Post your worst case scenario political predictions here..What is the worst thing that will happen?

[debbierlus]

Alright, put on your tinfoil hats & give your personal theories for the upcoming election season: :tinfoilhat:

This thread is not about what you think definitely will happen, but what you think COULD happen with little to no skeptism.

Mitt Romney will be the Republican plant for the election. (Remember, they don't have elections, so the next coronated king will already be long chosen). Mitt will DO or SAY anything to be President and he isn't very bright. Perfect puppet replacement kit.

Will there be elections? No. Not even staged elections:tinfoilhat:

Bush will APPOINT the next President after a staged attack. Elections will be canceled until we can recover for the trauma of the attacks & get the nation under control. The reason no attacks have yet been stage is they do not NEED them now, they are keeping their powder dry (literally) until the big scare is mandated for their survival.

No elections will come. What we do then is up in the air....

I am going to journal this for future posterity, so assuming we can still get access to it, should the catatrophies come, place your bets.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

1. Ghouliani gets installed -- worst and most likely case, I'm afraid. nt.

[lonestarnot]

2. No fucking way.

[Buzz Clik]

Way.

It's my worst fear. The worst possible outcome. But its possible.

Keep in mind before we dismiss Giuliani -- an angry sack of ca ca -- that an underachieving, slow talking business failure was elected twice.

[lonestarnot]

12. You can't dream that.

"Fool me once...can't get fooled again."

But I was never fooled in the first instance with that wannabe with a bullhorn.

[Buzz Clik]

34. I wasn't fooled, either. Not for a moment. But the Summer Whitehouse is in Crawford.

A lot of people were fooled. And fooled again.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

13. Certainly hope you're right. nt.

[rug]

49. He already tried to extend his term from past 12/31/01 because of 9/11.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnists/wickham/2001-09-28-wickham.htm

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

52. People think Bushler is bad (and he is), but Ghouliani is...

...the Pol Pot of the Americas waiting to happen.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

76. 2nd worst scenario, and somewhat less likely, Earth spins off it's axis and begins a ...

...a rapid death spiral toward the sun.

[AuntPatsy]

114. I was going to say the exact same thing, my nephew a highly intelligent

young man going on his sixth year in law school swears to me he is going to win in "08" the boy is a genius, when he was a child he would read the dictionary and encyclopedias instead of being outside playing, he reads everything he can get his hands on and swears the election is already won, of course I was horrified and shouted out liter ly "noway", he just smiled....

So that is my worst case scenario because he has yet to be wrong, though I hope there is always a first.

[Purveyor]

3. Everyone of the Constitution destroying bitches/bastards who voted for FISA will get re-elected!

Either party, doesn't matter.

[WA98296]

78. Agree, and with "voting" machines, lies broadcast as "news" or "polls" ...it's all so simple.

[Buzz Clik]

4. This is too damned easy! It gives me nightmares, but I believe it's our future:

Obama's naivete will get the best of him, and he (the last man standing against the Hillary machine) will crumble. Hillary will handily win the Dem nomination.

The GOP side isn't so clear, but I think Giuliani will miraculously overcome his amazing closetful of skeletons (and the fact that, other than 155 pounds of bullshit, he's an empty suit) and will be the GOP nominee.

A bloody campaign will ensue, and Hillary loses. Giuliani will keep the Bush legacy rolling, and I will get pissed off and scream, "I told you so, assholes!"

:rant:

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[Buzz Clik]

35. I'll alert the management to your problem.

I'll bet they can fix it.

[BeHereNow]

5. The worst case scenario has already happened- who ever is appointed has all the powers thus far.

As one analyst has said, think it's bad now?
Just wait until you see the next act.

Remember, all that the current "powers that be" have
amassed will be passed to the next installed pResident.

The horror is too overwhelming to contemplate,
especially with the realization that the same powers
control the democratic so called "representatives."


BHN

[saltpoint]

6. I'm fearful that Tommy Thompson will be creamed in this week's

Iowa GOP straw poll, realize finally that he has zero chance to be the Republican nominee, and will return to Wisconsin and run for governor again.

One term of Tommy Thompson is quite enough. Nevermind two or four.

He's easily one of the thickest human beings to ever crawl out of the slime and I just don't want him anywhere near real power.

[C_U_L8R]

7. I've got an inverted nightmare

The dems win the election...
inherit all these crazy powers that Bush sleezed through...
and go absolutely hog wild crazy with em
to the torment of hapless republicans everywhere.

