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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 07:15 AM
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America Has Been The World's Bully For 62 Years
America Has Been The World's Bully For 62 Years
by Timothy Gatto | Aug 3 2007 - 1:12pm


This country has been heading downhill for a long time and we only have ourselves to blame. When the attacks on the USS Cole happened, we were outraged. Blackhawk Down was a movie that hurt American Pride. When the attacks on the World Trade Center happened, nobody asked the right questions, we were all too mesmerized by the constant repetition of those planes hitting the towers over and over again. The American people wanted someone to pin it on, and the Bush Administration, after they finally had the guts to come back to Washington, gave us the perpetrators.

How quickly they had all 19 terrorists identified and their recent histories ready for publication. It didn’t seem odd to anyone that while Bush was flying around in Air Force One, the only other airplanes that were in the air were members of Bin Laden family and members of the Saudi Royal Family. I was always told to be careful of the company you keep. It didn’t surprise anyone that most of the members of the gang that supposedly did the hijackings were mostly Saudi citizens?

I watched Bush ratchet up the hysteria toward Iraq and Saddam. At that time even the Democrats were foaming at the mouth. I volunteered to go to Afghanistan but came down with cancer. I’m glad I didn’t go. I would still probably be in the Army at 56 rears old, fighting in Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with any attack on America. I learned something back then, something that I knew at thirteen when I watched a “Special Report” on television while my mother was in the kitchen making dinner.

She walked into the living room near the end of LBJ’s speech. She asked me what was going on. I turned to her and said “it’s war Mom, the government said that North Vietnamese patrol boats attacked American destroyers and now he’s going to send the rest of the Army in there.” She asked me why would patrol boats attack destroyers? I told her so LBJ could send the Army in. I shook my head and went down to my room in the cellar and fumed, mad as hell at the government for blowing things out of proportion.

You might believe that I’m making this up, but I assure you that what I’m writing here is the truth. I absolutely knew then that it was ridiculous to believe that Vietnamese patrol boats tried to take on American Navy destroyers. The rest of the country didn’t think it was unbelievable. In fact, Congress let LBJ have Carte Blanche to do exactly as he pleased. The same way 30 years later that Congress rolled over and did exactly the same thing over again with Iraq.

You see, at first it’s that old “fight or flight” instinct. Works every time. When Hitler invaded Poland, he said that the Polish Army had overrun a radio station on the border with Poland. The German Army took some old polish uniforms, put them on convicted criminals and shot them to death at the radio station. They had a newsreel of some old trucks with polish markings crashing through the fence and then had German commando’s in Polish Uniforms shoot civilians that were surrendering. The stage was set. Of course nobody asked how the German Army just happened to be there en masse, that was immaterial. The German citizens wanted blood, and they got it too. So much blood that even now Europeans don’t have the thirst for the stuff they used to have.


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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 07:36 AM
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1. No, not true. nt
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 07:36 AM
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2. Herman Goering on "How to Start a War for Dummies"

Later in the conversation, Gilbert recorded Goering's observations that the common people can always be manipulated into supporting and fighting wars by their political leaders:

We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 07:42 AM
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3. 62 years?
the usa started bullying in the 1800`s ...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 07:44 AM
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4. yep, like annexing a big chunk of Mexico and calling it Texas... or the genocide
that was the American-Indian war(s), just to name a couple.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 07:55 AM
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6. "Manifest destiny" goes right back to the beginning.
Wanted to annex Cuba as early as 1850. Pierce's Mexican War is certainly a good early example. Monroe doctrine asserting control of Western Hemisphere as early as Monroe's term in office. But it is true that things got ratcheted up a good deal after WWII, which left behind a large power vacuum for us to fill.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 07:48 AM
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5. At certain times in our history, this has been true...
...mostly the last 40 years (the beginning of the escalation of VietNam), not 62. We mustn't forget things like the Berlin Airlift - the Soviets tried to starve the Berliners into submission, and we flew TONS of food in at great danger to our aircrews.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 10:07 AM
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7. Good essay K&R...I would only add one word.
Edited on Sat Aug-04-07 10:21 AM by bvar22
Paragraph 3:
"I watched Bush ratchet up the hysteria toward Iraq and Saddam. At that time even the Democrats were foaming at the mouth.'

Sentence 2 should be changed to read:
"At that time even SOME Democrats were foaming at the mouth.
The Republicans/Republican Lights are working hard to promote the myth that The Democrats were FOR the War and were duped by Bush*. Your statement reinforces that myth.

At that time a number of Democrats were very vocal in their opposition to the Invasion of Iraq. Byrd and Wellstone were very passionate in their opposition to the invasion.
Unfortunately, the Democratic Party's top tier/Frontrunner was one of the BIGGEST WAR CHEERLEADERS


The Democratic Party Honor Roll
These Democrats should be remembered for their principled stand against the WAR Machine.

IWR

United States Senate

In the Senate, the 21 Democrats, one Republican and one Independent courageously voted their consciences in 2002 against the War in Iraq :

Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii)
Jeff Bingaman (D-New Mexico)
Barbara Boxer (D-California)
Robert Byrd (D-West Virginia)
Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota)
Jon Corzine (D-New Jersey)
Mark Dayton (D-Minnesota)
Dick Durbin (D-Illinois)
Russ Feingold (D-Wisconsin)
Bob Graham (D-Florida)
Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
Jim Jeffords (I-Vermont)
Ted Kennedy (D-Massachusetts)
Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)
Carl Levin (D-Michigan)
Barbara Mikulski (D-Maryland)
Patty Murray (D-Washington)
Jack Reed (D-Rhode Island)
Paul Sarbanes (D-Maryland)
Debbie Stabenow (D-Michigan)
The late Paul Wellstone (D-Minnesota)
Ron Wyden (D-Oregon)

Lincoln Chaffee (R-Rhode Island)


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Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii)
Tom Allen (D-Maine)
Joe Baca (D-California)
Brian Baird (D-Washington DC)
John Baldacci (D-Maine, now governor of Maine)
Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisconsin)
Xavier Becerra (D-California)
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