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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:25 AM
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"America was built on Christian principles that were derived from scripture"
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/08/10/gop-bigotry-rears-its-ugly-head/

Could someone please point out chapter and verse, please? :eyes:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:28 AM
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1. So too, claimed apartheid South Africa. Good company, eh? n/t
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:21 AM
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21. and so was Efraín Ríos Montt of Guatemala
a "born again" christian fundamentalist, responsible for the death of over 200,000 Guatemalans
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:34 AM
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2. Slavery, grifting and war mongering...
you'll find all of that in the Bible....:bounce:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:36 AM
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3. Too bad Rep. Sadi doesn't remember the actual Founding Fathers...
Edited on Fri Aug-10-07 08:49 AM by JHB
...rather than the bizzaro-world versions from fundy propaganda.

"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."

-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:43 AM
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8. Too bad that the fundies who run Virginia now don't subscribe to that..
this state is a virtual theocracy...:grr:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:46 AM
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11. NoVa is a safe haven more or less
n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:02 AM
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16. More or less, but they still
keep us on a pretty short leash. Here's hoping we can change that real soon.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:03 AM
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17. That's why Webb was elected
and they can't keep pulling out anti-gay amendments to the state constitution to keep the fundies racing to the polls. That's the only reason why they pull that sh*t.
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:53 AM
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13. no wonder given the name of the state...
... think about it.

or rename your state to "Defloratia" or something.
^_^
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:38 AM
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4. How about this - "America was built on the Anglo-Saxon principles of common law . . .
As laid out in the Magna Carta way, way back in jollye olde 1215."

Oh, but that's just quaint - never mind!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:40 AM
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6. Best post of the day!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:39 AM
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5. From the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli.........
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen ;....."

Good enough for the Founding Fathers. Good enough for me.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:43 AM
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7. Coke on Littleton. nt
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:45 AM
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9. Not true -- and Catherine Crier's book destroys this talking point
Everyone here should read it (remember, Crier was a Republic judge in Texas -- she is now one of the good guys!):

"Contempt: How the Right Is Wronging American Justice"
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:46 AM
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10. America was built by Christians (and others) trying to escape religious nuts.
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:56 AM
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14. One extreme leads to another

... as always.
Mostly protestants and reformatory church and some sects like mormons left Europe in order to live in a land where they could live as they wanted. What we see now is that not everybody wants to live in the way THEY wanted anymore. Reality catched up with them.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:21 AM
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20. Well...not exactly.
Actually, many of the transplants were not escaping from religious nuttism, in fact, because they, themselves, were the nuts. They were looking for a place to practice their own nutsiness without restraint.

And, of course, just in case they couldn't find enough poor souls to take advantage of, they brought a good supply of their own victims with them.
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:48 AM
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12. What a mor(m)on. n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:00 AM
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15. What were those Christian principles?
Killing Indians.
Stealing their land.

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:19 AM
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19. I always wondered what bible verse said


"If you find gold on someone elses land, just kill 'em or drive them off of it."

It's not in any bible I've read.

But I'm convinced the Fundies have their own Bobble, with all the Gospels removed, of course, since that Jesus dude was such a pacifist hippie...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:24 AM
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23. Besides the "Bible" only applies to that time and that place
Their god gave them a specific place as their land. Their god did not tell them to go to America and take it as their own.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:18 AM
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18. It is so amazing !!!!!!!!
All these stupid republicans quoting the Bible with passages that don't exist. Which goes to prove not a one of them has probably ever even read the Bible they quote.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:30 AM
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24. I am in total agreement with you!
One of my own favorite analogies, not totally original with me, is about the el cheapo watch one can buy for three bucks-or whatever they are going for now.
These people will spend more time on that little, postage stamp sized watch instruction manual than they do studying their supposed "manual for life."

Typically, people who don't subscribe to the christian faith know more about that faith and its rituals than do those who claim it as their own. (In my experience, that is.)
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:22 AM
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22. What amendment to the Constitution
Tells us to honor our mother and father again?

TlalocW
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