Which do GBLT US citizens deserve to have as a civil right

[LostinVA]

[bicentennial_baby]

1. Stop dressing it up in such

an abstract way!!! x(

That's no fun at all...

[LostinVA]

2. I thought it was nice and direct

As a poll should be.

Interesting that some voters are already saying we don't deserve equality.

[bicentennial_baby]

4. They're starting early this year...

Hope you got a lot of rest over the holidays... x(

:hi:

[LostinVA]

8. I know -- I need some B12 shots

[donco6]

3. It's just a WORD silly!

:sarcasm:

[peacebird]

5. Equal rights with heterosexual US citizens

Same rights, same protections, equality for all American citizens. Regardless of race, sexual orientation, gender, religion, ethnicity.... Regadless of everything. Equal rights.

[terrya]

6. It's MARRIAGE, dammit!

You would think this would be a no-brainer.

[Horse with no Name]

7. This pisses the shit out of me

This should not be a question we should be asking in the year 2007.
My 65 year old mother knows the answer to this one.
Why can't you just enjoy your Constitutionally guaranteed right to pursue happiness...however you choose to do it?
Why do we have to decide which civil rights to give to groups?:mad:

[LostinVA]

10. Thank you, HWNO

:pals:

[Horse with no Name]

19. Backatcha my friend

:hug:

[EFerrari]

53. No kidding. But remember, last year we were debating TORTURE.

Sometimes I feel like I woke up in one of those nightmares where everything looks the same but it's a parallel, evil universe. We need an angry fist smiley. :mad:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. the same ones as heterosexuals.

either we all get civil unionized or married but we deserve the same rights.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

11. Nice simple direct language. No tricks.

Just do you believe in equality or do you believe gays don't deserve equality. I would love to see the poster that thinks gays only deserve civil unions own up to it.

[LostinVA]

13. There IS one Civil Union vote

[Cerridwen]

12. Other -

Every goddess-blessed right "We, the People" have, dammit! It say's "We, the People". It does NOT say "We, the heterosexual People".

I know you didn't ask but I thought I'd do a one size fits all post cause I'm tired of politicians throwing groups under the bus because we've been divided into subsets rather than addressed as People, dammit!

[LostinVA]

23. That's fine!

[mentalsolstice]

14. One for all, or all for one

Either we should all be married, or we should all be civilly united (for legal purposes) and then leave it to the individuals to define their relationship. Either way, equal rights for everyone. Whatever the state decides to call it, the terminology should be the same for heterosexuals and LGBT citizens.

[cboy4]

15. This is such a difficult question which challenges my soul

NOT!!

[bicentennial_baby]

17. you *do* have a way with words, Damien

:D

[cboy4]

26. Thank you sweetheart

[ScreamingMeemie]

16. Equal rights for everyone.

Equal...not the same, but different. Not the "go away if we throw you a bone...it's not your time" type.

[uppityperson]

18. gee, I wonder who the 1 vote for civil unions was.

I dunno.

[rpgamerd00d]

20. Wasn't me.

[uppityperson]

25. why would you assume I thought so?

[cboy4]

27. !!!

:spray: :rofl:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

28. OMFG!!!

:spray:

:rofl:

[LostinVA]

29. giggle

[racaulk]

38. HA HA HA HA!!!

Nice one!!! :rofl: :spray:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

41. Uppityperson hits for critical damage.

[uppityperson]

43. !

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=129094&mesg_id=132830

[rpgamerd00d]

42. Because you did.

[uppityperson]

45. My world does not revolve around you. Quit stalking me.

[donco6]

22. I think that was an "ikki" vote. n/t

[blonndee]

21. Dammit, LostinVA! You're just going to make those homophobes mad and now

they're not gonna LET us get married!

Oh wait...

[LostinVA]

24. That's okay, maybe our marriage rights will be restored -- oh, wait

[joneschick]

30. gee, if they get equal rights

EVERYONE will want them.



dammit, it won't show. cut and paste, it's one of my bumper stickers

[Duncan Grant]

31. Love ya. Mean it. Swear.

:* :hi:

[LostinVA]

33. Back at you

[rpgamerd00d]

32. This is a pretty stupid poll.

Of course the goal would be marriage.

Duh?

Did you need a poll to tell you that?