Welllllllll ...a little hog wild crazy might be okay :-)

[liberalmuse]

24. Like they went hog-wild after 2006?

Hahahahahaha! That would be a good thing, in my world.

[Sanctified]

8. Bush disolves Congress, Senate, Supreme Court and the Constitution.

Then installs a Monarchy but tries to sugar coat it by calling it a Constitutional Monarchy. He also stops referring to himself as the "Decider" but as the "Dictator", anyone who speaks against him is sent to a special re-education camp but the upside is when you are at the re-education camp you get free health care.

[hfojvt]

9. Cheney gets impeached and convicted

Bush nominates Giuliani to be veep. Since the Press has built him up as 'America's Mayor' he is easily confirmed.

Bush gets impeached and convicted. Brownback becomes VEEP (red meat for the conservative base)

Giuliani runs as an incumbent and wins in a landslide, carrying the house and senate with him.

Ashcroft get appointed to SCOTUS to replace Ginsberg.

[Buzz Clik]

42. Dear god. Your scenario makes mine look like an ascension to heaven.

Thanks to you, Dante is now considering a tenth circle of Hell.

[OzarkDem]

99. Giuliani isn't a member of Congress

he couldn't be appointed to Cheney or Bush's job.

[hfojvt]

109. there's no such requirement

Bush could even nominate me, or any other native-born American who is over 35 years old. I'd probably have a tougher time in the Senate though, than either Giuliani or even Harriet Miers.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am25

[Liberal In Texas]

10. President Jeb... n/t

[KAT119]

18. Agreed-it's Jeb-Goddess help us....

[Virginia Dare]

93. DING DING!! We have a winner!!...n/t

[bonito]

11. A third party candidate arises

With MSM coverage giving hope for serious debate until just before elections their plane crashes.
:shrug:

[TomInTib]

14. National Emergency - Martial Law - Suspended Elections

I don't care how crazy that sounds, that's my bet.

[femmocrat]

16. You are not alone.

I think they are evil enough to do it. No way are they going to give up the WH.

[thunder rising]

17. Who could have predicted...Who'da thunk...

When you control the means to stop a tragedy you control the means to make it happen. A November surprise I'm hoping doesn't happen.

[TomInTib]

46. They have all the power they need to do it.

Last year, I was crucified for saying that here.

Even last week, someone reminded me that DailyKos was saying that anyone who thinks this is "clueless".

Well, I knew Lyndon Johnson and nothing would surprise me.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

67. Lyndon helped the handicapped.

He enabled dead people to vote, who were handicapped from doing absolutely anything.

And yet he enabled them to vote, so he could win a Senate seat.

Dead people in Duval County in South Texas.

WOW!!!

[CrispyQ]

104. My husband feels as you do.

He says they didn't work to accumulate all this power only to walk away from it. I have read more & more comments from people who feel the same way.

[Bobbieo]

28. That's my bet too - National Emergency - Martial Law - Suspended Elections

[TomInTib]

43. A year ago, I was BarBQued for saying that here.

I should have placed some bets.

[Virginia Dare]

95. No way...

they pulled soldiers off the battle field in the middle of the civil war to vote. What greater emergency than a civil war could there be? They won't get away with it.

[Dob Bole]

15. The winner of the primary will hire a DUer as chief political strategist...

....we do have some sucky strategists on DU, you've got to admit. :)

[AndyTiedye]

19. That Scenario Turns into a Saudi-Style Theocracy (Xtian Version)

A cabal of brazenly-corrupt robber barons running things, with a theocracy underneath as their enforcers.

[liberalmuse]

21. Hillary will win, but...

The 'pubs will find a way to impeach her within 2 years. She will be removed, along with her vice President because he was mysteriously killed in a plane crash during the start of impeachment proceedings. Hillary doesn't even have a chance to appoint someone, she is so wrapped up in her own legal mess. The House Leader, who is a Republican (because they were able to rig the elections in their favor again for the House and Senate) becomes President after the first President in history is removed via impeachment. That House Leader is none other than Tom DeLay, who is re-elected in 2008 after a Bush pardon in late 2007/early 2008 clears him of all his lobbying crimes. We will have a 10 year DeLay presidency because the Dems did nothing about election reform when they could have. THAT is the worst possible case scenario. Fucking A, may it NEVER happen.

