OFFICIAL ***Thread # 5 House session (they are in a fit)

[rodeodance]

thread 4 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1507127&mesg_id=1507127

[marmar]

1. Thanks Rodeodance.....

I haven't seen anything this contentious since our last family reunion. :)

[ncrainbowgrrl]

3. this is great.

I wish we had sound... I really do....

[rodeodance]

13. you bet. I made this and someone locked my thread before I got back here. I have

very slow dial up

[peacetalksforall]

19. Can anyone quickly explain why the Repubs were screaming - for

someone who can only listen, not follow DU at the moment?

[EFerrari]

59. I think the Thugs tried to get Murtha sanctioned or rebuked

and the Democrats stopped the motion.

In the process, CSPAN replayed the exchange between Murtha and Sensennbrener in question (from this a.m.).

The Thuggery clearly planned to pitch fits all day, imho.

[mzmolly]

41. LOL

I hear ya.

[mikelgb]

2. yay

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. Here we go again. This is amazing teevee, isn't it?

[rodeodance]

7. a Repug just said that the Dem brought SHame to the House, Hoyer said

enough is enough and they are voting to TABLE this Resolution!

[IChing]

18. Can someone give me some of the high or low points?

I've been away today. Any fights, bills passed, jokes?

[in_cog_ni_to]

58. You missed 2 great fights/arguments. Boner had 2 resolutions. The first one was for investigating

what happened last night during the Ag-bill vote and th e2nd one was to censure Murtha for telling Sensenbrenner his opinions were IRRELEVANT while he (Murtha) was chairing the House. Hoyer stood up on the first resolution and told Boner he would accept the resolution to investigate last night's vote because the Dems know they did NOTHING wrong. THEN, when Boner brought up the 2nd resolution Hoyer stood up and said, "Enough is enough!" "I motion to table the resolution." That was adopted and the resolution failed.:)

There was so much more! This has been going on ALL DAY LONG. One fight after another! The repukes are acting like a bunch of 2 years because they aren't getting their way.

Were you here when the voting machines went down this morning? OMG..shit hit the fan!

To say the least, it's been a very entertaining day in the House!

[IChing]

65. I saw it when the Machine broke down but just got home a little while ago

Is it over now? Should I turn it back on?


BTW thanks so much for your time to respond to me.

[in_cog_ni_to]

68. You're welcome! They have adjourned for the night. They will be back at 9:00 A.M.ET tomorrow

:hi:

[karlrschneider]

5. I'm not sure if this is -good- but I'm enjoying the shit outta it!

:evilgrin:

[rodeodance]

16. hey, I was doing the new thread as you wrote the email. Glad you are here.

[bluedog]

6. Come on Nancy.take the Chair/Please!!

[Zodiak]

8. The pukes were acting like a damned pack of animals

Frothing at the mouth and screaming. It was unbelievable!

Such disrespect for the majority.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

22. It scares me to think that some Dems think the way to tame these monsters.....

... is to be nice and sweet to them.

[spanone]

9. boy, repubs are simply assholes. no other way I can put it. ASSHOLES.

[napi21]

10. Oh God! The announcer said they have to get through this FISA bill

and THEN they have to do an energy bill! Damn, they could be in DC until Sept!

[tblue37]

71. Good. If they recess, Gonzo will probably resign suddenly, and then W

will be able to make a recess AG appointment without having to go through a confirmation hearing.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

11. Thanks rodeodance! Can anyone explain why they needed 2/3???? eom

[rodeodance]

21. It was a vote to suspend the rules (they wanted to fast-track the Fisa bill)--but it failed.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

27. Thanks! So they knew it would fail, bottom line. eom

[Ellipsis]

12. Truly is fascinating stuff. n/t

[Jeanette in FL]

14. Totally out of the loop, help please

I have been out of town for business and this seems so intense. What is happening? Can someone fill me in, please?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

25. The big thing was the FISA amendment. Dems had agreed with the Director of Intelligence

and then in the 11th hour, he comes back to them for a provision that would have Gonzo spying on every American. The Dems had the majority of votes but it seems that they needed 2/3 to pass.

There has been a lot of divisiveness especially since last night, when they walked out on the Dems. It started again this morning.

