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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:33 AM
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How is the idea that a draft prevents wars working out for ya in Israel and elsewhere?
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 08:35 AM by NNN0LHI
http://teenadvice.about.com/library/weekly/aa030203f.htm

Countries with the Draft

A list of countries with "the draft" along with information about the age requirements and lengths of mandatory military service.


Afghanistan
• Any and all men above the age of 18 for as long as needed. snip

Algeria
• Any and all men above the age of 19 for six months (or longer if needed).

Angola
• Any and all men from 18 to 50 (some reports put the youngest age at 16). Women of the same age ranges with "special qualifications of interest to the armed forces." Note: those over 30 serve only in the reserve force. No mandated minimum or maximum length of service. snip

Cambodia
• Any and all men above the age of 18 for three years, extendable by an additional six months if needed. snip

China
• Men aged 18 to 22 may be drafted into the army at any time; men aged 18 to 35 may be drafted into the militia, or into the army during wartime. Term of service varies from between two and four years. snip

Democratic People's Republic of Korea
• Any and all men over the age of 16 and under 50 from 30 to 36 months. snip

Egypt
• Any and all men between 18 and 30 for three years.

El Salvador
• Unmarried men between the ages of 18 and 20 who are members of poorer socio-economic groups. No mandated minimum or maximum length of service.
snip

Ethiopia
• Men between the ages of 18 and 30, although there are reports of juveniles as young as 12 being conscripted. Obligation to perform reserve duties from the age of 30 to the age of 50. Service terms from 12 to 18 months. snip

Iran (Islamic Republic of)
• Any and all men at or over the age of 18 for a two year active service with lifetime reserve service.

Iraq
• Any and all men at or over the age of 19 with voluntary service allowed at 18. Term of service; two year active service with lifetime reserve service.

Israel
• Men and women over 18, with non-Druze Israeli Arabs and Druze women exempted. Service term: three years for men and two years for women, plus reserve duty of about one month in every year until the age of 54.

Kazakstan
• Unknown ages with unknown length of service. snip

Mozambique
• Any and all men between 18 and 30 for two years. snip

Republic of Korea
• Any and all men at or over 18 from 30 to 36 months. snip

Somalia
• Any and all men aged between 18 and 40; women aged between 18 and 30 (although in practice women are not normally drafted). Service terms as follows: two years general service (only 18 months for graduates of higher educational institutions).

Sudan
• Unknown ages with unknown term of service. snip

Viet Nam
• Any and all men at or over 18 for three years.

Yemen
• Unknown ages for terms of two to three years.

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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:24 AM
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1. Your Source excludes countries that Recognize conscientious objections
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 11:30 AM by happyslug
Countries with Limited Conscription ("the Draft")
Countries where there is conscription but where provisions are made to exclude people based on conscientious objections, religious objections, extra-ordinary family obligations, compassionate grounds and/or voluntary enrollment in alternative civilian or non-military service.

Angola
Austria
Belarus
Brazil
Bulgaria
Cape Verde
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Federal Republic of Germany
Finland
France
Hungary
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Ukraine
Countries that will draft non-combatants (ie: medical service personnel, humanitarian aids, office workers, cooks, etc...), usually on an as needed basis only.

Croatia
Yugoslavia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Russian Federation
Switzerland

http://teenadvice.about.com/library/weekly/aa030203h.htm

My own observation of the three lists from this source:

The Above are the Countries sited most often when you look at Countries with draft that avoid war. Unlike the list pf Countries you made, the above actually plan that their draftees may have to go to war as opposed to suppressing fellow peasants. The above list are countries whose armies can be described as "Universal Military Service", the list you cite the armies are best refereed to a "Dragooned Draftees". If you look at how the Draft has been used over the last 200 years, Universal Service Armies avoid wars, while Dragooned Armies permit wars on one's own people, Mercenary Armies (Which is what "Volunteer Armies" are, the enlistee serve for the MONEY) are best to take over a weaker country.
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