History will judge Rove a colossal failure

[kpete]

THE END OF ROVE....Obviously everyone already knows this, but in case you either just woke up (like me) or spent the morning on Mars, Karl Rove is planning to leave the White House.

Instant analysis: It doesn't really matter. History will judge Rove a colossal failure, a man who never understood how to govern and, for all his immense knowledge of polls and politics, never really understood the times he lived in. It was 9/11 that both made and broke the Bush presidency, not some kind of mystical McKinley-esque realignment. Rove was blind to that, and blind to the way Bush should have governed after 9/11. His one-track mind, in which every problem is solved by wielding the biggest, nastiest partisan club you can lift, just couldn't adapt. It's fitting that he insisted on making even his final act as calculatedly partisan as he could, announcing his resignation not through the White House press office, but in an interview with the editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page. Sic transit, Karl.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_08/011863.php

[DS1]

1. Is this guy for real?

Karl Rove got the biggest dipshit in Texas the Governorship over Ann Richards, and then the Presidency.

The man pulled off a miracle. Twice. Three times even. Just getting Bush more than 10% was a herculean effort.


It's Bush who is the colossal failure, and that's not Rove's fault

[pearl]

4. He is filth

he is scum. Everything he supposedly accomplished was with vicious illegal tactics.

[malaise]

7. Rove is a criminal genius

but criminals should be imprisoned not praised.

[edhopper]

8. Lost in 2000

Lost in 2004 (Ohio vote fraud).
Lost to big in 2006 to steal it.

[DS1]

16. Got close enough

and propping that clown up to 'close enough to make it look real' is still a feat.

[blm]

12. They had to STEAL 2000 and 04 thru massive election fraud and controlling most

of the corporate media through their fascist allies helped quite a bit the last 10 years, wouldn't you say?

If Rove was a REAL genius, they wouldn't have HAD to lie, cheat and steal to gain and maintain power.

Their REAL genius was in co-opting some opportunistic Democrats to spin those Rovian thefts only against Gore and Kerry, as they tried in 2006 to do against Dean. Except more Democrats woke up to that game by then.

[BurtWorm]

2. I think this is exactly right.

There was only one moment when Rove's reputation as a genius was matched by something that might be called a success for him, and that was the 2002 midterms.

But even then he was lucky that the Dems had their heads up their asses and didn't have the sense to do what was right rather than what they thought would be perceived as right.

[edhopper]

13. The entire success

in the 2002 elections in the House was due to Texas redistricting.
Not Repug gaines over Dems.

[TwilightZone]

3. He got a mental incompetent "elected" president twice.

That is no small task. He got one of the dumbest politicians in history elected POTUS twice.

I don't see how that could possibly be considered a failure. His "failure" will be felt for decades.

[pearl]

5. Just shut up

No Rove fans here.

[TwilightZone]

9. I'm not a Rove fan, not in the least. I am, however, a realist.

If you can provide another explanation as to how a complete idiot became president, I'm all ears.

Bush shouldn't be running a McDonalds, much less the country. If it wasn't Rove, then what was it?

[Captain Hilts]

6. Correct. Rove's no failure. nt

[jeff30997]

10. I agree.

He could have got a ham sandwich elected too.

[nini]

14. If you counting stealing as winning then ok

Personally, I think he is an unethical treasonous piece of shit who steals not wins.

[TwilightZone]

15. Hence, the quotes around "elected"

eom

[nini]

21. yes.. I understood

and agree with you on the 'elected' part. However, in my eyes cheating and lying does not make one a success either.

He is neither a failure or success - he is a treasonous bastard.

[mmonk]

11. Rove a failure?

He got the worst presidency to last two terms. He changes constitutions. A failure? He is one of America's most successful domestic enemies with legions of hillbilly and corporate followers from my purple hillbilly state and all across redneck nation and in many churches.

[spanone]

17. i don't think we have to wait for 'history'

[cobalt1999]

18. Rove's job wasn't to govern.

Rove's mission was to get Bush elected twice. That is not a small task given what he had to work with. Frankly, his mission was accomplished. The result was a failure for the nation, but a personal success for Rove.

[NeedleCast]

19. Failure at what?

Election fraud or not, G-Dubs got eight years to screw things up, and that's not counting his win in Texas over a fairly popular Ann Richards. Rove is scum of the earth, but as far as doing his job, which was getting his candidate elected, he came through with flying colors. Rove's job wasn't to govern - he was never elected to any position - it was to get Bush elected. I think the thing is, he has a VERY GOOD understanding of the times he lives in and just how to manipulate it. Without Rove, Bush would have been a bad memory we were all putting behind us right now instead of POTUS.

[Bake]

20. Those who think Rove is a genius also think Barry Bonds is a great slugger.

They're both cheaters, that's all.

Rove is no more than this generation's Lee Atwater, minus the deathbed conversion. A dirty trickster. A cockroach. A criminal. That's how he'll be remembered. Not as the Boy Genius.

Bake