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Dems2002 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:16 AM
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Liberal, Progressive, or Populists to one side -- Blue Dogs and DLCers to the other
Ok, here's the deal. Not everyone who voted for the FISA resolution needs to be immediately challenged in a Democratic Primary. BUT, the arguments that Blue Dogs and craven cowards are the best we can do is bs.

There seems to be quite a bit of 'liberal bating' going on in this forum right now. As if we're going to run Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters in a freakin' Utah Primary.

We need more Jon Tester Democrats -- Proud Populists and Civil Libertarians who respect the Constitution.

Jon of course hails from that great liberal state of Montana...where a majority probably would like to succeed from the UN...but also want to repeal the Patriot Act.

It's the Jon Testers that we run in a majority of these districts. Not all of them -- I won't write off every blue dog -- but the DLCers? Damn straight. There ain't no one in Georgia voting for a democrat because he passed the bankruptcy bill. Emmannuel wants to recruit these guys because then he can get businesses to pony up more dollars and he becomes more powerful.

Our country has never been able to mount a strong populist wave, but I'm beginning to think the anarchists had a point, the worse things get, the more people are going to go in the opposite direction. And the opposite direction to mounting executive and corporate power is a populist backlash.

This wouldn't have been possible without the internet, but here we are and figuring out ways to support candidates over the establishment in the primary and get them elected.

It's not just about the war. It's about the fundamental Rule of Law. Which is NOT a partisan issue, but IS a fundamental issue of our time.

Jenn





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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:20 AM
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1. Nice...
Kicked and Recommended.

It IS about the rule of law and about giving these bastards more authority than they'd already taken on their own.

We need more populists and fewer "centrists."
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:57 AM
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2. When I say the Pledge of Allegiance
it's to the flag that represents our country, not raising a glass of kool-aid and toasting any particular party.

if a particular piece of legislation was wrong when the republics passed it - how does extending that legislation with dem support make it right?

if putting our country and people first, and party allegiance way down on the list makes me "bad" - then so be it

I didn't register as a Dem until 1999, I'm 52 yrs old, and up until 1999 I was an independent. I was independent because I couldn't embrace any party's platform (major or minor party)

I went Dem in 1999 because I feared an 8 year reign of republic "values".

I'm still a registered Dem, some may snark and say "why don't you change back to independent" - I might, but then again, just because I'm registered as a Dem doesn't mean the dems automatically get my vote

it also doesn't mean the dems, or any other party will automatically get my money either. If I don't like what I see on the shelves - I don't buy it
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