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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:56 AM
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Lest We Forget: ROVE IS NOT A GENIUS!!! (Repost)
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 11:58 AM by Beetwasher
It needs repeating over and over. Rove is NOT a genius, he's a thug. There's nothing brilliant about him. Do not lionize him, do not fear him, do not respect him. I would also like to add that after the '06 fiasco for Repubs, I will be surprised if Rove finds additional work w/ a campaign. Rove too is now a defective product. He's supposed "genius" is now laid bare for all to see, IOW, it never was. Here's a repost:

W Is A Defective Product and Rove Is A Moron

This is a repost, but it seemed appropriate in light of the debate and the WP article about the dissarray in Buscho. world. People have been writing threads as well suggesting that this is some kind of set up to lower expectations or "rope a dope". It's not. This is Bush's astounding incompetence coming to light.


Remember when you were a kid and some new toy would come along and the commercials for it were plastered all over the Saturday morning cartoons and before you knew it everyone you knew had one and of course, you had to get one too? It looked so great in the commercial, shiny and fun and promising endless enjoyment. I'm sure it happened numerous times during your childhood. Only, you get the toy and it's not nearly as fun as it looked and it breaks after using it a couple of times. The dissapointment and resentment would well up every time you saw the commercial after that. You knew the truth now and no amount of marketing would ever get you to buy another one of those toys. Maybe they'd sucker you in again for a NEW product, but that toy? History.

Bush is that toy. He was sold to the American people through a marketing and propoganda campaign of epic proportions. 9/11 didn't change Bush, it changed the way the country saw him. The country desperately needed a leader and they projected everything they thought a leader should be into Bush. Unfortunately for Bush and his bosses, they picked a defective product to foist on the American people.

The lustre has worn off and no amount of PR or marketing or propoganda can bring the people back to once again accept what they now know is a defective product. Bush's neocon bosses might have actually been able to pull off their complete seizure of the country if they had picked a different puppet. Someone who had at least a modicum of competence. Bush is not that puppet. He has neither the competence, the charisma or the intelligence. He's lazy, incurious, dull-witted, boorish, obnoxious and astoundingly arrogant. He's defective through and through right down to the very core of his essence and no amount of propoganda or PR will make people believe otherwise now.

And in addition, Rove, who one can say is the puppet master, is not all he's cracked up to be. I've never shared the opinion of many that Rove is brilliant. I've always thought he was a low-brow, ham fisted goon with a few obvious moves: Massive full frontal attack, or backstab and bait and switch. He's over rated.

Always remember, he didn't get the Chimp in by WINNING the election. If he could have done it that way, with smarts and finesse, I would say it was brilliant. To actually successfully sell a defective product takes brilliance. His tactics however, were ruthless thuggery and threats of violence and complete reliance on the Supreme Court. Nothing brilliant there. The Chimps approval ratings skyrocketed because of 9/11, not Rove's brilliance. A brilliant Political strategist would have been able to sustain those numbers. Rove is unable to do that and has NEVER been able to do that. He's a moron and he sucks at his job. He doesn't understand subtlety or nuance or the big picture. He's neither the intellect, the insight or the instincts of a brilliant person. What he does have is vicious ruthlessness in abundance and a propensity to take big risks. That's not brilliant, as a matter of fact, with no sense of moderation, it's quite stupid.

There's no marketing tactic, no amount of propoganda, no selling this defective product anymore. The best they can hope for is another anemic, short-lived blip in the polls as a result of some stunt, like capturing Bin Laden. This ride is over.

Keep in mind, I'm not claiming they won't "win" the next election, they very well might, but it won't be because they get the most votes.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Beetwasher/3
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:58 AM
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1. You are 100% correct if a democrat had pulled the dirty deceitful tricks
that rove had done the republicans would have hounded him to death. Republicans praise slime that's why they think rove is a genius. He probably wore the Nazi handbook out referring to it so often.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:16 PM
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22. I recently read "Means of Ascent" about LBJ, and the 2000 election was a copy of
LBJ's Senate race in the 1948 Senate race in Texas.

Rover learned how to do this by following what the Texas Democrats did in the 1940's and 1950's.

It's uncanny how close the parallel is, including the refusal/failure to count or recount some of the ballots.

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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:59 AM
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2. My sentiments exactly. Many people suffer from Rove Syndrome.
Nothing happens in Washington without the "evil mastermind" having a stake in it.
Give me a break.

