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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:54 PM
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Breaking: This is Hugh 111. Media picks our candidates and frames the debate. They will tell you who
to support and vote for and after you have voted they will tell you why you did so. They will do this regardless of who you REALLY voted for and why. When the vote is stolen via source code they will not even acknowledge it of course, but will cite their previous corporate fascist shilling as to why we have more of the same shills but in different clothing.

Beware of corporate run polls and support the person who best represents your world view.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:56 PM
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1. Always do
and rarely are they the "chosen" one.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:57 PM
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2. Well, duh! n/t
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:59 PM
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3. I don't recall them picking Kerry.
Dean was getting significantly more media coverage until Iowa went to Kerry in the primaries.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:03 PM
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4. Dean still got more coverage afterwards, ala the "scream...." Oh. Yeah.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:10 PM
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6. That would be true.
My point was that many people want to blame the media for "choosing" our candidates for us, when the perfect example disproving that theory is as close as the '04 primaries. Kerry was largely an afterthought in the media through much of the run-up to the primaries and didn't gain much traction in the media until he surprisingly (to many) won Iowa.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:09 PM
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5. I beg to differ. Dean was according to cmsm a "internet phenomenon". Kerry was the early "favorite".
And as another poster said they then tore into Dr. dean for the "scream" which as you may or may not know was edited for background noise filtering and played ad nauseum to humiliaye him.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:21 PM
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7. Based on what? The early polls had Lieberman in the lead, of all people.
Dean eventually gained the lead and maintained it through much of the pre-primary season. His early leads in many primary states were huge, and many were declaring them unassailable. If the media was so gung-ho on Kerry, why was Dean is the lead for so long?

As far as the scream is concerned, it didn't even happen until Dean lost Iowa, so that had zero effect on anything that happened prior to the first primaries.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:57 PM
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8. Perception is everything. Dean was not a cmsm darling but rather a grass roots phenomenon. The media
set out to coronate dlc candidates such as kerry Lieberman etc. Once Dr. Dean showed grassroots strength and who byt hte way was anti war then as he is now, they destroyed him through their echo chambers.

My point is essentially to disregard their "framing" and support the person whom best represents your personal values and judgments, whomever that may be. In other words, forget out pragmatism and focus on principles.
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