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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:01 PM
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How I learned to embrace increased taxation and vaguely comprehend the Republican Mind.
I posted this in reply to another thread on another board, but thought, what the hell....

It's a rant that has a couple of years on it, but with the old Republican saw of "Democrats increase yer taxes!!!" being dusted off just in time for the upcoming political season, I thought I'd trot it out for fun. Enjoy.



One of the many drawbacks to being an artist is that people automatically assume I am an across-the-board, Democratic Liberal. You know; one of those liberal elite, college-educated eggheads with no real world experience who wants to suck the life out of the rich and feed it to the undeserving poor simply because my ivory tower college professors told me so.

Well, in a word, no. You see, I'm a Republican wet dream. I grew up in a family of uneducated poor white trash. I started working at the tender age of 9 to literally help put food on the table by working in the gardens we used to raise our food. When I turned 14, I got an after-school job to help bring in real money to the family for luxuries like heat and lights. I learned, from my inequitably paid, single-working-mother who held down two jobs so we wouldn't have to go on welfare, a work ethic that would make a Calvinist weak-kneed with shame. I put myself through college with a minimum of student loans; choosing instead to work full-time while going to school. After years of intermittent work and school, so as to minimize the amount of loans I had to take out, I received my Masters Degree and have been fairly successful running and managing a very small art business. Occasionally working full-time in order to be a productive citizen and help pay the bills.

Given my life experience I've always understood the concept of: I work hard for my money, I've earned the right to keep it for myself. I shouldn't have to give it to people who don't give me something in return. And I shouldn't have to support people who won't work for themselves.

As I matured I came to realize that it is entirely natural for a 12-year-old to think that way. It's a phase of development that helps a tender ego set boundaries in order to survive the real world with it's basic lack of fairness and predatory users. However, for people who consider themselves adults, it is a puzzlingly shortsighted point of view.

Here are a couple of real world examples. I have a friend M. He is a Republican. He owns a couple of small struggling businesses. He has the requisite wife and two children. His children go to public schools which are paid for with tax dollars. I don't have children. I will never have children. Yet the spouse and I, along with the literally hundreds of childless adults we know, continue to pay our taxes to put his children through 24 total years of school; we pay for the teachers, the buildings, the nurses, the administrators, the support staff and the transportation. We pay for the testing, the special needs programs and the advanced courses implementation. And if they choose to go to a public University, we will support them through those years too.

M. drives a very large SUV, which he uses for a number of trips to his small business concerns every day; by himself. His children ride the buses to and from school. His wife drives to her job and on all her errands; by herself. He drives on the Interstates, he drives on the county roads, he pollutes the air and stresses the pavement along with all the other commuters. Me, on the other hand, I drive into town maybe twice a week to do errands. Spousal unit drives round-trip to work on a tiny country road in a fuel-efficient small truck 4 times a week. Because we have a house and land that need constant attention we tend to stay at home a lot. M. and his family use the roads and pollute the air much more than the spouse and I do and our tax dollars subsidize his families ability to do that. Our tax dollars subsidize him while he and his wife get to deduct their 2 dependents, their multiple business expenses and the interest from multiple loans off their yearly income tax.

Mature adults realize that in order for a family or a culture to survive sacrifices have to be made by each individual. I pay taxes so that M.'s children can go to school and while they're at it they can eat clean meat, breathe clean air and drink clean water. They can use the public library without paying for it. His family can have their volumes of mail delivered to their various businesses.

Yes, I benefit from those things too, but lets pretend for a minute, we were allowed to pay taxes only on the things we used directly so that we could keep the bulk of our hard earned money. Well, the first thing to go would be the entire military. Most of us don't use it. Recently all of our wars have been fought in other countries, for other countries. So I'm not sure about the direct benefit I'm getting from it. I don't have an army private who patrols my acreage at night to keep the raccoons away from the compost. I don't have their earth-moving machines out eradicating the kudzu in my fields. The next thing to probably collapse would be corporate welfare and small-farm subsidies, for much the same reasons.

Those things are necessary for businesses and economy to flourish, the Republicans argue. Things like welfare only support people who choose not to work and don't contribute anything to society. "Welfare supports lazy mothers and their illegitimate offspring." "Welfare supports the old and useless who can no longer contribute."

What they don't seem to realize is that we are not supporting welfare moms. We are supporting the children of welfare moms. The same way I'm supporting M'.s children. Government sponsored programs feed, clothe and maintain the children who are going to grow up and literally run the country. Not the political part. That, of course, is reserved for those in the lucky egg and sperm club; those born to wealth and power and influence. No, I'm talking about the people who go into factory jobs every day to generate income for the CEOs and for the national economy. I'm talking about the guy who's going to fix your Lexus or build your house. I'm talking about the people who literally make this country run.

