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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:48 PM
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The 21st Century Sucks
Link to original: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020807R.shtml

The 21st Century Sucks
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Columnist

Thursday 08 February 2007

It took an astonishingly stupid bomb scare in my town last week to really make me feel old for the first time.

"Old" isn't the proper word, I guess, since I am only midway through my 30s. I live in Boston, temporary home to nearly one million students from September to June every year, and so I am surrounded by kids all the time. I used to teach high school English to roomfuls of teenagers. Neither of these things made me feel old. The now-infamous Lite-Brite Bomb Fiasco of 2007 that unspooled here last week didn't make me feel old either, so much as it made me feel out of touch, for the first time, with those who are ten or fifteen years younger than me.

The gulf between my feelings and thoughts that day, and the feelings and thoughts of the twenty-somethings I talked to about it afterward, could not have been wider. Not to put too fine a point on it, that whole thing scared the almighty cheese out of me. The reports started coming in around noon - "suspicious items" that had "wires" and "electronics," which were found strapped to critical infrastructure all over the city, according to the news media - and for a few hours, I entertained the possibility that my darkest fears were becoming a reality.

My fears were inspired by all the stuff I've been trying to telegraph to people for the last several years. This Iraq occupation, I've been arguing since the fall of 2002, will inspire more terrorism. A ten year old girl in Baghdad gets blown sideways out of her kitchen, a mother gets blasted in a sectarian street-battle in Fallujah, a father has menstrual blood smeared on his face in a cement cage in Abu Ghraib by leering US troops looking to humiliate those of his faith, a son gets shot by a US sniper in Najaf ... and the families of those people are going to pick up a gun and volunteer to die that they might kill.

Combine this manufacture of terrorists with the legal aftermath of 9/11, the evaporation of Constitutional protections put in place "for our safety," and the rancid motivations of those in power, and you have a recipe for catastrophe. The terrorists we are manufacturing in Iraq are not going to the beach, or heading off to a camping trip at the local KOA. Play the tape to the end, and one has to operate under the assumption that, sooner or later, they are going to show up here. If and when they do, they will not need to take down buildings to create mayhem.

A few hand grenades at a mall in Duluth, a car bomb in St. Louis, or a few bridges blown up in Boston, and that's the ball game. We will see a declaration of "Red Alert," which is martial law, the suspension of habeas corpus, the suspension of posse comitatus, and the end of the rule of Constitutional law in America. This great experiment in government of, by and for the people, with all its flaws and all its strengths, will be shelved, and a great light will be, perhaps forever, extinguished.

That is what I thought I was watching here in Boston last week. The places they were finding these items - a main railway bridge, an overpass on the city's main highway, the hospital a few scant blocks from my apartment - are precisely the kind of soft targets that, if destroyed, would create chaos. Attacking infrastructure is one of the oldest and most effective tactics of warfare, and here it was in my neighborhood, or so I feared. I thought I was watching the Last Day, and it sickened me in a place within that words cannot touch.

This was not, of course, the case. Once images of those stupid little cartoon things made it to television screens, I was able to relax. When it came out that the whole mess was an advertising campaign for a cartoon, I thought my brain was going to leap out of my skull. The rest of the country saw those things and had a hearty laugh at our expense, especially the twenty-somethings who recognized it immediately.

So, was my fear an over-reaction? It is easy to say so in hindsight. How can anyone think one of those Lite-Brite things was a bomb? Easy. You spend a few hours watching the TV news people natter about "wiring" and "electronics" and things strapped to bridges and hospitals, but you're not shown the actual items by those same news people. It was hours before I saw what they were talking about, and in that simple fact, we find one of the central afflictions of our wretched estate.

That whole thing last week was of the media, by the media and for the media. An advertising agency pimps a television show, and the resulting nonsense becomes fodder for the TV news shows. Like Tinkers to Evans to Chance, this was the perfect example of the media serving itself at the expense of the people. If they had shown us one of those LED boards, no one would have thought twice. It served the news media better, however, to bluster about suspicious items for hours. Better ratings, you see.