[sniffa]

34. as stupid as yours?

of course not in your mind.

i'm wondering.... aLthough i'm not quoting you, does my addressing you make you Look better?

:rofl:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

35. Marriage equality.

:hi:

[LostinVA]

36. Hugs, EVOO Man!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

37. Back atcha!

:hug:

[bliss_eternal]

39. I voted for marriage equality.

:hi:
The straight, white, male Judeo-Christians of this country are merely asserting their fleeting dominance with all of this civil union bullshit.

They are afraid because they are no longer the majority in the US. They are desperately clinging to "yesterday" and years gone by when they had laws to protect them in their oppression of others. They are trying to force an entire group of HUMAN BEINGS back in the closet by denying them rights, to comfort themselves in their believed birthright--"dominance and 'deciders' of all."

I remain unimpressed with any of the presidential candidates at this time. To gain my vote they need to stop all this "state's rights" bullshit and get behind doing what's right for human beings, regardless of sexuality. State's rights and civil unions are passing the buck. Passing the buck is bullshit. They don't have to "believe in" or "agree with" gay marriage to support equality. I know I'm preaching to the choir here--but damn, this really upsets me.

Who the hell are they to deny PEOPLE rights?

[LostinVA]

51. Yay! Bliss!

[bicentennial_baby]

40. Marriage Equality for all!

EVOO notwithstanding... :D

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

44. I'm interested to know what four BIGOTS voted in this poll. nt

[blonndee]

46. None with the guts to say so!! n/t

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

47. Typical.

[Nicole]

48. Marriage Equality

They deserve the same thing straight US citizens do. No exceptions.

[Pastiche423]

49. Can someone please

give me the definition of both "Marriage" and "Civil Unions"?

Long ago in a not so far away land, I was "married" by a judge in a civil service. No church. No god. No religion. Is the only reason it was called a marriage, because I am a straight female and he was (probably still is) a straight male?

Btw, I voted for equal rights for all.

[LostinVA]

52. Yeah, that's about it

The "two tiers"/"separate but unequal" thing.

[swimboy]

50. Is this one of them push poles?

:scratcheshead:

:scratchesgenerally:

[Solly Mack]

54. It's not a matter of deserve...equality for all means just that

Equality for all

[LostinVA]

57. I totally agree with you, however

I worded it that way to preemptively stop certain "arguments." This is a civil rights issue, period.

[Solly Mack]

58. I guessed as much

I find it interesting what people think others "deserve"...especially people who have those rights whether they "deserve" them or not...

[LostinVA]

62. Yup -- I totally agree

[mmonk]

55. I voted marriage equality but what does that entail?

[LostinVA]

56. Everyone has the same legal designation of "civil union"

There's not a two-tiered system. It's called one thing, with everyone having the same rights.

[mmonk]

60. In other words, call both marriage instead of separation by semantics?

(just trying to understand).

[LostinVA]

63. It's not just semantics, unfortunately

It's legal status under the law, as conferred by the word used.

But, I get what you mean.

[mmonk]

66. OK, I understand better. I didn't mean anything, I'm just not

well versed on the issue and wanted clarification.

[LostinVA]

68. I know -- no worries!

[mikeytherat]

59. No two-tiered system, no separate but (not) equal - same rights for ALL

Every marriage the same!

mikey_the_rat

[Bassic]

61. Regardless of the argument made for the contrary in other threads,

I think it's clear to anyone with half a brain that homosexuals are being denied the right to marry. To argue that they do have the right to marry, just not to marry eachother is simply another way to perpetuate that discrimination.

The law may not say anyhthing about love, but the fact is that this is what marriage is all about, and this is why people marry. That Marriage allows them access to a whole friggin bunch of advantages. Those advantages are denied homosexuals, because they can not marry. Legally they can marry a person of the opposite sex, but we all know that's not going to happen and that using this as the basis of a legal argument is not only idiotic, it is downright biggoted.


I root for you LostinVA

[LostinVA]

64. You know what, Bassic?

:pals: :pals: :pals:

[Bassic]

67. Right back at ya

:pals: :pals: :pals:

:)

[sweetheart]

65. Full equality in all matters of law

... along with all other minority groups.

[Midlodemocrat]

69. The exact same rights as heterosexuals.

All of them.