Why has mc cain had such a poor showing up to this point?

[Philosoraptor]

Is it a by-product of his being crazier than a shit house rat?

He was riding high there for several years, whahappen?

[babylonsister]

1. He's out of funds and staff to get 'the message' out. He's also a warhawk

and people are tired of illegal occupations.

[bryant69]

16. I don't think that last one has anything to do with it

No offense, but I think the Republican base is looking for a war hawk. Preferably a mutant cyborg war hawk ready to lash out at a moments notice. His support for the Bush insanity hasn't hurt him among the republican base; if anything it's helping him. If the his war support were hurting him, you'd expect what's his name, the crazy guy, to be doing a lot better. Ron Paul.

I think it's more to do with McCain-Fiengold, his run in 2000 against Bush, his opposition to torture, and years of Rush Limbaugh and his ilk attacking him.

Bryant
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[babylonsister]

20. No offense taken, but the majority of people in this country regardless

of what party they associate with want this occupation over. I can't speak for the 24% or so who make up the remaining * base, but the majority want out and McCain is not inclined to change his opinions any.

[bryant69]

27. He doesn't have to win over the nation yet

He has to win over the base. And that 24% make up a good percentage of the Republican Base. For every Republican who wants out of Iraq, there's at least one who is angry that we aren't in Iran yet.

That's why, of course, it's key for us to underline how the Republicans position on Iraq are no different than Bush, because as soon as Guilliani or Thompson or Gingrich has the nomination sewn up, they will start trying to distance themselves from Bush; but they can't afford to do that yet.

Bryant

[Dr.Phool]

2. I think it was the pictures of him in the mens room with a chimp.

[saltpoint]

3. He self-medicated on the John McCain who shows up on the news shows

on Sunday morning.

He whipped Dubya in New Hampshire in 2000's GOP primary there because New Hampshire Republicans tend to be an astute bunch, and not least, he attracted a lot of independents. A more informed Republican voter might easily be understood to prefer John McCain then to George Bush. This was a primary contest that featured Kathyrn Harris passing out Florida strawberries in the snow-lined streets of Manchester.

Once he became Bush's puppydog and cheerleader for Iraq generally and the Surge particularly, that independent/maverick/tell-it-like-it-is McCain faded. He became (or always was?) tone-deaf to what everyday folks already knew about Bush's war -- that it was a dark undertaking done with smoke and mirrors for no good reason, and that the Republicans still were lying about it as of the last time another one of them showed up on Timmy's Sunday show.

The 2000 McCain was a preferable Republican to George W. Bush but that McCain is long gone.

[rocktivity]

13. Posted by rocknation in General Discussion: Politics Wed Jul 05 2006

A McCain/Jeb ticket would be a dream come true

And best of all, we wouldn't have to do anything to McCain that Georgie didn't. What with the voting scandals, Terri Schiavo and the hurricane recovery, they can't deliver Florida without cheating this time, and if the Dems do well in 2006, something can actually be done about it. More important, with a Bush in his back pocket, McCain's "I'm a moderate independent" routine goes right down the drain.

All we'd have to do is present the threat of the country being run by ANOTHER unstable flip-flopper extraordinaire with Jeb filling Cheney's shoes in the role of "the REAL power behind the throne." Bring it on, guys, and make my day!



:headbang:
rocknation

[saltpoint]

18. McCain/Jeb. Good lord what a macabre ticket that would be.

An Ahab-like pro-war maniac and a corrupt Business-is-God sheister.

Good analysis early on, rocknation. Let's hope that History intervenes and keeps both these guys as far from real power as possible. They're bad news alone and together they'd be disastrous.

[lonestarnot]

23. Old Crusoe my friend!

:hi: :hug: Good to see you! :hug:

[saltpoint]

24. Hey there, lonestarnot. Good to see you, too.

And a goooooood mornin' to ya as well.

Rove's out the door.

Now if we can just get rid of the entire remainder of the administration... !

[lonestarnot]

26. Yes. Waiting on the day to see the whole bunch packing!

[saltpoint]

28. Iowa's caucuses are coming in January. A ways off right now but

a lot closer than they look.

In half a year or so we'll likely know who the next U.S. president is.

My guess is that it's not going to a Republican.

[lonestarnot]

29. Woot! I love the ring that has!

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. He's a political whore?

His "thang" seems to be, that he becomes whatever you want him to be. Mostly, he tried to capture the Republican moderates, but this last up to bat, he swung and missed, trying to capture the conservatives. You see, there is tons of film out there where McCain has expressed Centrist and some Liberal opinions during his days as Moderate Republican Maverik. So, to come on board now to try to get support from Bush's hardcore conservative base is just unrealistic. The nicest thing anyone can say about him, is that he's a huge flip-flopper. That's the nicest thing. It all goes downhill from there.

I could be wrong. I've only been watching through a peripheral view these days.

[cigsandcoffee]

5. Neither Democrats nor his GOP base trusts him.

When a politician panders to everyone, nobody knows where they stand.

[Buzz Clik]

10. Exactly. He spent roughly 4 years being a "maverick" and crapping on Bush...

... and generally pissing off all the Republicans.

2007 rolls around, and McCain is suddenly Bush's secret lover. Everybody feels betrayed.