The event also exposed a dissonance in our collective thinking, especially among the aforementioned younger set. For them, and to use their favorite word, the 21st century absolutely sucks. A twenty-one year old today was seventeen years old when we invaded Iraq, fifteen years old when September 11th happened, and fourteen years old when the Supreme Court decided to take over the duties and responsibilities of electing our public officials. Since then, they have been subjected to bogus terror scare after bogus terror scare, to lies without count about threats beyond measure, to a war seemingly without end that serves only itself.

The cynicism that breeds because of this is central to that dissonance. On the one hand, it is accepted as axiomatic that we are manufacturing terrorism in Iraq. On the other hand, it is also axiomatic that these Bush people deliberately frighten people for purely political purposes, and so the threat of terrorism itself becomes just another bag of nonsense, a fear tactic to be dismissed out of hand. Only a sucker falls for that game, and what happened in Boston last week feeds that cynical dismissal.

These two ideas, while correct on their own, cannot exist together in the same space.

If we are manufacturing terrorism, then one of these days, the warning will be real. It is one of the most searing crimes committed by Bush and his ilk - and yes, to my mind, it is a crime - that so many people are motivated to stand against this war because it is dangerous for us all, but at the same time scoff at one of the most dangerous potential consequences of the war. Why should someone who graduated from high school in this climate, who has begun to come of age as the walls of the castle crumble, who has been subjected to media-driven terror and state-sponsored murder believe anything they are told?

I was reminded of the years I spent living in San Francisco. The threat of an earthquake was ever-present, but in no way dominated the attention of the citizenry. The threat occupied a corner of your mind; if it happened, you wouldn't be surprised, but if you walked around worried about it every second of the day, you'd go mad. So you didn't worry about it, but you always breathed a little easier once you drove off the Bay Bridge. It was what it was.

Today, it is what it is. Terrorism exists, and the threat of it has been made all the more pressing by the actions of this government. I thought I was watching the consequences of their activities arrive here last week, and was shaken by it. It was, to me, a dry run for the worst day ever. In the end, however, the worst part came later. It came when I heard people making fun of the threat.

Actions have consequences. What the Bush administration is doing in Iraq makes us far less safe, both over there and over here. The fact that they have so abused the sensibilities of the populace with their fear-mongering does not change this fact. If this situation in Iraq is allowed to burn on, or if we are foolish enough to attack Iran, the warnings we in Boston went through last week may well become commonplace all across the country.

Such is the way of things in the 21st century. We curse the fear while whistling past the graveyard. It sucks out loud.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:06 PM
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1. Agreed. Sure hope the 22nd Century is better.
Looking forward to it.
:toast:
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:29 PM
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2.  The 21st century started off with a jolt of fear .
It began with the fear of mass computer crashes .

I am far past my 30's , I do believe even advertizing stunts such as cartoon adds at this point in time are nothing to joke about . Have I lost my sense of humor , perhaps , or is it simply a heightened sense of over reaction .

The added tension we don't need , many of us are already in a state of under-lying panic due to these wars and the threat of attacking Iran .

This is not on the surface anymore than the chance of an earthquake in the next few minutes .

I experience two earthquakes in LA , last one in 1994 , this was scary enough along with the constant after shocks as you could hear a rolling thunder approaching from the west as the shock wave reached my apartment and the building swayed while bringing me to my target heart rate .

I do wonder now after all the fear built up since 9/11 if I will survive the shock of a real terrorist attack since many years have passed of physical wear and tear .
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:32 PM
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3. Consider this, Will: THESE are the "Good Old Days" NOW.
Our descendants will almost certainly view us with a curious mixture of envy at the largesse of our wealth and disgust at how we had everything and pissed it away, including their future.

Is there a chance this will come to pass? Maybe. Probably. No matter how our re-fighting WWII with the Busheviks playing the Nazi role, turns out, the environemnt steamrollers on.

As a molecular biologist, I feel compelled to point out that the human population curve to this point IDENTICALLY mimics the growth of microorganisms on a petrie dish.

Could it be that simple. After all, from space, is not the Earth a closed-system petrie dish and from that same vantage, are human beings not the wildly overpopulating (and drowning in our own excrement) microorganisms in said petrie dish, metaphorically speaking.