What a great idea to under-feed and under-educate your future work force. That's brilliant long-term planning. And for what? To keep a few extra dollars in your pocket to buy a new boat? Well, if Bob the Builder is functionally retarded because he was underfed and under-educated how well do think that boat is going to hold up?

Do you want that new boat? Or maybe you want to be a good entrepreneur and reinvest those tax dollars in a new business? Think of all the taxes we spend on the prison system. Think of the billions we would save if would turn all those pot smokers loose. Unfortunately, in the end, it really, really isn't about taxes at all. Its about punishing those you think are wrong or frivolous or unworthy in some fundamental way.

Its like the divorced father who won't pay child support because he thinks the system is unfair. He loses sight of the fact that he's helping to raise the children he helped bring into this world. Children he is, in part, responsible for. He thinks, instead, he is supporting his lazy ex-wife, her partying, her clothes habit and her dalliances with young men. "Why should I pay for that lazy bitch?" he wonders. "It's my money. I work hard for it, I've earned the right to keep it for myself. I shouldn't have to give it to people who don't give me something in return. And I shouldn't have to support people who won't work for themselves." Sound familiar?

And that's when I realized: Republicans are the Deadbeat Dads of society. They benefit from having a cheap labor force, but don't want to provide even the most basic of necessities in order to feed, clothe or educate future generations of cheap labor.

Is our system of taxation perfect? No. And it never will be. But increasing short-term gain at the expense of long-term stability is always a fools game. And that, my friends, is how I learned to vaguely comprehend the Republican mind and embrace increased taxation.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:05 PM
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1. Republicans are the Deadbeat Dads of society.
Great analogy!!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:09 PM
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2. Nice, but you lost track of your own point....
From: "You see, I'm a Republican wet dream. I grew up in a family of uneducated poor white trash."

To: "Republicans are the Deadbeat Dads of society. They benefit from having a cheap labor force,"

How exactly does "uneducated poor white trash" "benefit from having a cheap labor force"?

You would've been better served to instead talk about how the captains of industry played the PWT for fools. Thus, there are 2 of the 3 primary groups of republicans that get bandied about, with the connection between them.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:25 PM
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3. I didn't say I was a republican. (never was) I said I am a Republican wet dream
Perhaps I should have made it plural: Republican's wet dream.

I am the one they always point to and say: "Look, if that child of a tenement farmer's daughter can use those bootstraps to haul ass out of the mud, so can you."

I was first in my extended family to graduate from high school and necessarily the first to go to college. I didn't end up with a factory job, a prison record or a drinking problem. Never went on public assistance, 'though honestly, my mother needed to. There were times when fat-back and biscuits were what there was for dinner.

So, now that I'm all educated and upper-middle class by the sweat of my own brow, I get held up by the 'pubs as a shining example of how the poor should act, of what they can achieve. The tasty carrot at the end of the string that helps those fat bastards work that poor donkey to death.

No, that moniker of "Republican wet dream" is said with spit and venom....trust me. They used up my mother in a factory job, never paid her what she was worth and brainwashed her against even thinking about organized labor.

So, mentally change the possessive and re-read it. Maybe I did lose my point. That'll happen in a rant.

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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 06:55 AM
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18. And I meant to say possessive instead of plural...very late night. n/t
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 07:12 AM
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19. Very good rant
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 07:17 AM by DemReadingDU
Thanks for sharing!

Reminds of this older 2004 rant...
A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican by Donna L. Lavins and Sheldon Cotler
http://linkfilter.net/?s=j;jid=9297

http://tinyurl.com/293zrb

edit to add: I like the last paragraph in the above article, which is not in the article below.


If that link doesn't work, try this
http://www.andreaharner.com/archives/2004/11/a_day_in_the_life_of_joe_republi.html

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:31 PM
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4. When you described yourself as a "Republican wet dream"
Because of your hardscrabble background and later success it made me think of Bill Clinton. Here was a guy who came from an impoverished and broken family, became a Rhodes Scholar, and ascended the political ranks to become the leader of the free world. Isn't he the personification of the American Dream narrative that the GOP pushes? They really HATE people like Bill Clinton and you. You show them up for the privileged silver spoon phonies that they are. And they sure made that clear the minute Clinton got elected. They're the people who were born on 3rd base and act like they hit a triple. And they want to keep it that way. That whole Horatio Alger thing is a myth they like to give lip service to but they don't really want the dirty little urchin to make it. Even worse, some of the less self-absorbed Horatios have a way of getting all these uppity notions about human rights and social responsibility and unions and stuff. Just like you are with your blasphemous talk of progressive taxes! ;)

Sadly, there are an awful lot of Dems in the upper echelons who are the same way. To this day, that's why I think a lot of them didn't go to bat for Clinton as much as they could have when he was being relentlessly hounded during his presidency. He was a bounder who somehow infiltrated their exclusive little bi-partisan elite country club.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:59 AM
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6. George Carver Washington said:
"Success is not defined by what you achieve, but by what you overcome to achieve it."

