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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 06:30 AM
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How easy it is for democracy to slip away
Edited on Mon Aug-06-07 06:31 AM by Ian_rd
Little by little, one tiny piece at a time. No longer are allusions to Nazi Germany impolite or irresponsible. No longer can we think that having a Democratic Congress actually means something - not when it really counts.

Only in America, where politics has become so dominated by amoral political consultants and focus groups, can a political party achieve a spectacular victory and then celebrate by licking the boots of their opponent's feet. These people don't give a flying fuck about the oath they took to defend the Constitution, and they sure as shit don't give a flying fuck about your freedoms.

No more "sticking together" bullshit. If the Democrats actually voted to make breaking the fourth amendment legal, then what does "sticking together" get us? It gets us exactly what we would get if we all voted for Republicans.

As Jenk on Young Turks just put it, these Democrats are now to the right of John freakin' Ashcroft. Ashcroft wouldn't stand for this. He summoned enough strength on his hospital bed to refuse to kowtow to Alberto Gonzales and his bag of goods. But all it took for the Democrats to do his bidding were the sweet whispers of political consultants: "You don't want to look weak in the face of terror, do you?"

They fucked us over with the Iraq War vote. They fucked us over with the Military Commissions Act, and now their fucking us over again on our Bill of Rights. Face it: They will fuck you whenever it's politically expedient to do so. So I say fuck them. Replace them with challengers who run on a platform that we unfortunately need desperately now more than ever: Restoring American Freedoms. Their speech announcing their candidacy can be simple: Reading the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 06:35 AM
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1. No shit. It was a cakewalk to destroy the founding father's goals.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 06:39 AM
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2. This is truely a low in need of a FIX-----we got six months to mount a real fight.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 06:41 AM
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3. "Eternal Vigilance". .
"Free government is founded in jealousy, not confidence. It is jealousy and not confidence which prescribes limited constitutions, to bind those we are obliged to trust with power.... In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in men, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1799

"Freedom is never an achieved state; like electricity, we've got to keep generating it or the lights go out." -- Wayne LaPierre

"Those who profess to favor freedom, yet deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." -- Frederick Douglass

"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -- Teddy Roosevelt

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 06:51 AM
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4. When it is gone, the majority will be shocked.
They will stand back and say how could this have happened here? Little will they realize they allowed it to happen with their apathy.
Honestly, I don't think we have 6 months left, if something is done very soon it will all be gone.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 07:04 AM
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7. During WW 2, I wondered why the German people let Hitler
take over their country. Now, I know how he did it - with fear and we Americans are allowing Bush to do the same thing.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 07:26 AM
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9. Exactly
Growing up and reading the lessons on Hitler, one would think that he took sudden control of Germany, but he did it over time just as the bu$h regime has done here.
But we dare not compare bu$h to Hitler because it couldn't happen here. Too late folks, too late.
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A wise Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 06:57 AM
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5. The difference between Democrats and republicans
The republicans are lead in lockstep to support the party and not the constitution for which it stands. They'll believe, do and say anything their leaders tell them to as their brain remains idle.

The democrats are not so easily led like someone with a ring in their nose. We think, we observe, we reason, and we define and we question. So when our representatives screw up, "WE POUNCE", and rightful so. They must be held accountable when they screw us.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 07:00 AM
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6. I said it last election..
... and I say it again. It isn't just Republicans that need to get their walking papers, it's incumbents.

All congresspeople care about is getting re-elected and keeping their cushy-ass perk-encrusted jobs. They will stoop to any level in their attempts to increase their chances.

Send their sorry asses home.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 07:22 AM
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8. Fear plus a few unchecked lies are all one needs.
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