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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:21 PM Original message |
is the min wage increase having intended effect? |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. so they are working less, but getting paid the same? |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. well |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
81. Even if they get the same amount of money, but can work less... |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Exactly what im saying. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. You would like them to work more and get the same pay? |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. i never said i didnt like it |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. If one is going to make the exact same money |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. i didnt say that |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. You're looking at one group of people in one industry |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. well i certainly hope so |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
95. If there hours are getting cut back they probably very easily pick up another minimum wage job |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. You mean that $5.85 pittance? |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. like i said |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Because they get more free time (n/t) |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. and how does that help them pay bills ? N/t |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Most minimum wage workers I've known are college students and high school students. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. well unfortunately |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Uh, 20,000+ in student loans here, college student |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. she does understand that fully |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. It doesn't, if all her employer does is pay her the same for fewer hours |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
70. hey |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Just an FYI --according to 2006 CPS data, roughly one quarter were aged 16-19, |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. I am not saying it does but your logic is flawed in even |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. i hope thats true |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. The Federal Minimum Wage increase had no effect in many states. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. i live in kentucky |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. "... FORCED to work less ..." |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. i am only telling you |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. I don't buy it. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. well thats fine |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. Methinks you protesteth too much. Why do YOU identify yourself with the STORY |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Tell her to PICKET and stand up for her damn self |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
74. picket a ponderosa ? |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. At 1 hour/day, not much IMO. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. It's nonsense. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Thank-you Tahiti |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Well ... "tipped employees." (That incudes people other than servers.) |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. I was talking about the retail industry |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. I am REALLY suspicious of this post |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. oh please |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Well how about this then. You made it up |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. He actually has a point |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. thank you |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
19. a wage increase isn't going to get in the way... |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. Different laws for waiters and waitresses |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. another assumption |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Name the establishment....n/t |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
78. Ponderosa Steak House n/t |
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SecularMotion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is ridiculous |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. actually |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. See post 17 |
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SecularMotion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. And the end result of that |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. I agree. Not a smart move |
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SecularMotion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Unscrupulous employers will exploit employees |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Again I agree |
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SecularMotion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. The OP does imply that the exploitation is a result of the increase |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I can see where it could be taken that way |
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SecularMotion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Thanks |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
77. i guess my question was more |
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SecularMotion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
97. The point of a minimum wage increase |
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OpenSpace (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. I never understood this. |
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Pale Blue Dot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
35. I think you're confusing causation and correlation |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
41. NAME THE ESTABLISHMENT...n/t |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
43. What is the name of this establishment? n/t |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
47. Well, considering food prices have gone up along with everything else, no |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
48. DO NOT NAME THE ESTABLISHMENT |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Don't stand up to employers?? |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. No, I'm say don't be goaded into revealing |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. The restaurant should be exposed |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Christ that's all I've been doing on this thread! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You're enabling the abuser |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. RIGHT ON!!...n/t |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. We mention specific stores all the time |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. No not every IHOP |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Tinfoil hat time... |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Sweet christ |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. do you always just make stuff up like that? |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
80. bah i dont mind to tell |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
50. I wouldn't put it past some employers to pull this |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Stuff like that happens all the time.. We got a new Target in our town |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
67. Why I Think The OP Is Made Up |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. I agree with you. eom |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
71. Your OP is not the case for my teenagers, or their many friends. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. i suppose |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
79. TO THOSE WHO WANT THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Ponderosa is not a "big chain" to you? |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. silly |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Dude, they'll never be satisfied |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. lol yeah , youd think i wouldnt even bother |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. The one in Benton?? |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. i just found out there was a benton, ky |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. lolololol |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. yup, just keep attacking me! |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Gee...first you said a couple of people |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
89. Pure retaliation and for show. They still have to have enough servers |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. you didnt read |
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