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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:31 PM
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Reply to Senator Kerry
This is in reply to a campaign e-mail received this morning from Senator Kerry's Senate campaign.

Senator:

It would greatly help to end the war in Iraq, as well as prevent another unnecessary war in Iran or Syria, if you, as the titular head of the Democratic Party, were to persuade Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi to put the impeachment of Messrs. Buah and Cheney on the table where it belongs.

I am one of those grown tired of watching Bush, Cheney and Gonzales thumb their noses at Congressional committees. Impeachment and removal from office is the only thing they will respect, perhaps along with a platoon of Marines sent in to forcibly evict them from the White House or Justice Department after the vote is taken.

The war in Iraq will not end as long as the tyrants are in power. The excuses to take no action against them grew lame long ago. Boot them out on their ears.

Thank you.

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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:38 PM
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1. I'm so tired of getting emails from kerry asking for money to do
his job. At least that's what I get out of them. I keep feeling strongarmed by this entrenched establishment. Just DO something besides rubber stamping and enabling this criminal regime. IMPEACH the CHIMP
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:05 AM
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21. He's running in 2008 for his Senate seat. So it's money to continue doing his job
meanwhile, he's also pretty safe, so money he doesn't need, he will likely give to other candidates, just as he did in 2006.

So I consider it money pretty well spent.

He also sends emails to ellicit action, like the latest one where he's working with moveon.org

http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?rc=johnkerry&action_id=92

Like so.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:59 AM
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22. I have been impressed with his activism
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:42 PM
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2. Titular head of the Democratic Party?
Not in any sense. He's just the most recent presidential candidate of the party. Once that campaign ended, so did any kind of authority on his part.

He does seem to see himself as having a special status. I don't think the rest of the party agrees.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:47 PM
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5. Yes, that makes him the titular head of the party
He's been more effective in that role than most defeated presidential candidates, who usually just fade away.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:18 PM
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10. If he's the titular head, what's his title?
You're saying he's stayed visible and demonstrated some leadership. That's not the same thing as being the titular head.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:17 AM
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20. huhuhuh you said "titular"


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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:49 PM
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6. The "rest of the party" seems to disagree with Kerry on a number of things
Iraq, for instance.



I'll take the opinions and efforts of Kerry over any of them.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:43 PM
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3. Campaign for what, exactly?
Is he running for Seantor already? I must've missed that, and he's one of my Senators!

TC

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:50 PM
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7. Yes, his senate campaign
I don't know why I get message from his Senate campaign. This Californian can't afford to tell people in Massachusetts who their Senator ought to be.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 11:45 PM
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19. I'm in NC and I get regular e-mails from him....
I guess because I donated to him in '04 and worked for him. I ignore them...just got tired of it. Asking for money and to do this or that that I was already doing.

Thanks for writing him. I probably should answer one of those e-mails back that I get and prod him, too.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:44 PM
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4. Thank you, Jack Rabbit!
Kerry does have a great reply to buSHIT'S ramblings about "we shoulda stayed in Viet Nam", though!

"BOSTON – Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) today made the following statement in response to the speech today by President Bush to the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Kansas City, Missouri in which the President invoked comparisons to the Vietnam War to defend his war policy:


“Invoking the tragedy of Vietnam to defend the failed policy in Iraq is as irresponsible as it is ignorant of the realities of both of those wars,” Senator Kerry said. “Half of the soldiers whose names are on the Vietnam Memorial Wall died after the politicians knew our strategy would not work. The lesson is to change the strategy not just to change the rhetoric. We want democracy in Iraq, but Iraqis must want it as much as we do. Our brave soldiers can’t bring democracy to Iraq if Iraq’s leaders are unable or unwilling themselves to make the compromises that democracy requires. No American soldier should be sacrificed because Iraqi politicians refuse to resolve their sectarian and political differences.


“It is unfortunate that President Bush would want to invoke a false comparison of Vietnam to Iraq, but not surprising that he would oversimplify the differences and overlook the tragic similarities. As in Vietnam, we engaged militarily in Iraq based on official deception. As in Vietnam, more American soldiers are being sent to fight and die in a civil war we can’t stop and an insurgency we can’t bomb into submission. If the President wants to heed the lessons of Vietnam, he should change course and change course now.”


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1639933
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:11 PM
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8. End it in September
He's supporting MoveOn's national protests on August 28. Little Clarkie had a post up on it yesterday.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1636420

I swear I don't know what more the man can do to get the left to stop hating him.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:16 PM
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9. Who said I hated him?
All I said was that the war will continue as long as Bush and Cheney have power. That should by now be a self-evident truth.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:35 PM
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11. Kerry is supposed to solve every problem
But nobody is ever there to back him up while he's doing it. When he's trying to get health care for every child, people complained he wasn't getting health care to everybody. Now they see, when Bush doesn't even want to support the health care legislation already passed. He's been fought every step of the way on the war, and now he's supposed to switch focus to impeachment instead of staying focused on ending the war. It just goes on and on. He's one of the few consistent advocates we've got in the Senate, why hasn't that "End it in September" post got a hundred recommends? Oh, because it's Kerry, that's why.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:54 PM
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12. My point is . . .
. . . that focusing on impeachment is the only way to end the war. The road out of Iraq starts in the House Judiciary Committee and leads through a two-thirds vote in the Senate.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:57 PM
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15. So why lay it on Kerry?
Why don't you write any one of the other candidates running for President? How does it become his responsibility to lead the impeachment campaign as well as everything else he's trying to get done?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:14 PM
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16. Because there was an e-mail from him in my inbox this morning
The text of which is not irrelevant to the subject at hand. It talks about ending the war. It is linked on another post in this thread (your post no less).

I've already laid it on my Congressman (often), my two senators (less often, since impeachment begins in the House) and the Speaker (two or three times). So why not the most recent presidential nominee of the Democratic Party? Kerry, unlike some of the other defeated candidates in the past, hasn't just faded away. His voice still carries some weight.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:20 PM
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17. Well great
He's trying to stay focused on ending the war - while you're trying to gin up a mob to target him with all their anger on impeachment. I just don't get your thinking - but hey, knock yourself out. Just make sure to show up somewhere on August 28 - mkay???
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #16
24. Wait a minute. Please tell me you didn't write back to the bot
Did you reply to the email you were sent, or go looking for a contact address on his site?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:55 PM
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13. Excellent Letter Jack Rabbit
:hi:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:56 PM
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14. !!
:hi:
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 11:16 PM
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18. Kick it up, Jack!!!
Now is the time. Start by impeaching Cheney. The majority of Americans support Cheney's impeachment. There is NO QUESTION of "high crimes and misdemeanors."

Wake up America!:kick:

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 12:00 PM
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23. Good idea!
For every piece of correspondence that I get from the Democrats, I'm going to follow suit & reply with a letter of my own, using their own words to express how impeachment is desperately in order.

Good job!
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