[rocktivity]

6. He's just showed his true colors, that's all.

He's no better at working without a net as Bush is--maybe that's why they're such good friends.

As Randi Rhodes (who's on vacation this week) says, when people show you who they truly are, believe them.


rocknation

[dancingme]

7. freepers are mad at his immigration policy

they think he will give all illegals amnesty.

[Lasher]

39. That's it in a nutshell.

And he's become such a lapdog for Junior, who is unpopular now even among some Publicans, that his popularity has suffered.

But it was his position on immigration reform, which was also a lapdog thing, that did him in more than anything else.

[lynne]

8. One Word -

- immigration.

[Wetzelbill]

9. I think it's three things

One, he had public battles with Bush on a few high profile issues, like tax cuts etc. That and he fought against certain wings of the GOP like the fundies. Although much of that was for show, and he did little of note to really hinder those he opposed, it still gave him a faux moderate/Maverick/Straight Talker persona. These battles made the GOP base distrust, if not outright hate his guts.

Next after all of that, McCain then started trying to flip-flop and buddy up to Bush on certain issues. It made him look insincere, like he so burned to be president that he would say and do anything. It hurt him big-time Independent and Dems, to see him kissing Bush's ass, but to the GOP primary voters, it just reaffirmed that the guy can't be trusted. It gave him an aura of phoniness and shattered the Straight Talker thing for good.

Last it would be Iraq. Now most hardcore Republicans are still all about Iraq, but watching McCain regularly make an ass out of himself, like with his infamous market stroll, takes a toll. He's looked old and delusional and ill-tempered for about two years now. Even GOP voters can see he's stuck in the mud. And unfortunately for him, he has an odd position politically on Iraq. He is a huge war supporter, however he's criticized Bush from Day One on how the war is being prosecuted. So McCain still looks like that guy who is trying to say and do anything to be on the right side of an issue. Even as a Hawk, McCain comes off as an irritant to GOP voters. He's just been way off base for a long time and it's all caught up to him.

[Buzz Clik]

11. Hm. The equivalent of a triple low for his biorhythms, but it lasted for more than a day.

[Wetzelbill]

19. haha

Yeah, that is bound to do some damage to a guy. :)

[H2O Man]

12. Well said.

Rather than try to stick to his core values and appeal to a segment of society, McCain thought that he could sell his soul and gain increased popularity. The opposite result occured, and now no one likes or respects him.

[Wetzelbill]

17. I also think that with a lot of politicians selling out

doesn't hurt them that much, because they often aren't on the national stage that long. But people who follow politics even the slightest bit, have been watching McCain do his schtick for almost ten years now. It's very unappealing.

BTW, thank you for the kind words you had for me in your Fight News profile. :)

[freesqueeze]

14. He's flushed every appeal he ever had...

The once the outsider working for reform has been kissing the ass of GW too long. The straight talk express is now the lame excuse bus line.

It's sad what he's done to himself but we should all remember...he did it to himself.

[DFW]

15. Maybe simply because he is such a poor candidate?

[Buzz Clik]

25. Well, okay. But that's not fun to analyze.

[DFW]

36. Life's a bitch, ain't it?

[Virginia Dare]

21. Pay backs for campaign reform..

it's not nice to fool with K Street.

[lonestarnot]

22. Everybody he employed queeet.

:applause: :rofl: :toast:

[Karmageddon]

30. Could it be the batshiat crazy thing?

[AnotherGreenWorld]

31. He forgot how racist the Republican base is.

[MilesColtrane]

32. McCain's tanking has to do with his...

1) age. He would be the oldest elected U.S. president if he won.

2) support for the war.

3) residual image from Rove's work in previous Republican primaries. (He's crazy, he's a rage-a-holic, he's got a black baby, etc.)

[Ian David]

33. When his campaign staff is buying votes on their knees in men's rooms, it's a bad sign. n/t

[Blackhatjack]

34. I do not think McCain will make it to the first Repub Primary ...IMHO he is done.

McCain has shown no ability to raise the funds he needs to compete. He has lost most of his experienced staff. He was hoodwinked once again by Bush .... McCain will get no help from Bush even though the deal was that McCain would support the Bush war and other policies and Bush would direct his past contributors to support McCain.

McCain will never be accepted by the RW Conservative Fundamentalists.

He has been abandoned by Repubs, and surprise, surprise.... Bush money is lining up behind Romney. (I think Jeb Bush is a legitimate VP candidate running with Mittens).

In any event... McCain is done IMHO.

[BlooInBloo]

35. War support & related idiocies.

[spanone]

37. americans are tired of bu$h*s' dirty war and mccain wants more of itl.

[saltpoint]

38. His flag decal won't git him into Heaven anymore...

as the Prine tune goes.

I think McCain's worn out his welcome on the flag-waving hero thing.

The real heroes these days are the single parents with autistic kids, their school teachers, their care-givers, the quiet volunteer at the Salvation Army, and Bill Moyers.

The McCain model is being rejected for a number of good reasons.

[opihimoimoi]

40. No one told him to watch who ya HUG....that picture of him hugging Bush is a killer

[mwb970]

41. He's old & tired, he's turned wacko, he's a Bushbot.

What more do you need to know? McCain is no longer presidential material.