Alcee Hastings just reamed the Rethugs on the house floor

[u2spirit]

The rethugs are piss/moaning about Fisa law. Hastings just yelled at the rethugs for 2 minutes at a fever pitch. It is getting real ugly folks. I wouldn't be surprised to see a fist fight break out by the end of business today.

[rodeodance]

1. Bush backtracks, now says Gonzo approval not needed.

Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject Bush says Congress must stay in session until it passes new spying law
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2940501#2940501
2940501, Bush says Congress must stay in session until it passes new spying law
Posted by Purveyor on Fri Aug-03-07 11:32 AM

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON — President Bush said today that Congress must stay in session until it approves legislation modernizing a U.S. law governing eavesdropping on foreigners.

"So far the Democrats in Congress have not drafted a bill I can sign," Bush said at FBI headquarters, where he was meeting with counterterror and homeland security officials. "We've worked hard and in good faith with the Democrats to find a solution, but we are not going to put our national security at risk. Time is short."

The president said that lawmakers must not leave for their August recess this weekend as planned unless they "pass a bill that will give our intelligence community the tools they need to protect the United States."

Earlier today, the White House offered an eleventh-hour accord to Democrats in the negotiations over the matter, saying it would agree to a court review of its foreign intelligence activities instead of leaving certification up to the attorney general and director of national intelligence.



Read more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003820002_websurveillance03.html

[MiniMe]

4. The "president" can't tell the lawmakers anything they "must" do

Its called separation of powers. He can ask, he can cajole, he can make speeches, he can hold his breath until his face turn blue. But he can't say that they "must" stay in session. In that case, Congress should have been able to end his vacation early because of Katrina, yeah, right.

[mikelgb]

5. read the Constitution

Article II Section 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.

[Karmageddon]

7. Give the Constitution to Bush to read.

he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper

Giving him even more dictatorial powers for no reason other than he wants to get his way on everything is not an "extraordinary occasion".

Maybe when he starts doing this: he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed people might start take him for something more than a schoolyard bully.

[livvy]

8. And don't forget to read the Declaration also....

From the Indictment portion:

Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

Guess we're back to where we started.

[rodeodance]

2. He was responding to Health Wilson----and some TX repug.

[u2spirit]

3. I chose a good week to be unemployed

This is fun stuff on C-Span

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. LOL!

[Hepburn]

6. Good DU thread with info on what is going on:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1504630