[Loki]

22. My worst case scenario

1. Another terrorist attack
2. Bush imposes martial law
3. Bush cancels elections, Congress and the Judiciary
4. Bush declares himself El Presidente for Life
5. The Revolution starts

[SoonerPride]

26. What revolution?

You greatly overestimate the will of the people to care.

[TankLV]

29. The revolution in ELECTRONICS! - new channels of TV! Fantastic new APPLIANCES to save time and work

A revolution of LOW LOW LOW prices for GREAT GREAT DEALS!

A sale every weekend!

Can you just SEE it!!!!

[hatrack]

64. And in DAZZLING DIGITAL COLOR, TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Yee hah.

[jedr]

44. States, being to splintered by loyalist to Bush,

Exile "liberals" to Canada. Bush sends troops into Canada to put down the rebels and Canada declares war on the U.S. Allied by France, Germany, Arab countries and Russia ,WW III ends in Apocalypse with nuclear winter.( sorry, no rapture) Damn....I'm making this one into a novel......:tinfoilhat:

[defendandprotect]

23. Yeah, Jeb . . . But REALLY . . . I fear GW catastrophy; more Katrinas and . . .

more Republican bridges falling down.

Bush to the rescue . . . ??? !!!! ????

As the chaotic weather of Global Warming begins to increase, we could all be KATRINA victims; homeless and shuffled into temporary housing.

This could also trigger Bush's dream of a military state.

[Ian David]

25. Bush will intentionally trigger a nuclear apocalypse rather than leave office.

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

27. Ham-fisted 'One-party Revolution'

will be replete with Wal-Mart® jackboot thug ensembles featuring itchy polyblend brownshirts and L'i'l Headbuster truncheons.

When their own soldiers, weary from years of foreign combat, turn away from the New One Party, they obliterate the separation of church and state, and raise their own bloodthirsty army of faith.

Years of civil strife, ending in a draw. The New One Party dies like a fart in the wind and the once continent-spanning country balkanizes into smaller, more economically viable states.

[SoonerPride]

31. I'm moving to Californiastan, then. Oklahoma Union is too red for me.

Split up the US.

There giving that a trial run in Iraqistan now.

[femrap]

86. Better make that Northern Califoriastan....!

And on the coast, too.

There are some real red people out there.

[porphyrian]

30. Well, wait, someone's at the do

[TankLV]

32. bunker boy never leaves office...

dems dissolve party because the repukes are just SO WONDERFUL and besides, why fight them!!!

AMERIKKKA!, AMERIKKKA!, GOD SHED THY...

Hail the Fatherland! Hail bunkerboy!

God laura is looking HOT lately...

"I am not now and never have been a member of the Democrat Party", so help me JEEBUS!...

(my what a nice camp this is! - nice toilet rooms with showers and everything...)

[roamer65]

33. The complete, violent breakup of the United States.

We are in a period we haven't seen since 1860.

[Clark2008]

36. Fred Thompson will walk away with the entire enchilada

because we nominated one of our top three, who couldn't flip a red state with a straw hat and a mule.

[OzarkDem]

37. Dems will not win

Unless there is a radical change in leadership, they won't win.

They've caved on all the legislation that would protect themselves and our government. They've caved on protecting the integrity of a paper audit trail. At this point, Bush and the GOP have nothing to stop them from stealing the next election.

Our party needs to do a 180 and start fighting to undo some of the damage they've let happen so far. That won't happen unless we get a new management team.

[cally]

38. worst.....The progressives and moderates split from the party

and hold protest marches at the convention that deteriorate into riots (years later we find out that infiltrators caused the violence.) The media focuses endlessly on the radical left and possible anarchy. The Republicans win the election since many mainstream voters are afraid of the anarchists and the progressives and moderates vote third party or don't vote. The RW cabal continues for decades.

[JFN1]

39. Here's my worst case

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1526869

I just posted this today...

[corkhead]

100. Great read. Man, things have gotten really dark here at DU lately.

[JTG of the PRB]

40. There is a big attack during the summer of 2008...

Where and when, I couldn't possibly say. The terror alert will, of course be raised for the next couple months until the end of October/start of November... Another attack could occur, a smaller one, in a place that will cause extreme panic. For safety's sake, the Prez will postpone the elections until it can be determined who carried out the attack and just how much was planned.