Georgie B*y is the least successful man I know. If you can call that a man with a straight face.


Yeah, I like Bill Clinton. I liked him more when I figured out our mutual history.

And although John Edwards' early life was not quite so hard scrabble, he saw what factory work did to people. He knows it is a wretched life, especially when they had (and still have in NC) a lot of pressure to keep unions (with equitable pay scales) at bay. A lot of good it did the textile mill workers. The owners stripped all the textile mills out and left the state to find even cheaper labor to exploit.

Thanks for the feedback.






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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:34 PM
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5. K & R
Very good stuff.

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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:14 AM
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7. Thanks, TalkingDog. You eloquently described how I am feeling about taxes.
I don't mind paying my fair share so I can enjoy public transit, maintained roads, help for those more needy than me.

I live in CA and the senate is trying to pass the budget. The Republicans are holding it up with their proposal of even more cuts in welfare, drug treatment programs, and transit.

Driving in my area is a nightmare. Because of that, I decided to take the train to and from work (a one hour trip one-way). The cuts in public transportation might directly affect my ability to use public transportation.

I also worked in a Drug treatment center for a while and saw how much Proposition 36 is needed. This program offers substance abuse treatment instead of incarcerations to nonviolent offenders. Slashing this fund will mean that those offenders will head to jail (which cost money) and might cause many of them to become repeat offenders.

I just shake my head in disbelieve that these Republicans can't see the benefits of helping those in need.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:17 AM
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8. All we have to do is quit feeding the military industrial complex
so much money and also the for profit healthcare insurance company scheme and we could pay for just about anything.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:44 AM
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9. Nicely written!
Thanks, loved the "Republicans as deadbeat dads" analogy.
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:54 AM
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10. Thank you for posting this!
Do you mind if I quote parts of it? I am in the middle of a heated e-mail exchange with (grown) stepson who thinks taxes should be voluntary.

Kid doesn't have a thinking brain cell in his head and buys every piece of rwbs that dribbles out of fox noise. Your arguments are extremely cogent and might just wake him up.

K+R = fabulous!
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:13 AM
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11. So, he's going to refund the public $$ that were paid for his schools? I didn't volunteer to
educate him. And, it looks like it was dollars ill-spent in any case.

And he'll be OK with highways deteriorating, bridges being unsafe, meat being tainted, produce with bacteria, virulently contagious viruses circulating throughout our society, planes falling from the sky, products that kill or injure him, no recourse to the court system when he's injured or wronged, no police protection for himself or his property, no fire protection for himself or his property, no traffic rules enforces, etc.

Voluntary!
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:42 AM
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14. I have raised these points already with him
His mother has raised him as an ornery libertarian. She is still apparently grousing about a New Mexico road improvement project dating back to the 1970s. I have to constantly hear about New Mexico being a "right to work" state. (I am fighting a battle on many fronts here, as you can see!)

I imagine he would be OK with "subscriber" services (fire, police, ambulance, library, etc.), school vouchers, toll roads, and steep admission charges to public parks. If he wants safe food and drinking water, I assume he'll be prepared to pay a premium for those also. He'd better be!

Ayn Rand would be so proud.

And this from a kid who has never actually held a remunerative job!
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:45 PM
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17. Quote away....
I'm not a writer, so I'm not too choosy.

Thanks for the feedback.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:16 AM
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12. K&R Very good!
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militaryWife Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:41 AM
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13. k & r
I will be sharing this. Well said.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 05:46 PM
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15. This paragraph is the one the "school vouchers" enthusiasts need to read:
"Here are a couple of real world examples. I have a friend M. He is a Republican. He owns a couple of small struggling businesses. He has the requisite wife and two children. His children go to public schools which are paid for with tax dollars. I don't have children. I will never have children. Yet the spouse and I, along with the literally hundreds of childless adults we know, continue to pay our taxes to put his children through 24 total years of school; we pay for the teachers, the buildings, the nurses, the administrators, the support staff and the transportation. We pay for the testing, the special needs programs and the advanced courses implementation. And if they choose to go to a public University, we will support them through those years too."

The whole point is that you are not paying property taxes to put YOUR children through school, you are paying to put EVERYONE'S children through school. So if you choose to send your kids to private school, that cuts the expense of schooling kids by, say, one ten-thousandth part, and everyone's property taxes are one ten-thousandth part less. Of course if one out of every ten students goes to a private the school, that cuts public costs by one-tenth, and everybody gets a one-tenth break in taxes. That is the only "refund" or "voucher" which can be justified. Giving parents a voucher to pay for private school tuition is nothing more or less than giving those parents' other peoples' tax money.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 05:48 PM
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16. "Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society."
- Oliver Wendell Holmes, a good Republican.

Works wonders in tax debates. :)
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