A Russian proverb....

[Mind_your_head]

"Man exploits man, but under communism it's just the reverse"

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under fascism (corporations, without soul or wonder....it's a whole 'nother thing....worse than communism perhaps?)

What are your thoughts?

[Democrats_win]

1. Can't say what is bad, but I know it when I see it. This is bad.

[Mind_your_head]

2. I never realized - until I saw this saying - that facism isn't a 'step'

towards communism (bad :shrug:) as we Americans have all been taught. Fascism is an entirely differnt 'animal'. It has to do with corporatism and profit-to-the exclusion-of-all-other-considerations.

Man-vs.-Man I can deal with. Man-vs.some large corporate mega dollars. well, I know it's bad.......

[lvx35]

3. Fascism is material exploiting Man.

It represents the materialization of man, thus the things like death camps to "purify the population". Man is seen as nothing more than a chemical to be purified.

[Mind_your_head]

7. I've read all of the responses, but I believe yours is the closest one to the 'truth'

something like, please correct me if I'm wrong in my interpretation of what you're saying: "man is seen nothing more than a chemical to be purified.".....a commodity then, to be purchased, owned, traded....NOTHING more than that.

Which is SO WRONG.

[lvx35]

8. Thanks, it was a thought provoking question.

And yes, totally what you said. Not just the idea that humans are simply material, which some scientific worldviews do, but asserting the right of a certain class of people who are "above it all" to decide what is to be done with this material commodity...The fascist elite does not accept themselves as part of themselves commodity, at least I don't think.

[Selatius]

4. In soviet communism, the state is everything, the individual nothing. In fascism, corporations are..

everything, the individual nothing. In fascism, the state is merely just another servant of the masters of the realm.

A state is merely a vast, centralized, hierarchical decision-making structure where a few decide for the many. Whether these deciders are elected or not does not change the fundamental nature of the structure. It is an instrument of raw force, frightening power.

[WHAT]

5. but under fascism man exploits humanity

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[Festivito]

6. LOL. In capitalism man exploits man, in communism it's just the reverse.

Follows my thinking. Neither works well alone. We need capitalism for its incentive to work on our own and we need communism for its incentive to work together(such as in war).

Fascism is just another form of man exploits man. It offers incentive to push people to work by giving capital to a few wealthy, and it offers the appearance of working together by forcing law and order making things appear tranquil.

The truth is that nothing (that we know of yet) works well all the time.