There will, of course, be mass protests. Violence will erupt and deadly force will be used to quell the protests. Shrub will declare martial law and place the country under lockdown indefinitely. TV, radio, and the internet will be strictly controlled or shut down entirely. New powers will be given to the Commander-in-Chimp as he assures they are in the best interests of the country. When Congress protests, Dubya dissolves it and appoints 535 yes men and women to serve in the place of properly elected representatives of the people.

Chimpy vows to uphold the Constitution as a symbol of American greatness - but in reality, it has become nothing more than a memento and a keepsake of days past. America as we know it will have changed forever.

Okay. Time to take off the tinfoil hat. I'm allowed ten minutes a day, and my ten minutes are up riiiiight... Now.

[treestar]

41. The SCOTUS installs Jeb Bush as President

Jeb appoints Chimpy Secretary of State.

Ashcroft and Gonzalez on the Supreme Court, until Congress passes a bill doing away with the federal courts which Jeb signs.

Jeb then declares war on Venezuela. Halliburton cashes in. Jeb reopens Gitmo (enemy combatants in our own hemisphere) and hires Iraqi mercenaries to fight to war.

Jeb mortgages all of Florida and California to the Saudis to get the $$ for the war against Venezuela.

[TheCentepedeShoes]

45. Anyone ever read a book called The R Document?

I picked it from a bookcart full of old paperbacks at the VA a couple of years go when Mr 'pede was rushed in for emergency abdominal surgery and I needed a book to occupy my mind for a few hours to keep me from going nuts. Books always keep me from going nuts.
It was written in the mid '70's by Irving Wallace. The plot centers on the ratification of a Constitutional amendment that would, in time of 'national emergency' allow the president to place the powers of government in the hands of a special agency headed by the director of the FBI (spoiler alert...not a good guy). All states have voted yea or nay, now it's down to one. Yes means the 3/4 needed ratification, no and it's a dead deal. The AG (good guy) finds out about this mysterious 'R Document' attached to the amendment and he and the Chief Justice (another good guy) go off to find out what it means...

[helderheid]

47. Tinfoil hat donned. * Admin stages a terror attack, declares martial law, sends us to the US

detention centers.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

83. Yes. eom

[unkachuck]

48. the usual staged....

....election(s) will occur....

....Obama will get the nomination and lose to freddy 'feel-good' thompsom in the general after a massive September terrorist attack....newt as his VP....

....we keep the House (by 9 seats) but lose the Senate (by 3)....Nancy resigns in the of fall '09....new Speaker, Chucky Rangel....

....and we keep, wishin' anda hopein', figurin' anda prayin'....waiting for our progressive grassroots savior to arrive....but we shouldn't hold our breath....

[BlackVelvet04]

50. What is it that makes people enjoy

thinking of the worst possible things that can happen? Is it just the drama of it all?

I'm not trying to be snarky, I just seriously don't understand.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

92. sometimes when there's too much bad news... it's easier to think of what could be worse...

sorta like a psychological trick on our own minds.

Not saying how effective it is.

Maybe I'll play later. THat is, should this day at work not turn into a more stressful nightmare,

[Fearless]

51. Jeez everyone's complaining...

about how we're all dark and doom lately. How about some happy predictions??

[BlackVelvet04]

54. I guess there's no drama in that. n/t

[Fearless]

55. But I daresay it's less likely.

[Drix]

57. Happy Prediction

As looney as most the scenarios cited here are, are they any more looney than Bush v. Gore and it's outcome?

I believe many are quite possible but the good news is the revolution will be short because American police/military will refuse to fire on Americans demonstrating against martial law.

[Fearless]

59. I did laugh for a second...

But then I realized that American troops have fired on Americans before. Check the 1960's.

[Drix]

65. That was the 60's and Shooting Dirty Hippies was OK

The dirty hippie is someboby's grandma now.And it won't be just the dirty hippies protesting. You'll have the Quakers to the gun nuts protesting martial law.

[Fearless]

73. Let's get it over with then, I've got stuff to do

[mikelgb]

85. you should watch the video of the bastard

that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and he was so proud that he completed his mission successfully. He killed untold thousands of innocent civilians.

He was following orders.

Those who don't follow orders will probably be fragged.

[YOY]

105. He'd have to believe that.

Otherwise he'd go mad with grief. Don't think it hasn't crossed his mind. He'll never admit it but if it hasn't he's not human.

[warren pease]

108. They've had no trouble shooting US citizens in the past....

And not only at Kent State.