Human history up until 1800 was Lag Phase. From then until now or maybe a little longer is Log Phase. When the oil starts to run out, Stationary Phase will have begun. Then, Death Phase, which is what happens to a closed-system petrie dish full of e.coli when the excrement has swamped the dish through overpopulation.

http://www.bact.wisc.edu/Microtextbook/index.php?module=Book&func=displayarticle&art_id=112

As such, I believe there is a strong chance that THESE are the Good Old days.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:59 PM
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8. Tom Paine conversing with William Pitt...
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was...
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:43 PM
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18. I have a gut feeling that you're right. n/t
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:29 PM
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23. Wow. And I thought I was bummed after reading Will's piece
We're all microrganisms drowning in shit? Sounds about right.

:smoke:
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:45 PM
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28. That's EXACTLY what I tell my spouse every day. "These are the good old days" and we will look back
on them fondly.

Whenever any of us complains about how screwed up things are, we invariably say this out loud.

If one considers the fact that every tiny system is a microcosm of the others, it's easy to see how every time we destroy one of them, we are destroying ourselves. We cannot separate ourselves from any of those other systems -- they touch us in ways unseen to most.

That of course includes other societies, other nations.

Other lakes, other streams, other air.

Where it's most urgently clear is in our politics and in practices which are not sustainable such as the widespread use of weapons and war to solve problems --the same with chemicals, synthetic fertilizers, the outrageous practice of re-cycling haz waste into products (and fertilizers)....

These are just a few of the "efficient" (industrial) methods we've employed to maintain "our way of life" (I put it in quotes because it sure as hell is not a way of LIFE).

These industrial "solutions" are destructive to the health and well-being of all of life on this planet, including humans.

If only we would "get" it.

Maybe the end-of-timers do "get" it.

So sad. The signs of unsustainability are all around us. It's tragic --the pattern suggests that we're moving towards autolysis.

Unless we stop all this destructiveness very soon.

Maybe Al Gore will run for president. Sometimes I think the guy might just understand this kind of thinking.

Boy will the end-of-timer-left-behinders be SURPRISED when they find themselves here with the rest of us rotting in our own mess.

Think I'll go have some chocolate now.

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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:41 PM
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45. Overshoot
The bloom in the petrie dish. Seems inevitable.
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Altean Wanderer Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 06:45 PM
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48. Excellent Post! Well said. I too think ...
a die-off of the human population is likely by mid-century. All the trends are pointing to that. As Matt Savinar at http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net wonders, are we 'smarter than a bunch of yeast' in a petri dish? Perhaps not.

As I like to say a lot nowadays, "Life was simpler in the Cambrian period"!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 08:00 AM
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49. I hope that does not turn out to be the case.
But I also agree it is very possible the such will be the case.

Two possibilities:

a) die-off
b) the combination of multiple strategies Gore lays out and perhaps the discovery of mass-producable, clean-burning fusion energy turns the tide

b is still possible, even if it is far from being the most likely scenario.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:38 PM
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4. K & R
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:40 PM
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5. Not one mention of snickers, anna nicole, or edwards' house
This thread will sink so low it will need Jacques Cousteau to bring it up ;)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:45 PM
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6. Lower than whale shit
Alas. :P
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:04 PM
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9. Here he is now, radioing for a deep sea sub:
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demrabble Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:19 PM
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14. You Failed
You failed to mention the NASA 3-way.

Or diapers.

How soon we forget.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:21 PM
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15. indeed! We live in a post nasa diaper era now :) (nt)
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:23 PM
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22. He also forgot to tell us to go Fuck Ourselves for not staying focused on his topic
There's a lot that around too.

Yes, Will, it all sucks. No wonder you have a bar! :toast:
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:50 PM
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29. He has a bar?
Then what's he complaining about?

;-)
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:32 AM
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41. The bar has him
Haven't you noticed a particular location in his essays mentioned? I may be crazy but I believe there may be a special mug and stool involved? With the burden of too much information Will can swim in Scotch if he wants if you ask me. Clearly the words still come. :hi:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:41 PM
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43. They don't serve scotch
Only beer and wine...and beer. :)
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 06:36 PM
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47. Then do the backstroke in some Sam Adams
But then again that would be a waste. Try some crappy light beer for that. :D
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:48 AM
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33. Go fuck yourself.
Better? ;)
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:29 AM
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40. I am now complete
:P
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:18 PM
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20. Whose house?
:rofl:
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:49 PM
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7. Problem, Reaction, Solution
Problem=Terror
Reaction=Fear
Solution=NWO Police State.

