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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:30 PM
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"Nightmarish political realities in Baghdad..." (Stop the madness: Get out of Iraq!)

U.S. officials rethink hopes for Iraq democracy

From Michael Ware and Thomas Evans
CNN


BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Nightmarish political realities in Baghdad are prompting American officials to curb their vision for democracy in Iraq. Instead, the officials now say they are willing to settle for a government that functions and can bring security.

But for the first time, exasperated front-line U.S. generals talk openly of non-democratic governmental alternatives, and while the two top U.S. officials in Iraq still talk about preserving the country's nascent democratic institutions, they say their ambitions aren't as "lofty" as they once had been.

"Democratic institutions are not necessarily the way ahead in the long-term future," said Brig. Gen. John "Mick" Bednarek, part of Task Force Lightning in Diyala province, one of the war's major battlegrounds.

The comments reflect a practicality common among Western diplomats and officials trying to win hearts and minds in the Middle East and other non-Western countries where democracy isn't a tradition.

The failure of Iraq to emerge from widespread instability is a bitter pill for the United States, which optimistically toppled the Saddam Hussein regime more than four years ago. Millions of Iraqis went to the polls to cast ballots, something that generated great promise for the establishment of a democratic system.

But Iraqi institutions, from the infrastructure to the national government, are widely regarded as ineffective in the fifth year of the war.

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Sectarian cleansing is pushing people into segregated enclaves, protected by Shiite or U.S.-backed Sunni militias, and spurring the flight of thousands to neighboring countries.

Thousands of innocents are dying violently every month in cities and villages across the country.

Iraqi government officials concede things aren't working, but they say that's because the United States doesn't allow Iraq to really control its own destiny.

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One senior U.S. official in Baghdad told CNN that "any country with 160,000 foreigners fighting for it sacrifices some sovereignty."

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The Pandora's box Bush opened in Iraq: civil wars!

Impeach!

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:34 PM
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1. But the surge is working!
Haven't you heard? I am beyond angry.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:37 PM
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2. I am not proud to be an American right now.
damn * and I hope there is dark place in the future for him.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:01 PM
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3. kicking
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