Many times in US history, when there was a strike to be broken or a local insurrection by the "real" Americans -- the indigenous peoples and tribes -- to be stamped out, federal troops were called in to destroy the opposition by any means necessary, including state-sanctioned killing. See the National Railroad Strike (1877), the Ludlow Massacre (1914), the Pullman Strike (1894) and the Haymarket Riot (1886) for examples and details.

And all but the 1877 railroad strike occurred after posse comitatus was adopted in 1878 to prohibit exactly that kind of abuse of military power.


Why should 2007 be any different than 1877?


wp


Btw, let's not get all carried away with this "dirty hippie" crap. It's insulting to those of us who had hair down to our navels and managed to shower daily, maintain our teeth and generally observe the same rules of hygiene as the dweebs working "straight" jobs.

[Fearless]

113. Indeed

While you personally might not want to copy the actions that the "dirty hippies" took, it's the meaning held behind it that really mattered.

[OzarkDem]

62. Have you heard of Blackwater? n/t

[Drix]

66. Blackwater Couldn't Squash a Sustained Revolution

American Blackwater employees could not day after day, week after week, gun down Americans in the street. For a day or two I wouldn't put it pass them to create blood soaked havoc though.

[AuntPatsy]

115. Oh common, no real drama in that post, remember brother verses

brother during the civil war? Gloom and doom here to your rescue.

[OzarkDem]

60. This is a political forum, we're activists here

It would be fun to make up some sunny, happy story, but it doesn't offer a way to accomplish anything. Better to be realistic about the situation and deal with it.

[Fearless]

74. And these situations are realistic?

I'll take bets on that one. Vegas'll give me great odds.

[Kip Humphrey]

53. The next president is assassinated and the Vice-President listens too much to his generals

resulting in regional nuclear conflict and worse.

[Snazzy]

56. No matter how bad, when all is said and done...

us dirty fucking hippies (the illustrious DFH) will rise from the ashes. We may offer imported beer (notably and suspiciously ice cold), maybe even something to smoke, sure. But most important, we will have, once again, been shown to have been amongst the few possessed with a clue. Respect that man/woman in the tie-die, thanks; might be your only hope.

[IDemo]

58. No nuclear attack required on Iran, nor MIHOP incident here. Worse yet

Widespread chaos after the economy finally crashes. Food riots eventually take place everywhere, resulting in martial law. Elections are the last thing on anyone's mind with survival at stake.

Bush plays guitar, eats cake, goes mountain biking and enjoys himself immensely.

[Yurovsky]

61. Hillary or Obama will win ...

but one of those whack job abortion bombers assasinates him/her. I seriously worry about the safety of the next president (if the election isn't stolen, it certainly will NOT be a Republikan). My worry is only compounded by my lack of trust at some of the people who might be entrusted to "protect" the President. Most I'm sure are decent people, but Anwar Sadat probably thought he had a loyal following too.

I think the tide has finally turned on the far right, but they have guns and no shortage of deranged followers. It could be a very dark period until they accept their minority party status.

[UTUSN]

63. Shrub continues?!1 or even worse, Jeb Crow Shrub takes over?!1 n/t

[piedmont]

68. Peak oil effects felt starting May 2007. World economy crumples.

"Green revolution" agriculture no longer viable.
Starvation.
Civil unrest used to justify cranking up uber-"Homeland Security," complete with camps.
Suspended elections, with:
Congressional complicitness; or
Congress at war with executive branch.

Militias mobilize on both ideological sides (or perhaps many), with the military fracturing.

In my absolute nightmare scenario the "good guys," those who recognize the new authoritarianism for what it is, just don't have the firepower or unity necessary to win or even draw.

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Obligatory disclaimer: The above is just my worst case scenario as solicited by the OP. I don't think it's likely (perhaps a 10% chance), but Peak Oil itself is a certainty. It will be upon us in the upcoming years, and it will be the biggest challenge in history to safely pilot humanity through it without enormous losses.

[Virginia Dare]

96. That's pretty darned bad...

but I think we're a few years off from that. It's coming though. When peak oil hits, all bets are off.

[piedmont]

110. Yep, I hope it's a few years away.

I certainly won't be ready any time soon. But it is coming, and I have serious doubts about our society's ability to smoothly adjust.

[ecstatic]

69. A totally ineffective Congress/Senate which paves the way

for another mass election theft: Repugs will have control of the White House, House, and Senate ONCE AGAIN because some of our leaders DO NOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND how important it is to manage the PERCEPTIONS & EMOTIONS of Americans who are sick and tired of all the corruption.