Proofs in the pudding
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:17 PM
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10. Been trying ...
to tell you that...but one doesn't often wake up until an event hits one in the groin..and one has to see that you aren't forever what you are at just "turned 30."

Many "dust ups" between us...through the years...but in many ways we were always on the same page about a few issues...

and...on this post.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:18 PM
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11. "far less safe" and in fact "perpetuating (even further) retributions"
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 07:27 PM by stellanoir
The absense of true diplomacy has been astounding. The shadow projection had been utterly mind numbing.

I spoke with a former ambassador to the Mideast who was a former Repuplican and is now an Independant in the summer of '04.

He said, "His life's work had been ruined."

I felt sad for him.

Let's consider fighting in non violent ways to make it better. ASAP with our hearts and minds.

Let us have a modicum of hope in this stil; new millennium.

It's may perhaps just be transitional now. But it's so ugly.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:22 PM
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21. Hard to fight in nonviolent ways when your friend and neighbor
gets to go back to Fallujah next week.

He got back just before the holidays, but has "special knowledge".

So he goes.

Again.

He has a beautiful, intelligent wife and 2 lovely kids. And 2 dogs and 1 cat.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:20 PM
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27. that is totally tragic really
I wish him well and my heart aches for his family.

this is such shit.
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:06 PM
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30. What does it mean anyway to become more "civilized"? To develop the human potential?
Right now we're regressing and so your friend's good work is being trashed.

I hope we were meant to be more than this.

To me it seems as if the war mongers and corporate profiteers are ruining our chances for a better world.

Diplomacy is part of the answer. With diplomacy we develop and practice complex ways of behaving and communicating that consider each country's needs, culture and political environments.

That same spirit of cooperation and care would also have to be instituted in other areas of our lives.

Like with our own bodies and the environment.

We are going to have to separate ourselves from war-like technologies as the "first-line" industrialized solutions to all of our problems.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:43 PM
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31. I can't disagree with you at all.
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 11:48 PM by stellanoir
Except to take issue with the gentleman in question, being a spurious acquintance, not a friend.

Perhaps we can agree. That REAL diplomacy is the answer. This "misadministration" is totally incpable of anything but shadow projection. "THEY ARE EVIL" is so-o-o tiresome and utterluy stupid. Most don't want to kill. Most just want to live their lives happily. That is all.

Hurumphhhh.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:19 PM
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12. It sure has. For me, anyway, personally.
Lost more than I care to count and got sick along the way.

It has totally sucked.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:19 PM
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13. The center of gravity has shifted.
I've had this conversation with several friends since I first felt what
I call, "the shift."
That was around 1998.
Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined
where that initial intuition, or sense of dramatic change,
was heading.

Stop the world, I wanna get off.

BHN
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:25 PM
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16. When I graduated from high school in 1958, I had such hopes.
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 07:27 PM by Cleita
I wondered if I would live long enough to bring in the millenium. The Russians had launched Sputnik and I knew the USA would not be far behind. The space race in subsequent decades was so much better than the arms race had been in acquiring nukes in the decades after WWII. There was hope.

Stanley Kubrick brought out his movie, "2001, A Space Odyssey" in the late sixties and although fantasy, still showed what was possible for the future. There could be starships, space stations and moon stations. The western powers, led by the USA, and Russia would collaborate on these projects to explore our solar system. There could finally be a common ground for peace.

Things did not work out the way many of us expected we would enter the next century. It has been one giant disappointment in spite of what we did accomplish.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:09 AM
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38. Those were the Empire's glory days.

I'm about a decade behind you, but those were still the glory days.

