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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:16 PM
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Place your bets. Some big homebuilders will start reorganizing or just fail.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:17 PM
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1. Go into repair rather than building structures from scratch
That'll help their field.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:20 PM
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2. Get into the affordable housing game--apartments, rentals, that kind of thing.
Empty nest rentals, out of college rentals, "affordably upscale" rentals....

Repair is definitely a good gig, if they can make THAT affordable, too.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:29 PM
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7. perfect storm
they built crappy houses now they can make money fixing their mistakes!
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:21 PM
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3. There will be some combination of huge downsizing and consolidations.
A lot of people in the housing industry are going to be laid off. I assume some of them will find work as repair/handymen, but overall the housing industry will become much smaller, which implies that a lot of people are going to be out of work.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:23 PM
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4. good. Maybe I can now find someone to do some repairs.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:26 PM
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5. No kidding...
& maybe they'll stop paving the landscape with doll houses on steroids.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:27 PM
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6. doll houses on steroids?

brilliant description - if it is original, a tip of the hat to you. If not, it's still a great characterization of these hideous mcmansions
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 02:39 PM
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13. ha ha that's the more polite description I use...
I've called the mcmansions a LOT of things ever since they started springing up. Disturbed Barbie's Dream Bunkers is another. I also like the term clusterhoods (which I didn't invent) instead of neighborhoods.

I don't understand anyone who doesn't see these houses as physical expressions of decadence and greed. They scream "I got mine." Architecturally these are big bruisers all made up to be cute. The lie is that one can still cling to picket fence fantasies while living in a fortress shielded against the barbarians. Sadly that appeals to people these days.

I studied architecture but it doesn't take that to see that these monsters don't answer the housing needs of most Americans, either aesthetically or practically. They are not sensitive to the environment nor their surroundings. They cost a lot to maintain. There are some going up near me that really could be hotels rather than single-family homes.
Some of these builders can probably make some money retrofitting them for multi-occupant condos.:evilgrin:
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 02:45 PM
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15. dollhouses on steroids--perfect!! LOL
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:26 PM
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16. thanx
:toast: :toast: I can see there are some other non-appreciators of Mcfuglymansions around here today:toast:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:32 PM
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8. A lot of carpenters are going to find out that "Restructuring" isn't an architectual term.
Not to mention the plumbers, electricians, ditch diggers, cement workers, and all the folks who supply, transport, and make the materials that go into home building.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:36 PM
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9. I saw today on craigslist an ad for office stuff -- a mortgage lender
....closing up shop.



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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:38 PM
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10. Yeah, it's already started:
The bad news continues to mount for public builders as Pulte Homes and The Ryland Group, Nos. 3 and 8 respectively in the 2006 BUILDER 100 report second quarter losses. Pulte reported a second quarter loss of $507.6 million for continuing operations. This compares with the prior year second quarter income of $243.9 million from continuing operations. The enormous difference is a result of approximately $749.4 million of impairments and pre-tax charges from land-related transactions along with another $40 million in restructuring charges. Pulte's home building pre-tax loss is approximately $803.2 million, compared with 2006's pre-tax income of $380.8 million.

The Ryland Group is reporting a consolidated net loss of $52.4 million during the second quarter, compared to earnings of $94.8 million for the second quarter of 2006. Ryland says their decrease was primarily due to a "decline in closings and margins" along with inventory valuation adjustments and write-offs. Both companies released their second quarter numbers (ending June 30) shortly after the Wednesday afternoon close of the New York Stock Exchange and both will hold teleconferences Thursday to address their quarterly numbers.
http://www.builderonline.com/industry-news.asp?sectionID=26&articleID=542660
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dollie300 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 02:01 PM
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11. My advice is to invest in senior housing development (condos, apartments)
They are springing up all over Maryland. Folks will be bailing out of their homes in favor of elevator comforts, spacious condo-apartment living, in senior communes with extraordinary amenities.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 02:17 PM
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12. All ready have.
We bought a Condo in Sun City Center, 4 years ago.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 02:41 PM
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14. It would be better to worry about the banks that have financed this oversupply
Because homes that were built with borrowed money that aren't sold don't pay back those loans. Builders are dropping like flys around here, so are real estate agents and appraisers.
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