Not only that, but their smug asses still have not addressed the Diebold issue with enough force. I'm supposed to sacrifice part of my day to vote on a machine that may not even be secure. You mean to tell me they couldn't AT LEAST make sure that votes cast for them actually counted? Or are they all in cahoots?

That's what pisses me off the most about the warmongering assholes. They didn't stop for one fckin moment to think of all the lives lost. They don't view Iraqis as humans I guess. That's not surprising coming from repugs, but to see the carelessness demonstrated by our very own... well... a billion rants can't describe the feeling.

[CK_John]

70. Bloomberg wins enough electoral votes so that no one can win on 1st ballot. After 5 ballots

in the electoral college Bloomberg becomes President and Hillary becomes VP.

[noonwitch]

87. Bloomberg helps us the way Perot did, by skimming off the RINO vote

And leaving the conservative base, at 30% or so of the voting public, voting for the GOP. Bloomberg gets his 10%, and the democrat wins. Even Hillary or Obama.

[Virginia Dare]

97. If the Dems can get a veto proof majority..

that actually might not be so bad. It would significantly weaken the Executive Branch, and I think that might be just what we need right now.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

71. The Dems will continue to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory through

just enough of them caving in to Bush's every whim. By the time 2008 rolls around, the great promise and potential of 2006 will have been squandered in abject "bipartisanship."

The Democrats will nominate Hillary for president and Obama for vice-president, while the Republicans will nominate Giuliani and Romney.

The Clinton/Obama ticket will mumble vague platitudes about "policies that benefit working families" as Gore/Lieberman did in 2000 and Kerry/Edwards did in 2004, while the Republicans will lie and say that they have "plans" to end the Iraq War and ensure health care for every American.

More Americans than ever before will sit out the election, because they will not trust the Republicans, but they will be unimpressed with the Democrats, based on their unwillingness to use their majority effectively since 2006. Third party and independent candidates will get more votes than any time since the Depression.

The Republican "true believers" will carry the day, and the DLC will claim that the Democrats need to move even "closer to the center" to win.

[Individualist]

82. That's a highly likely scenario

The party doesn't seem to understand that Americans don't vote for weakness.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

94. Yes, my consistent experience has been that the average uninformed voter

likes FEISTY. I've seen people express admiration for a politician who speaks fervently, even if they don't really understand what he or she has said.

Party labels and even actual policies don't mean as much as the sense that the candidate "doesn't take any shit from anybody." Even better if the candidate is feisty about a set of core values. That's why fundie Republicans can win so convincingly. Many of them believe what they're saying and are vehement in defending their beliefs. Even if the voters know that the Republicanite will betray them economically, they know that what they see is what they get.

The typical upper tier mainstream Democrats tries to figure out what the polls are saying before taking a stand, and even then, the stand will be stated in terms as vague as possible.

My reading of Kerry (having seen him twice in 2004) was that he was too cool and cerebral and timid for the average American voter. (Yes, he probably won, but the election was close enough to steal, which it should not have been.) At the first rally, which was directed at veterans, Max Cleland was the warm-up speaker, and the audience responded to him with more genuine enthusiasm than it did to Kerry.

The contrast between the emotional tone of Kucinich rallies and Kerry rallies was also instructive. The few people who got to see Kucinich in person (no thanks to lousy media coverage) gave off vibes of being actively FOR him. He connected emotionally with the audience and caught their hearts as well as their minds.

At the Kerry rallies, the vibe was more, "Oh, I hope he can beat Bush." There wasn't the feeling that the audiences loved Kerry so much as that they hated Bush.

[OzarkDem]

101. That's very true

American voters like their candidates to show a fighting spirit, who speak out about what they believe in.

Beltway Dem political strategists have pushed the cautious, poll driven, mealy mouthed approach to Dem campaigns and it has hurt them. Sure they may get railroaded in the news media like Dean did for speaking out and being passionate, but that's some medicine they have to learn to take.

Nothing great is ever accomplished without effort.

[nadinbrzezinski]

72. As said above, what elections?

we no longer live in a free country and it is just a matter of time for that final shoe to drop

[Douglas Carpenter]

75. My greatest fear: We will be led into another unwinnable and intractable war in the Middle East

And this time with a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress.

I'm not saying that will happen. God, I certainly hope not. But it not

all together implausible.