There was an optimism in those days that understandably isn't there any more. And hasn't been for a long, long time.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:42 PM
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17. Yep. My son is 22 years, and he is so cynical

about this misAdministration, this government, terrorism and the wars that it makes me seem like I'm singing America the Beautiful during my rants.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:08 PM
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19. Will, you still write brilliantly - you went from an....
an obsure (yeah, right) teacher with a fantasic mom, into a best-selling author who writes with intelligence, backed by solid research, compassion and..... it ain't hard to read, neither, even for us rubes.............

and you skewer the fuck out of anyone you go after. As my daughter would say...KEWL (yeah, THAT generation)

I'm still scared, but if I've got people like you out there fighting on my side, I am much less scared. If I can see the great photos in the Photo Contest threads, the cartoons in the Cartoon threads, and some of the idiocy in the Lounge, I know - not think, KNOW - that we will prevail.

This post is, as usual, bookmarked, kicked and recommended. Su servu.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:30 PM
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24. Yes it do...
...sigh. :hug:
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:36 PM
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25. .
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:45 PM
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26. I'm afraid I don't get it.
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 09:47 PM by sleebarker
Of course, since he said he was in his mid 30s and the divide started at the ten year gap and I'm 26, I should be within his range.

I expected something like "Yep, all them people younger than me were either scared witless and wanted to bomb them some brown people or they didn't care at all 'cuz they was playing them video games. It's only us old baby boomers who are liberal and intelligent and caring and everything good.", but then that's what I've been led to believe is coming whenever someone starts off a rant about a younger age group. (And yes, I realize he's not a boomer.)

But this ended up not being that sort of thing and I was delightfully surprised, but still, he never went into detail on what was different between his viewpoint and the viewpoint of younger people. I was hoping for at least a quote from one of these younger people explaining their viewpoint.

I don't know - it's hard to judge without having been in the situation. My first thought is that maybe the people who didn't take it seriously had news sources other than the propaganda box or that maybe there was some clue that tipped off people who knew about the show or viral marketing. Or maybe, yeah, some people just don't believe any fear-mongering. I'm not so sure that would be a generational thing, though.

Kudos to the author for not assuming that younger people are all either neoconservative Republicans of the worst kind or totally indifferent to anything outside cell phones and shopping malls.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:47 AM
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32. I have come to realize
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 02:48 AM by WilliamPitt
that my reaction to the whole thing was definitely on the extreme side, compared not only to reactions here on DU and elsewhere in the country, but also to a lot of people around here. Folks in Boston were pissed, sure, but no one else I talked to had the same visceral jolt I did.

And I think it's because I have spent pretty much every day since all this started stewing over this shit, trying to stop the war because I fear the consequences of it, and because I am batshit-crazy in love with our Constitutional system, warts and flaws and all. If and when we lose it because of this shit, the consequences will be felt for ten generations.

But that's just me.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 08:24 AM
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37. there is nothing wrong with...
being "batshit-crazy in love with our Constitutional system". Anyone around here who isn't is probably in the wrong place.

In your shoes I have no doubt I would have reacted the same way. And like you, I'm scared to death of the day it happens for real.

But mostly I just thought this deserved a :kick:

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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:33 AM
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34. I Agree. It's Just Too Absurd. Let's Talk About Hair Instead.
The "perps" definitely saw the absurdity of the fear mongering.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 04:27 AM
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35. freedom's just another word for 'nothing left to lose'...
cry wolf enough and eventually nothing has meaning anymore. and that's when we are truly vulnerable. but if you find that just about everything was something that someone cried wolf about, then you find through the deep cynicism that you are truly free -- because there's nothing left to lose.

at this point, perhaps it's because i lived in saudi arabia, or because i lived in san francisco so long, or i'm a child of the cold war during the warming, or hijackings, terrorism, etc. there is no real fear of death anymore. it just is, as i am, and it will happen when it does. that's it. no more, no less. the emotional investment in the outcome seems to be the divide. i believe, being younger, that our cynicism derives for we believe the emotional investment must be made in the action, not the result. but since we find so much that wants perpetuation of the hysteria and lies, we find it easier to disengage and watch. we are more free to receive the outcome. and in reverse, we are more disappointed by the insincerity during the act.