You should read all the threads on this.

Welcome back!

[Jeanette in FL]

36. Thank you

I am looking at the other threads now. Thank you for the recap. I am still reading, but haven't been able to participate lately. Thank you for the welcome back. I love this place.

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. Just so everyone knows what Murtha did..The other day he was chairing the House and told a repuke

his opinion or his input was IRRELEVANT. (paraphrased):7 Now, Boner wants the ethics committee or another special committee to look into his bad behavior.

[bluedog]

23. I think it was today

that Murtha said a sufficient number rose for a count and he was questioned by a Pig.they questioned his authority......and he said something like hes in the chair......It was either Drier or Sessions from Texas

this stuff has been building all day..the Pigs can't let go of power.....and are bring up every little nit picking point of order and such!

[defendandprotect]

24. . . . . but he didn't tell him to "go F-himself," right -- ??????

[rodeodance]

46. almost. He told them he was the Chair and his ruling was not subject to debate. repugs

had a fit this am and are having another today

[EFerrari]

34. It was today and there was no bad behavior. Sensenbrenner

was baiting him just as the thugs have been bating the majority all day.

[spanone]

17. they are debating the senate version on cspan 2

they are all scrambling to give away our rights....the dems just a little, the thugs, whatever junior & gonzo want.

[partylessinOhio]

20. Thank, God, it failed. This is a monumental mistake to expand *'s

powers to wiretap.

The House is completely out of control - Madame Squeaker needs to step down and let someone else takeover and move towards impeachment. It is way past the time that this should have been done.

:thumbsdown:

I strongly suggest she clear her calendar of any future picnics, dinners, and breakfasts with *.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

29. One rethug is with us... care to guess who?

My guesses:
-ron paul
-"freedom fries" (walter jones)

[mzmolly]

56. Why should she step down, the bill failed to pass.

That's a good thing.

[Hepburn]

26. WTF??? Bone-header tried to intro a mx to censure Murtha????

Fuck that asshole from Ohio. Some days, that asshole makes me sooooooooo ashamed to have been born there. :grr:

[rodeodance]

32. good, the motion was adopted.

[rodeodance]

28. They are replaying from this am--with Murtha was PRO=Tem. He did NOT

take any shit from Repugs and the repugs are mad.

[rodeodance]

30. Just listen to that Whinny Sensennbrenner!! (replay from this am)

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. I just heard it. Geez. I thought that happened days ago! LOL! It's been a LONG day with this CRAP.

[in_cog_ni_to]

31. TABLED! hahahahaha!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

33. so, who are the 12 "presents" and 1 "aye" amongst the rethugs?

:thinks:

[rodeodance]

weasal votes

[givemebackmycountry]

35. OK - now it seems that's over -

Lets see what other dirty underhanded tricks these scum have up their sleeves -

OK -

Wait a minute.

It seems they are talking about the Energy Bill -

Is the FISA debate over?

[in_cog_ni_to]

44. Nope. FISA still needs to be passed. They will stall and stall and stall until they get their way.

I hope the Dems cleared the vacation calenders in case something like this happened.

[MonkeyFunk]

37. now Issa

demanding a roll call vote on adjournment?

WTF?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

43. Does he own stock in hair gel?

if not... he needs to look into buying some!

[Hepburn]

54. Issa.......

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[rodeodance]

38. oh my God, A REpug wants to Adjourn (4th or 5th time today)

[mikelgb]

40. looks like the dems this time

[EFerrari]

42. Announcer said it was a Dem and a device to get members

to come to the floor. :shrug:

God, I hope I'm not missing a Giants' game right now. lol

[MonkeyFunk]

45. well

there's already a majority to adjourn.

Does that mean they WILL adjourn, or will al the dems change their votes later?

[EFerrari]

47. Don't ask me. I just clean up around here. I doubt

they will adjourn.

[rodeodance]

50. thanks, I just have been daydreaming.