And it is my greatest fear. And the thought literally gives me

nightmares.

--Then just as the Viet Nam quagmire wrecked the Democratic Party in

the 1960's and early 70's. Another unwinnable and intractable war will

wreck the Democratic Party again.

[Douglas Carpenter]

77. /

[ThomWV]

79. Hillary becomes our Nominee

And Obama would not be much better, in fact might be worse.

[Redneck Socialist]

80. We nominate Hillary and whatever soul sucking evil creature...

the pubs throw up wins. And while we still control congress Dems continue to vote in support of every god-awful proposal the pubs roll down the pike, because, because...I have absolutely no fucking idea.

[barbtries]

81. my worst case is

another instance of false flag terrorism, martial law, no elections.

[eggman67]

84. Cheney throws his hat in at the last moment

Picks Tancredo as VP and "wins" in a landslide. Appoints Gonzales to replace Ginsburg & GW to replace Stevens.

[harun]

90. WOW, with an imagination for horror like that you should be

working in Hollywood :-).

[eggman67]

111. It worries me sometimes :)

I couldn't believe nobody else thought of it.

[mopinko]

88. al gore will be assasinated

the usual small plane crash, on his way to announce his candidacy.

[Harry Monroe]

89. Chimpy retains power through 2008...

...then his relatives, the apes become smart, develop language and take over the world after Chimpy starts WWIII. Our civilization crumbles and apes ascend.

"Maniacs!! You blew it all up. Damn you, damn you to hell!!"

We can stop this now if we tell Chimpy now to "get your hands off the reigns of government, you damn, dirty ape!!"

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

91. Terrorist attack against Congress, killing numerous senators and reps

Bush declares martial law, begins installing his pals in the legislative branch to rubber stamp everything. Declares himself president for life, etc....etc....

[Virginia Dare]

98. I'd like to see the little fuck try...

I prefer to think we still have some patriots in the CIA who would prevent that from happening. It's pretty sad when we have to contemplate these things though.

[OnionPatch]

102. Hillary wins the nomination, then loses the general election

Which is sorta how the polls are showing it right now.

Our country, the world, can't take another Republican president.:scared:

[Generator]

103. I think the only Democrat

that has a chance to win in 2008 is Hillary. Only because I believe the elections are rigged. She's far right enough with the military and with the corporations that they will "let" her win if no evil Republican minion has been groomed by then. I cannot for the life of me see ANY of the Republicans we know of now winning.

If Hillary wins-expect the war to continue. Expect the war that will be (probably stealthily and false flag) with Iran to just be getting started. Hillary will get nothing done because of the usual suspects (of course she's a million times better on Domestic matters) and then because the Dems DID nothing NOW and in the next eight years to stop absolute executive power-the real nightmare begins.

Because nothing has happened to us YET-we are still free. But trust me, there are people that make Bush look like Mr. Rogers, and they are just being groomed, just getting the fire in their eyes. I don't think the Republicans have anyone yet-I think Mr. Anti-Christ is not ready for 2008. That's why I think Hillary will win, this site and most Dems will be placated-(oh never mind those WARS) and everyone is a freaking fool if they think Hillary Clinton will save this country.

[CrispyQ]

106. Not the worst case scenario, but here goes:

Hilary 'wins' the dem nomination. Since they control the voting machines, they also control who wins the primary. The corporatists put her in the White House & tell all of us to shut the fuck up about election fraud already. After all, a dem, & a woman dem no less, has been "elected" to the highest office.

After she's inaugurated, the next four years will be spent blaming her for every last fucking mess that bushco has done in the past 8 years. In 2012 they will not have to steal the election to put another repuke back in the White House & it will be years before another woman is seriously considered for the office of President again.

[Vinca]

107. This is a very, very, very, very worst case scenario:

King George declares martial law, nullifies the election and refuses to leave.

[ben_meyers]

112. Absolute worst case

The US extracts itself from Iraq
The economy doesn't totally collapse
the world isn't destroyed by the weather
People aren't rounded up and put into "the camps"
A new President is elected and an orderly transfer of government happens (most likely a Dem because thats usually what happens every few years)
The Dems probably retain control of congress
Limbaugh's ratings go up because that's what happens when a Dem is in the White House
The vast majority of Americans go about their lives like they always have
Some people end up looking silly for all the gloom and doom being spread
and some people bitch and moan that the Democrats that we elected aren't pure enough