fascinatingly, i have noted that as the consciousness of mortality seeps in, usually around one's 30s, a strange phenomenon occurs. a shift from investment in the act turns towards outcome. i guess you could say this is where some said idealism dies. or where deals with the devil don't seem so bad. death becomes real, perhaps; or at least a very real impediment to the rest of the things you wan to accomplish in life. so instead of numb cynicism due to those who act out of hypocrisy, we see fear followed by exhaustion due to those who stifle results. this realization can come from 2 different angles, such as truly keeping us safe. one sees the insincerity in the act and instinctually feels the weight because failure is known to be the result. one can see the failed result, and after feeling played emotionally, feel the weight of being manipulated. perhaps a concrete aspect of feeling old is within here...
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 05:05 AM
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36. Thanks for putting this out there.
It echoes my sentiments about the Times We Live In very well although my triggers are slightly different living in Europe.

But the basis of the problems of conflicting interests and conflicting ways of dealing with it all is the same IMO.

Real diplomacy would be the only answer out of this mess, but that is so sorely missing in our world.

DemEx
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:11 AM
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39. if you were gay most centuries would have sucked for you.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:22 PM
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42. I'm way older than you, but I can tell you this
I would have reacted the same way as you did had I been in Boston, or had my daughter still been living there. Thankfully I knew nothing about it until it was over. My youngest brother lives there, though not in the city, with his wife and baby, and I would have been a wreck if I'd known.

I take almost nothing at face value anymore. I don't live in fear, but I am always suspicious. Things that would once have seemed innocuous can now seem dangerous, and there is a certain mistrust I have that I didn't have when I was younger. I don't blame 9/11, I blame this administration and the fear they've purposely created.

As much as I try not to live in fear, and I really don't - there is the reality that we are creating more and more terrorists, and people who hate Americans, by the hour. A "little" thing like what happened in Boston would have scared the shit out of me. Maybe if I spent less time on DU, or reading about Iraq, or this administration, I wouldn't feel that way, but I KNOW what we're creating, and I know how unprotected we really are.

I would probably always assume the worst in any situation like the one in Boston, until proven otherwise.



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BluePatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:13 PM
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44. K&R
My comment:

9/11 happened my freshman year of college. I started asking questions. I found DU and lurked. I took part in anti-war protests on campus. Registered voters for the Young Dems in 2004. Stayed up late in November munching on fries with Heinz ketchup, and threw up my hands in despair. When I graduated, my first-temp-clerk-job was billing and record-keeping on an Iraqi reconstruction project, essentially scrubbing things for auditors. I saved a few interesting items. The secretary's nephew died in Iraq. My aunt's brother was just deployed. The file clerk, an expat of Equitorial Guinea, told us she was pregnant with her third child today. Her husband left two months ago to work a contract somewhere in Iraq, security maybe, who knows.

I'm 23 and I will admit to whistling past the graveyard. It's our generation's survival mechanism.

We whistle past the graveyard because we're so fatalist. We don't curse the fear, we live it, have been born to it. On some level we know that the world the grown-ups have left us won't survive; it will be "reset" by bioterrorism/nukes/global warming/peak oil/an economic crash. We just try to enjoy the time we have left and raise hell and make fun of what we can. Sorry if we're brats while we're at it. (Some of us actually bother to work for change, too, although it can seem at times increasingly hopeless.)
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:48 PM
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46. Mr Pitt. I am 36. I am not old in any way. I believe that 50 is the new 30.
You and I are from the same generation. Surely you remember the gold rush in the 80's . My parents were buying gold because of the eminent collapse of the dollar. Yours probably were too. Remember the rapture? I sure do. If you do just a little research you'll see that freepers were wailing about the end of America and the whole constitutional crisis around Bill Clinton. Much the way we are upset about W. I'm not equating the two, W is a war criminal, and should spend the rest of his miserable life at The Hague. Anybody with two brain cells to rub together can see that our country is not well. It needs strong medicine, and fast. But, we have been here before. And we will be here again. We need to fight to correct the wrongs in our society. But there is no need to fear "THE END" anytime soon. Yeah, some fruitcake with hand grenades at a mall would really srew some shit up. But it wouldn't be the end. I wouldn't let it. I will fight. I know plenty of other people who believe in our country to not let some peoples fear dominate our lives. So, keep up the good fight. But don't let their fear tactics get you.
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