K&R
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:08 PM
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4. It's that pesky liberal media that can't help itself by proclaiming
him genius status. Bush has really lowered the standards that this corrupt turd blossom is now a genius in the minds of the media. And i've given up that Democratic leadership will try to bring all these murderers and corrupt thugs down. So the media can just continue the charade.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:05 PM
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3. The media and Dem leaders played it differently - Rove was GREAT and Bush was
a great campaigner. BushInc did not have to steal that election, and the corporate media protecting Bush was not a problem, and neither was it a problem that all the best known Democrats (Clintons and Lieberman) supported Bush on his terrorism and Iraq war policies from 2001-2006.

No - none of those things mattered - Carville got to speak for the entire Dem party when he declared Rove the best in the game.

Nope - they didn't lie, cheat, steal or have any Democrats backstabbing the 2000 and 2004 nominees. Gore and Kerry were really, really bad.

and

Rove was just the best - Carville told us so.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:30 PM
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13. Thanks for this post, it's very enlightening
What happened to the cajun, Carville? He used to be a Liberal Democrat. I believe he's "pussy-whipped"
by his wife, Mary Matlin. How foolish of me to believe in him at one time. He's stupid!

Everytime the Democrats have given George Bush a wink on everything he demands, I've become less and less confident in my chosen Political party. Were they that afraid of Carl Rove? Apparently so.
:mad: :crazy: :spank:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:53 PM
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17. That standard was set in the 80s by Lee Hamilton and again in the 90s
by a Dem administration - though many Democrats would prefer we pretend otherwise, there are other Democrats who prefer our party wake up and STOP protecting the Bushes.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:17 PM
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23. Do you mean Lee Atwater?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:06 PM
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27. No - Lee HAMILTON actively protected Poppy Bush in the 80s.
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 02:07 PM by blm
Lee Atwater would have been just another dirty player if Hamilton hadn't been actively blocking for Reagan and Poppy when they were under investigation. It was only a handful of dogged Democrats in the senate and congress that kept the pressure up on Poppy enough to weaken him by the 1992 election.

Then what happened? It's at the link in the post above.

But, since you mentioned Lee Atwater, I do note that Atwater couldn't have succeeded in 88 without Hamilton's help, and Rove couldn't have succeeded in 2000 without the protection that Poppy Bush received throughout the 90s from various Dems.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:13 PM
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5. Turdblossom never impressed me
I've always felt that way, just like you Beetwasher. It has always surprised me at how smart people thought he was, you're right he's really no more than a thug, and like every thug he will be held accountable.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:57 PM
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48. Thinking Rove was a genius was a great indicator of how much corporate media you watched.
A lot of people bought into that crap.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:27 PM
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55. Bingo - and Carville and Brazille helped lead that broadcast parade.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:28 PM
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57. Tells us all we need to know about them - two more people I look forward to not hearing from.
At least fearing they might be on keeps the tv off, which is a very good thing.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:43 PM
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56. He's not a genius. He's a con artist.
A two-bit con man who sold 51% of this nation a defective product. The word "porcine" always comes to mind when I see him.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:14 PM
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6. He got a mental incompetent "elected" president twice.
That is no small task.

In many ways, your post proves the opposite of your conclusion. The fact that he got Bush close enough in 2000 to allow the tactics of Katherine Harris and the Supreme Court to even be a factor is scary. Bush shouldn't have gotten 50 votes, much less 50 million.

As for some of your other points, the fact that America is finally waking up is irrelevant. The damage is already done. Bush's effect on the country will be felt for decades. It doesn't matter if he's been exposed as a fraud now. The task was getting him elected.

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:28 PM
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10. Nope
Stealing two elections does not take genius, merely criminality.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:29 PM
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12. Some criminals are geniuses. Many, in fact.
The terms are not mutually exclusive.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:33 PM
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15. Never Said They Were Mutually Exclusive
Rove ain't one of those "genius" criminals, whoever they may be. He merely has no conscience and access to lot's of money and power. Nothing genius about any of his tactics. If he had actually gotten Chimpy elected by truly getting him the most votes I would consider him a genius. He didn't do that.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:46 PM
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16. He came damn close.
"by getting him the most votes"

Rove didn't get all 50-odd million votes with dirty tricks. He sold a TON of people on the belief that his idiot was a real candidate. The packaging was undeniably effective. The packaging got him within the margin to steal the election in 2000 and again in 2004.

Bush shouldn't have been within 15 million votes of Gore, much less within a margin allowing all of the other factors (Nader, Florida, Supreme Court, voter suppression, etc.) to come into play. Ditto with Kerry. It should have been a blowout.

