Bush Lies To VFW About Al-Qaeda Captures in Iraq

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Bush Lies About Al-Qaeda Captures in Iraq
By Spencer Ackerman - August 22, 2007, 12:14 PM

Some distortions are so massive and so deliberate as to constitute outright lies. See if you can spot the dishonesty in this line in President Bush's speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars' national convention today:

U.S. forces have killed or captured an average of more than 1,500 al Qaeda terrorists and other extremists every month since January.

That "and other extremists" line sure does a lot of work here. No order of battle for the insurgency is available, but all credible estimates peg al-Qaeda in Iraq as by far the smallest contingent. One rough assessment, cited byThe New York Times last month, put AQI at possessing perhaps 5,000 fighters. Yet Bush suggested this morning that the U.S. has captured as many as 12,000 members of AQI so far this year.

Since the surge began, the U.S. has had between 17,000 and 23,000 Iraqis in custody each month, according to the Brookings Institution's Iraq Index (pdf). Last month, Ned Parker of the Los Angeles Times reported that of the 19,000 detainees in U.S. custody in Iraq, only 135 were foreigners -- the most likely indicator of membership in al-Qaeda. Military and intelligence veterans of the Iraq war typically say that determining Iraqi membership in AQI is extraordinarily difficult, and not something that lends itself particularly well to flat, quantitative statements.

No wonder the president picked the artful qualifier "and other extremists" to lard his presentation of who the U.S. is capturing in Iraq. It's impossible to disprove the statement, since it conceals precisely how many of the 1,500 monthly captures are in fact AQI. But an inability to disprove a statement doesn't ever make that statement true -- rather, that makes it gibberish.

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1. Bush Speech

His speech is 'Fatally Flawed' :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hi:

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2. We are capturing or killing christians and republicans in Iraq??

and members of Al-Quaeda??

The VFW is a total fucking joke of an organization and a total fucking embarrassment to the men and women in uniform today.

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3. Like he lied in this campaign speeches before the 2004 election.

One of the "planted" vets at one of his VFW speeches. Planted speechifier...Mr. President, didn't you fly missions over Viet Nam to protect our country during the war?" Mr. Peeserdent "Yes I flew my bomber
in missions to protect this country". As we all know he never went to Viet Nam,,,he says yes he flew missions to protect this country. Of course he didn't say he flew in Viet Nam but he left the crowd with that impression.