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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 AM
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Two US carriers have left the Persian Gulf

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=18311§ionid=35102



Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:03:44

Two US carriers have left the Persian Gulf

The two US aircraft carriers sent to the Persian Gulf as "a signal of strength to Iran" have returned to their home ports in a power drawdown.

The US 5th Fleet's headquarters in Bahrain confirmed that the USS John C. Stennis and the USS Nimitz have returned to their home ports after being replaced by The USS Enterprise.

“There are no immediate plans to send another aircraft carrier to serve alongside the Enterprise,” a US spokesperson said.

Following mounting tensions with Iran and after a much publicized US military buildup in the Persian Gulf, where the navy kept a two carrier presence since February, there was at least a week with no US aircraft carrier patrolling the area.

But the arrival of USS Enterprise, with its fleet of 5,500 sailors and Marines, 70 attack, fighter and detection planes, as well as four helicopters, reflects that the navy is scaling down its Persian Gulf presence, as this ship will be the lone aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:30 AM
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1. Sorry but this is not news. I tried it already
Its only news when aircraft carriers go INTO the Gulf.

I don't understand it either.

Don
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 10:18 AM
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15. It's the USS Enterprise Carrier Strike GROUP!
the USS Enterprise Carrier Strike Group, which includes accompanying destroyers and
a submarine, was in the Red Sea and heading for the Gulf and the wider Gulf region.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSL0181708920070801
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 12:54 PM
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16. So? All carriers are part of strike groups. NT
Edited on Sat Aug-04-07 12:54 PM by TheWraith
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 12:58 PM
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17. Just clarifying. It's not really a reduction in force...
The OP title makes it sound like one ship has arrived.

It's not really a reduction in force, it's just relief for the two ships that left.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:34 AM
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2. Remove ships, get launch codes for the ICBM's??? One has to
wonder.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:38 AM
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3. I can't access that article - can you explain ICBM's?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:40 AM
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4. Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, here is a photo of one for you...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 09:03 AM
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10. I should have been more precise - I meant - what does it mean?
The Enterprise is bringing ICBM's and the ones returning didn't have them? The articles doesn't mention this.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 09:19 AM
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12. Oh no, that was just me making a hypothetical... purely conjecture
on my part, sorry for the confusion.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:59 AM
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9. new url for the article
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:41 AM
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5. The conspiratorial side of me...
...might think that you only NEED *one* carrier... arriving six month late... if you spent that time loading it up with some heavy-duty (maybe even nuclear) weapons. Bring back the other two to uparm them, then send them back out.

But really, I just think it is a recognition that their presence wasn't doing a damn thing.
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:47 AM
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6. And meanwhile the Russian Navy lays a flag on the Arctic floor
could it be because our Navy wasn't there to prevent it?



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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:58 AM
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8. Why?
is the North Pole US territorial waters?
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 03:03 PM
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18. well it isn't now...
American subs used to trail the Soviet navy; Hunt for Red October and all that. I saw a post in DU recently joking that if it were in the cold war the Russians would've put the flag on the hull of one of our subs, that was sitting there waiting for it.


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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 10:06 AM
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13. Why should the USN have prevented it...its nothing more than littering
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 03:05 PM
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19. It's a little more than that - I read there's a manned dive happening today
as a followup.

And the flag is because the Russians want to claim it, and intend to drill there for oil.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 08:57 AM
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7. Deny that conspiratorial side, because
they wouldn't remove the carriers to up-arm them with munitions. They would bring the munitions to the carriers. That is waht as-sea replenishment is all about.

As far as nukes, if anyone thinks that there are not attack submarines carrying Tomahawk missiles with W80 nuclear warheads available currently in the Gulf area (probably loitering in the Indian Ocean)I want some of what they are smoking.

This seems to be normal rotation of carriers with a somewhat extended overlap on-station in order to permit sabre-rattling by Cheney et al.
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broadcaster Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 09:11 AM
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11. Ok, if we are going to look at Iran's presstv.com stories...
here is one I've yet to see substantiated by other sources:

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=17447§ionid=351020205

Anyone seen this reported elsewhere, such as BBC or Reuters?
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Help me help Earth Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 10:12 AM
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14. I'll wait to see if anyone else picks it up, but I won't hold my breath.
Press TV is not exactly the most reliable news source I've ever read.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 03:09 PM
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20. I'm always glad to see our troops and ships come home
Awesome news
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