Hell, the fact that Bush was even in the 2000 race is an accomplishment. The guy is a turnip that talks.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:01 PM
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19. If I Crack You In The Skull From Behind And Steal Your Wallet
Does that make me a genius?

Anyone with the millions Rove had and a compliant media could have done what Rove did. Rove was irrelevant to Chimpy being treated w/ kid gloves by the media. Hell, that makes Rove even MORE of a failure. Given what he HAD he STILL couldn't actually win an election fairly! You give Rove credit for the compliant state of the media that fawned over Bush? Puhleez. There are others far more brilliant than Rove who set the system up that he merely used, and FAILED at using. He LOST the elections and had to resort to THUGGERY and THREATS OF VIOLENCE (remember the Brooks brothers riot?) to steal an election. That's not genious. It's thuggery.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:12 PM
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21. Yeah, he's a failure.
You really think Rove is a failure?

Tell that to the Supreme Court Justices Bush has installed.

Tell it to the American soldiers killed and wounded in Iraq.

Tell it to the rich guys who are getting richer and the poor people who are getting poorer.

Tell it to Valerie Plame. Dick Cheney. Scooter Libby.

Tell it to anyone affected by the war. Or No Child Left Behind.

Tell it to the stockholders of Halliburton.

A failure, indeed.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:26 PM
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:12 PM
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30. Oh Good God!
Saying that Rove is a genius is in no way worship! And it is in now way defending him!!!

He is a freaking EVIL GENIUS!!! That's what makes him so scary and so dangerous!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:29 PM
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36. BOOGA BOOGA! He Doesn't Scare Me
Seriously, people scared of Rove are pathetic. Uhh, he's not an evil genius. He's just evil.

Way to do his work for him though by building up his myth. He's got you fooled.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:32 PM
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39. No, dear, he has you confused. eom
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:34 PM
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:41 PM
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46. How much slander are you willing...
to dish just because someone doesn't share your opinion?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:11 PM
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29. Rove was HELPED ALOT by a complicit media and some wellknown Democrats
who always managed to get on TV and assure Americans that they supported Bush on his terrorism and Iraq war policies from 2001-2006.

And those bigname Dems managed to make headlines every time they did, especially during the 2002-2004 cycle.

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:16 PM
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60. Can You IMAGINE If There Really WAS True Genius At The Helm?
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 09:17 PM by Beetwasher
Who had what Rove was given? I shudder to think what these maniacs could have accomplished if they were competent and truly genius. Given the media control, the propoganda wurlitzer and the post 9/11 bounce? A true genius would never, ever have squandered that and we'd be in a lot more serious trouble. A real genius would have been able to implement some NOVEL ideas to MAINTAIN that momentum and accomplish so much more. *shudder* In some ways we're lucky that it was Rove & Bush in those positions. Only a bunch of true fuck ups could completely squander what they had to work with.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:45 PM
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61. EXACTLY. Hoover, Nixon and Reagan didn't even get HALF the protection from
media and influential Democrats that Bushboy has received.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:56 PM
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18. Could he have done it without the corporate media protection?
Or could it be that when they spent the 80s and 90s buying up control of most of the broadcast and print media to assure that protection, it was an act of genius in itself?

And in that case, that genius has reared its head many times throughout history, just not on the scale that today's corporate media machine can assure.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:08 PM
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20. It certainly didn't hurt.
I don't mean to say that Rove is solely responsible for the rise of W, but he has been around the family for decades. He certainly has been a major part of Bush's "legacy".

I also don't mean to imply that I agree with his tactics or those employed by the Republicans. My point is simply that Rove was part of the machine that was able to propel an idiot coke-head who had failed at everything he'd ever done to the presidency of the U.S. Even with the media support, gobs of money, dirty tricks, etc., the fact that Bush was anywhere near the presidency simply boggles the mind.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:28 PM
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26. Maybe It Boggles YOUR Mind
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 01:28 PM by Beetwasher
It shouldn't boggle anyone elses mind who actually pays attention and it certainly doesn't make Rove a genius because he kissed the ass of the scion of a wealthy, politically entrenched family for decades. It makes him a scrupless sychophant. Bush got near the Presidency because he's father was President and once head of the CIA. That really boggles your mind? :shrug:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:13 PM
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31. Unbelieveable...
:eyes:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:31 PM
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38. BOOGA BOOGA!!
You scare easily. Ahh, yes, Rove, such a Jeenyus!! He clobbered America on the head and stole it's wallet! Wow! JEENYUS!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:32 PM
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You are confused...
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 02:33 PM by Juniperx
Genius is nothing to be feared, and nothing to celebrate when it comes in the form of Rove and his ilk.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:34 PM
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:25 PM
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54. Poppy's allies had the FORESIGHT to gain control of most media in the 80s and 90s.
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 06:26 PM by blm
And Poppy Bush himself formed an alliance with some center-right Democrats who would give the BFEE the room to maneuver as needed for their global endeavors.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Yep - Rove had PLENTY of help.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:15 PM
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7. Shhhh don't let repub candidates hear you....
lest they avoid hiring Rove - who has become a miserable "strategist" - here's to Mitt, Fred, or Rudy thinking that they can get him for really, really BIG BUCKS (and deplete their campaign funds.)
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:26 PM
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9. He has been effective.
But only because he is immoral, has no integrity and will stoop to any level to obtain his goal. By now even the press is on to him, which leaves his trick bag pretty empty.

