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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:31 PM
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President Hillary Rodham Clinton
She's about my third or fourth choice but she's a lot more appealing than Guliani, Romney, or Thompson...

I don't think I can take four more years of GOPU misrule...
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:34 PM
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1. "President Hillary Rodham Clinton" has a nice ring to it
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:34 PM
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2. Correction: We can't take four more years of conservative rule
We need someone who's willing to make some tough decisions that may piss off the corporate overlords. I don't think that's Hillary.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:37 PM
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3. Have We Ever Had A President That Wasn't Somewhat Beholden To Monied Interests?
And please don't say FDR...

Like Keynes he wanted to temper, corral, and control capitalism he didn't want to destroy it...

Plus, by most indices working folks did better in the 90's than they are doing now...
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:45 PM
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4. I'm not talking about destroying capitalism
I'm talking about the concerted effort since 1980 (and perhaps 1968) to destroy the middle class and concentrate corporate wealth and power. Clinton was a better President than the Rethugs, but he did his part to keep the process going.

If we don't have a president who can lead from the left, the experience of growing up American is going to change dramatically over the next decade.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:45 PM
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5. Working Wages Peaked In The Early 1970s
And have been heading downward pretty steadily since.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:18 PM
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18. Jimmy Carter.
Which, uh... is why he lost to Ray-Gun.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:25 PM
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20. Well
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 05:25 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Jimmy Carter is the only sitting president to face a strong primary challenge in our lifetime...

And rightly or wrongly, Ted Kennedy challenged him at the behest of the liberal wing of the Democratic party because they felt Carter betrayed them...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:47 PM
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6. So you'll vote for Giuliani's Supreme Court choices?
Or Thompson's? Or Romney's? Yeah, that'll get rid of conservative government.

Vote your choice in the primary. In the general, you're a Democrat or you're not.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:49 PM
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8. The Supreme Court Is "Ruined" For A While To Come
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 04:52 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Scalia, Roberts, Thomas, Kennedy and Ailito are there for decades to come... The best the Dems can do is stem the damage by replacing the older more liberal justices with younger ones...
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:19 PM
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19. False choice
How does advocating for a progressive nominee translate to voting for Giuliani? Of course Hillary will be a better president than any Rethug, but she'd also be worse than just about any other Dem running.

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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:48 PM
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7. Can we just go ahead and start calling her that?
Just to feel better.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:52 PM
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10. I'm A Pragmatist
I would be shocked if "our" candidate wasn't Obama, Clinton, or Edwards... If someone feels differently I respect their right to differ but I would ask that they bookmark this post rather than engage me in some infernal argument about the future...

That being said, those three are light years better than anything the GOPU has to offer...
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:49 PM
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9. She's not my favorite, but AFAIC, she's still a thousand times better
than any Repig POTUS candidate.

:kick:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:55 PM
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12. I Like Obama And Edwards Better But I Am Warming To Her Candidacy...
I think the right wing spin was coloring my negative view of her...

They say there's nothing like an impending execution to focus one's mind , well there's nothing like a GOPU presidential victory to focus one's mind...
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:54 PM
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11. My only choice!
O8)
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:57 PM
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14. mine too n/t
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:56 PM
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13. If she is the nominee, I will support her 100%
I will not, ever, ever, ever do anything that will bring about a Guiliani, McCain, Romney or, God help us, a Fred Dalton Thompson administration. None of those choices is acceptable. Christ, this should be a no-brainer.

Hillary Rodham Clinton isn't perfect. But I will do all I can to elect her if she's the nominee.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:14 PM
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15. I agree she's far better than any of them.
I do,however,worry that we're setting the bar awfully low.If all it takes is to be better than this gang than 99% of DU would make a good President. :)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:15 PM
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16. Ha
If all it takes is to be better than this gang than anybody in the first ten pages of the phone book would make a good president...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:17 PM
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17. I don't know whether to laugh or cry over that statement.
;)
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:33 PM
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23. You haven't been to any of the candidates
Rally's have you? I have seen Kucinich, Biden, Clinton, Obama and Edwards......I have made an informed decision. Kucinich,Clinton, Edwards several times.....

Hillary has the POWER.....power of the Democratic Leaders within the essential states......all the candidates know this and realize she is the one...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:36 PM
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24. Blame Forkboy P- I Was Merely Amplifying What He Said...
But yeah, I think our candidates are basically decent people who would take this nation in a more humane direction and try to heal the rifts in society intentionally created by the Republicans...

Bush* is a divider not a uniter...
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:51 PM
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25. Forkboy has been
a stalker to me....I have him on Ignore. I see he still stalking me. I'll let the Mods know, thank you.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:26 PM
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21. Looks good, and suits me just fine
She's my favorite of all the candidates. Go Hillary :thumbsup: :dem:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:27 PM
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22. Im still holding out hope for President Al Gore or President John Edwards
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