So. Who is taking credit for the downfall of "Communist China"?

[annabanana]

Wait. . what?

[AtomicKitten]

1. Raygun, posthumously

[annabanana]

3. I was thinking the history rewriters would try to credit Nixon..

(at least I wouldn't put it past them)

[AtomicKitten]

6. I just figured it would fit right in with their hero worship of Raygun

... regardless of the fact that it makes no sense at all.

Nixon is tainted.

[madrchsod]

2. C C C

Communist Corporate China

[annabanana]

4. And that's different from the Mandarins, how?. . n/t

[madrchsod]

7. maybe this?

actually, i looked up mandarins and nope not much difference then and now..

[ThomWV]

5. Well, it happened during Clinton's watch. So maybe he should get credit.

It was Nixon. He opened the door - everything else just followed.

[kenfrequed]

8. Who wants the credit??

I mean why would someone want to take credit for turning a pseudo-communist party worshipping despotism into a capitalist feudal state despotism?

It still is a despotism with atrocious human rights violations. Anyone 'taking credit' would be stupidly premature.

[kenny blankenship]

9. I'm unaware of the PRC's "downfall". The party ruling China when Carter officially recognized

is the same party in control of China today. Maybe you could credit Deng Xiaoping for liberalizing China's economy if that's what you mean by "downfall". Carter's official grant of recognition to the PRC in 1978 (after Nixon's diplomatic visit) opened the door to regular trade with China, and Deng Xiaoping transformed China to make the most of that opportunity. Although derecognizing Taiwan and recognizing the PRC as the rightful gov't of China preceded the explosion of trade between us, it is apparent that Deng let the Carter Administration know how he planned to change China, leading to the grant of recognition. Although Carter waded through Republican abuse for recognizing China and is to be credited with easing China's entrance into the world economy, the engine of this change was a little man in a Mao suit named Deng Xiaoping.

Not everything in the world good or bad is caused by Americans.

[annabanana]

10. silly literalists. . . . n/t

[SoCalDem]

11. not Lou Dobbs..

:rofl:

[KharmaTrain]

12. Don't You Mean "Red" China???

I recently heard Lou Doobies use that term...I felt like I was back in the 60's. Of course they were vanquished...didn't you see when they put Mao in a Box with some White Rice and Sweet & Sour Sauce? :sarcasm:

Anyone remember who was Nixon's first envoy to China?

[On the Road]

13. I BelieveThat Would be

Deng Xiaoping.