Congratulations DU'rs

[mitchtv]

I nominate DU for the Phil Angelides Award for Democratic Destruction by Democrats. You are all doing a wonderful joc of squabbling and trashing each others candidate. The Republcans' job is is half done. they will be able to copy verbatim most of what is said here by all. What I see is a well of support for Dems with dozens of DU'rs taking a dump in that well. Now instead of1 year of Pukes bashing my party's candidates, we have a tag team/ relay trashing event. Meanwhile the Puke candidates skate free. DISGUSTING:mad: :grr: :banghead: :rant: :hide:

[Robbien]

1. Same ole. Same ole

If it upsets you, you have a hide thread button just the same as the rest of us.

[redqueen]

2. The puke candidates skate free?

In the M$M, you mean?

[mitchtv]

7. Here

one expects them to skate in the media. Buzz has to be created

[redqueen]

23. Yeah... I completely disagree.

I don't know how you can miss all the threads mocking / documenting the crimes & issues with those sorry exuses for candidates.

I guess it's all about perspective, though.

[mitchtv]

24. there are plenty to be sure

but in comparison?

[redqueen]

26. Not even close. n/t

[Lex]

3. Generalize much?

nt

[Double T]

4. YOU better duck and here's another glass of the DLC fool-aid.......

to quench your thirst!!!!!:beer:

[rucky]

5. Let's pick one candidate we can all back.

We'll decide which one by running a series of campaigns, debates and elections from each state. We could call it a primary! And then we can hold a big convention to announce the winner - then we have our one candidate we can all back. Let's call him/her the "nominee"

How does that sound?

[Boojatta]

11. It's funny because it's true.

:-)

[Breeze54]

14. Brilliant idea! Why didn't I think of that?

:spray:

:rofl:

[Warpy]

6. If you want people who march in lock step and never think

for themselves, join the GOP.

[mitchtv]

8. It is preferable to advocate for a candidate

than trash another Democrat

[BlooInBloo]

12. Not to DUers it's not....

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_12_17_atrios_archive.html#116645724148144035

Some Notes on Primary Season

1) Your favorite candidate is the only one who can win.

2) Your favorite candidate is the only one who will truly get behind a progressive agenda.

3) Other candidates are part of some nefarious conspiracy to destroy your candidate.

4) Supporters of other candidates are motivated by groupthink.

5) Supporters of other candidates are operating in bad faith and arguing dishonestly.

6) "Powerful" bloggers shouldn't be "biased."

7) Primary season is the silliest season of all.

[Adsos Letter]

15. so...what you are suggesting is...

...that we argue our choice based on their merits rather than by trashing/criticizing the ones we don't choose?

In America?...

:D

[mitchtv]

31. Pardon me

How stupid of me:dunce:

[Adsos Letter]

34. No...not stupid at all...

...but the concept of trashing opponents (and the search for a candidate is a contest) is deeply ingrained in American political discourse...since before we became a nation...

:hi:

[Boojatta]

18. That's rather utopian, isn't it?

Would you be satisfied if every bit of trashing of a Democratic candidate were accompanied by some trashing of one or more Republicans? Think of it as a small tax (in effort, not money) to be paid by those who wish to trash a Democratic candidate.

[mitchtv]

21. I think that's a novel and good idea

I got a whole lot of tax to pay now 'cause. I wanna trash _____ or ____!

[Warpy]

30. All candidates can benefit from critiques

and that is different from trashing them, although their supporters generally fail to see the difference.

Once again, the Democratic Party isn't a party for the uncritical and those who want to think they're above criticism.

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

9. Isn't this squabbling the political process?

I think you might need to thicken that skin, Mitch. This is how it has always been done, warts and all.

Nobody likes to see "their" candidate denigrated or marginalized, but this is an ideas forum (ok, you're right, more often than not it's a quick zinger forum) where folks who are already comfortable with their choices can see how others think and feel.

Really, do you think it's any different over on the boards at Repug Underground.com?

[mitchtv]

17. they are all my candidates

I just think one can criticize without all the name calling and mean spiritedness. By the time this is over either you don't know what to believe, or you hate them all, generally the latter.

[screembloodymurder]

10. GTFO, now we can't debate about our own primary?

Silence, mitchtv will decide when we can speak.

[mitchtv]

27. debate is one thing

Name calling hardly qualifies

[TahitiNut]

13. Uh-huh. People should ONLY discuss what they fully AGREE on ...

... and God forbid that they should ever discuss that on which there's disagreement.

Tell me ... where does it work that way other than in some Kool-Aid cult? (No wonder they off themselves.)

:eyes:

[redqueen]

25. Don't you know? Criticism = trashing.

I'm sure most of the criticism about Hillary is about nonsense like her hair or the way she dresses, right?

Right?

:eyes:

[TahitiNut]

29. ... or how short she is or how her spouse is taller. Yup.

:rofl:

[LSK]

16. ummmm

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1522812&mesg_id=1522812

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1022441

I try....

:shrug:

[mitchtv]

28. ON that

We need more

[Turbineguy]

19. Well on the other hand

there are 106 thousand DU'ers. There's a lot more than that who watch Fox News.

I think trashing repubs is better and easier too, but sex threads aren't allowed. That really cuts down on the material one can post.

[datadiva]

20. Thats democracy in action

We at least discuss the pros and cons of candidates. Free speach and all that. I know, I know, really old fashioned of us, isn't it? But, I'll bet ya when the final votes are cast we will vote as a block to assure a democratic candidate.

[mitchtv]

22. We wish

.

[lonestarnot]

32. Hiding is the right icon there dudie.

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[lonestarnot]

35. LOL

[L. Coyote]

36. What candidates? Who is paying attention to that stuff? WAY too early still!

However, there's plenty of Dem bashing on DU.

I hope everyone realizes, for each Dem bash on DU, you are required to bash Rs twice on an R forum. :rofl:

[sendero]

37. When Democrats...

.... enable the suckass actions of Bush and his minions at every turn, who needs them.

Dems deserve the trashing they are getting, the Dem leadership in congress has led them to a NEW LOW RATING among the PUBLIC.

If you don't like the criticism they are getting here, tough fucking shit.