[EFerrari]

55. Today it's been difficult and confusing to follow the proceedings!

And having the mic cut so many times hasn't helped, either, has it? :hi:

[AnotherMother4Peace]

48. They just can't hang - they're a bunch of wimps. It figures that so many are chickenhawks.

[proud patriot]

49. this has been quite entertaining to watch

I'm taking a break and listening to Malloy now

[Nictuku]

52. Me too

[Hepburn]

51. Sooooo...what did Murtha say that supposedly was so bad?

I mean...what??? He told the truth about something and the Repukes could not handle that?

:shrug:

[rodeodance]

57. there were no nasty words. Murtha just asserted his authority as Speaker-

pro temp and the repugs did not like being dismissed

[EFerrari]

60. Nothing. It's BS. They're claiming that he acted as a participant

instead of maintaining the neutrality of the Speaker.

[Hepburn]

69. Thanks to both of you for the explanation...

...and it sure seems like that asshole Bone-header blew it waaaaay out of proportion.

[rodeodance]

53. I think it shameful that a Repug puts it on record that Murtha has brought SHAME

to the House.

[EFerrari]

61. It's shortsighted and stupid. When we get a bigger majority

they will be so screwn. :evilgrin:

[rodeodance]

62. AP: House rejects Democratic spy bill

House rejects Democratic spy bill


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070804/ap_on_go_pr_wh/terrorism_surveillance;_ylt=AsDPOw42KhGugL7AfluOnr2s0NUE

By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago

WASHINGTON - Congress and the White House struggled Friday over expanding authority to eavesdrop on suspected foreign terrorists in a high-stakes showdown over national security.
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The House rejected a Democratic proposal opposed by President Bush that would give him that authority for only four months. The largely party-line vote in favor of the bill was 218-207, short of the two-thirds majority needed under rules limiting debate.

Senate Democrats, meanwhile, prepared to concede to a bill supported by the White House limiting that authority to six months. It also would allow the director of national intelligence and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to carry out the expanded eavesdropping for four months before a court signs off on it.

The House vote left the bill's fate in doubt.

"I hope that there are no attacks before we are able to effectively update this important act," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee.

[rodeodance]

64. and the HOUSE is gone for the night. Resume Sat at 9 am.

[in_cog_ni_to]

66. SO, tomorrow is the repuke version???? Is that what's going on? THAT BETTER NOT PASS!

[rodeodance]

70. Sheila jackson lee, conyers, pelosi, others surpported this bill, I fear some

more expansive bill will pass now.

[in_cog_ni_to]

63. adjourned until 9:00 A.M. tomorrow! I'll be here! That was a blast to watch!

[IChing]

67. Ok thanks......

[chill_wind]

72. "Larmar Smith: "I just hope there are no attacks...." OR WHAT, Lamar? OR WHAT?!

God, these vicious Bush Cheney replicants NEVER miss their scripted cues.


"I hope that there are no attacks before we are able to effectively update this important act," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee.

The evil never ends!

[bonito]

73. Thanks all of you

This is so important.:toast:

[bob4460]

74. I like this one

"Though written constitutions may be violated in moments of passion or delusion, they furnish a text to which those who are watchful may again rally and recall the people." -Thomas Jefferson, 1802

[rodeodance]

75. Dems in the House and Senate failed to pass tougher judicial checks and oversights:

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Dems in the House and Senate failed to pass tougher judicial checks and oversights:
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3425971#3425971
3425971, Dems in the House and Senate failed to pass tougher judicial checks and oversights:
Posted by rodeodance on Sat Aug-04-07 05:08 AM






http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/04/washington/04nsa.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1186221755-6ylqX5w8PKvuxIJrh8iN2Q


......Broader Spying Authority Advances in Congress

By ERIC LICHTBLAU and MARK MAZZETTI
Published: August 4, 2007

WASHINGTON, Aug. 3 —A furious push by the White House to broaden its wiretapping authority appeared on the verge of victory on Friday night after the Senate approved a measure that would temporarily give the administration more latitude to eavesdrop without court warrants on foreign communications that it suspects may be tied to terrorism.

The House is expected to take up the White House-backed measure on Saturday morning before going into its summer recess.

Democratic leaders acknowledged that the bill would probably pass.

Democrats in both the House and the Senate failed to pass competing measures on Friday that would have included tougher judicial checks and oversight on the eavesdropping powers.