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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:00 AM Original message |
Just woke up....Democrats Caved. Game Over. |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. I like to hear Sen Web's comment on this. Lots of Dems went with this. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
68. He has no press release about this. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
2. That's just it - it's not a game. Lives are at stake |
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Decruiter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Game over, when are we all going to "get it"? |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 02:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
106. It wouldn't "be over" if 9/11 and Pre-War Intel & Election Fraud Investigations were opened. nt |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. just an expression, it's certainly NOT a game. Civil Liberties Over. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I know you know that, spanone..and I know it's just an figure of speech |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
108. "It does contain the six-month sunset that we insisted upon, and that gives us an immediate... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. I'm in agreement |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. The system is too broken to be fixed: the corruption and venality just run too deep |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
51. I don't know if it is too broken, I think we just don't have the will |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
6. A few months ago.. |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Amen.....I am so fucking sick of these assholes |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
39. i feel sort of the same |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
50. They are corporatists, not representatives of the people |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
83. The new party, we shall call them the |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 02:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
105. I'm already mostly gone. |
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UKProPeace (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
7. Bloody centrists |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Welcome to DU! It is so nice to see someone new at DU who |
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UKProPeace (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Thanks rze, and hi....I think I do get what you've said eom |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. i've been here for a couple years, i think, |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. I was saying troll without saying troll. n/t |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. ok, thanks! |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
81. I wore the grooves off of an old 78 rpm record of "The Three |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Thanks for the insight |
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UKProPeace (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
72. Hi and thanks Ozark |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. How did you folks deal with them? |
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UKProPeace (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 06:22 AM Response to Reply #77 |
109. Oh there are still some in place Ozark... |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Welcome to DU! n/t |
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UKProPeace (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
73. Thanks tblue |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
62. "Centrists" are the PR arm of the totalitarians. |
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UKProPeace (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Yep, certainly seems to be the case rucky eom |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
86. Yes. eom |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
98. knr your post |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. Do we have a list of Dems who voted for the bill? |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. There is another thread that lists them in GD |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
97. Thanks! |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. what will happen in the House? |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
14. I am beginning to feel like the American people are just |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
16. Do we have a list of these mother fuckers Democrats who voted for it? |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. can't find it. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Here: |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. thank you! Feinstien? Webb? Bayh? Jesus...... |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
64. Mikulski?!?! |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Casey, of course |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
75. here is list: |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
22. A MINORITY OF DEMOCRATS on a TEMPORARY MEASURE. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Here is a description of the temporary measure |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
78. Hold those who voted for the temporary bill in the LIHOP enviroment in which we live |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. 16 is a lot of votes to overcome......... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. No, 28 didn't cave in. The vote was 60-28. 16 Democrats caved in. What was worse |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. Then hold those who voted for the bill accountable if you wish. But stop |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Can You Explain To Me Why The House Suspended The Rules And Allowed |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I have no idea. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Thanks for the link but I've looked at the Senate Roll Call every which way. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Actually I would say this to you as well: |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. There is Grand Scripted Theater going on in the House. Quite a show. |
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Terri S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. You're post is SO spot on, there's not much I could add |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. i have whole bunch of bobble head dolls in the basement i think i am going to rename them |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Thank you Terri for getting it. And yes, this is the worst time I remember during my lifetime. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Yeah like how the Patriot Act was only temporary. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #22 |
65. temporary.... uprecedented authority to the AG.... there's no excuse for this |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
70. The Emergency Measures are always 'temporary' |
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A wise Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
23. Bush had to get them to give him a bill |
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Terri S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
93. Bingo!!!!!! Just like the MCA |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
24. Why is the Senate enabling this unpopular president which hardly anybody agrees with? |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. maybe because they know cheney is capable of inducing a terrorist attack for political gain. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. That's more of a reason to not give them any more power. nt |
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A wise Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Nancy just said it yesterday |
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broadcaster (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Pelosi has enabled this coup, so has Reid. |
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A wise Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Seems that way to me also |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Pelosi and Reid are the worst leaders ever. Period. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. I'm REALLY liking your sig line right about now. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
85. But she has a big gavel ! |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Yep. nt |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
57. yep |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 02:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
107. Let the SOB Cheney try: It then wouldn't be a "terrorist attack"...it'd be (more) treason... |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. They are grateful to be at the trough. |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
34. what did we vote for? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. You may add this to your list: |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Thank you, good reminder... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
36. so we hold hearings decrying the Justice Departments political shenanigans |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Amen |
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cureautismnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
38. Can you imagine the Repukes giving Clinton this power? |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #38 |
52. Absolutely not: on one side we have the sleaziest of slime balls |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
40. We have no opposition party. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
46. Remember this type of thing when we start talking about a revolution |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
47. they should have INSISTED that gonzales step down INSISTED |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Thats what a real opposition party would have done at the LEAST. |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
56. They did the same thing when GOP controlled congress. No big surprise. This |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
59. lol! "game over". Only for wusses. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Yeah, the game's not over...they have lots more caving left to do. |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
102. Yeah, they can still vote to put a McDonalds in at Guantanamo |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
61. The search warrant is SUCH an obsolete concept. Even more so than the Geneva Conventions. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
63. Deleted message |
Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
66. You had a doubt? |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
67. this is NOT why I voted Democratic in 2006 . . . n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
69. If anyone really thinks that the Senate will "fix' this in 6 months----- |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. of course not, in six months these consessions will be outdated. they will ask for more. |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
84. We work with the democrats we have |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Does It Really Matter IF WE VOTE ANYMORE??? n/t |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. The Dems were told that the next Terrorist Attack will be blamed |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
87. I KNEW Bill Nelson Was So DLC, But WEBB Is A HUGE Surprise! |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
94. I've been in a bad place ever since they caved on the Alito nomination. |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
99. I don't even understand why |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
100. Disgraceful. |
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Norwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
101. Just wait, when the sunset on this bill comes up |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
103. our senators just voted to use our taxes to spy on us, great! |
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Az_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
104. guess they had flights to catch and couldn't be bothered with this shit |
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leaninglib (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
110. The key words are "suspected foreign terrorists..." |
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