Anybody hiring the bastard is guilty by association.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:31 PM
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14. he is toxic, now. Imagine the fun Tancredo will have at the expense
of the candidate that hires Rove (given Rove is credited with jr.s immigration policies.)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:16 PM
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8. I totally agree with you.
He's a liability. I think even he knows it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:29 PM
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11. He's not a genius; he's a criminal. n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:17 PM
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24. Agreed! You saved me from having to type that!
:rofl:

I've seen posts about him being a 'genius' on newspaper messageboards all day and it's getting old.

He's nothing but a criminal, lying, cheating, sneaky, underhanded, rethug, bastid!

Watch for him to rear his ugly bald head in Mitt the Shits campaign. ;)

I'd have preferred to see this!!


Funny he "resigns" while DC is on vacation and right after Romney bought the straw poll "votes".

He's so obvious!! :eyes:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:15 PM
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32. One can be both
And Rove most certainly is a MAD, EVIL genius. There have been many throughout history, and we shouldn't forget this.

Genius does not guarantee ethics or morality.

If Rove were not a genius, he would be behind bars right now.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:18 PM
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33. It doesn't take a genius to lie and cheat.
Just a criminal.

"If Rove were not a genius, he would be behind bars right now.
"


Not! He's been subpoenaed by Leahy.
He's hiding behind *'s coattails.
That makes him a coward, not a genius.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:19 PM
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35. He wove those coattails...
It's a shame you can't accept the fact that IQ has nothing to do with ethics or morality.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:36 PM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:19 PM
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34. You're right. One doesn't preclude the other but genius used
in service of criminality loses its luster.

The point is, his tag line shouldn't be appreciative but accurate.

He's a criminal. And we call gifted criminals "sociopaths".

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:31 PM
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37. Oh, there is nothing good about an evil genius...
And sociopath is probably a good term to use, because anyone that evil, and that criminal, surely has no compassion or empathy whatsoever.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:10 PM
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28. WRONG!!!
You confuse genius with something akin to morality. Ones IQ does not guarantee morality, ethics, or even a pleasing personality.

Rove is absolutely a genius. AN EVIL GENIUS! History has known many of them.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:34 PM
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42. You are confused...
And all you have to combat that confusion, and your own fear, is insults.

You shouldn't insult people just because you can't understand something.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:35 PM
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44. MY Fear???
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 02:38 PM by Beetwasher
I'm not the one cowering about the eeevil JEENYUS Rove. That would be you, cupcake.

What's to understand? You think Rove is an evil Jeenyus, I disagree. :shrug: Not hard. Ok, maybe it's hard for you, but not me.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:58 PM
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51. You are the only one I see cowering...
Why the problem with allowing Rove to be a genius? Can you give me one reference that shows genius and morals and ethics go hand in hand? No, you can't. Yet you insist. Peculiar... interesting.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:05 PM
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49. It indicates the sad state of our education. If you're an imbecile a moron looks like a genius
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 03:06 PM by glitch
The ability to follow a play book doesn't require genius. The ability to follow Lee Atwater's play book (or admire those who do) only requires corruption.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:48 PM
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50. Oh, dear...
Rove wrote the playbook for Bush... he is an evil genius, without question. Just like Hitler... and all those evil despots before him.

It's not a complement to call Rove an evil genius, but it makes us all look silly to deny his brilliance at being evil.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:59 PM
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52. Oh dear, indeed. On the one hand, maybe you shouldn't worry so much about looking silly.
On the other hand... you could be right to worry (sorry, couldn't resist :P).
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:02 PM
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53. Not sure why I expected more...
than a non-answer... oh well.
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