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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:31 PM
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UN Report: Livestock one of top 2 or 3 contributors to most serious environmental problems


Summary: This report aims to assess the full impact of the livestock sector on environmental problems, along with potential technical and policy approaches to mitigation. The assessment is based on the most recent and complete data available, taking into account direct impacts, along with the impacts of feed crop agriculture required for livestock production.
The livestock sector emerges as one of the top two or three most significant contributors to the most serious environmental problems, at every scale from local to global. The findings of this report suggest that it should be a major policy focus when dealing with problems of land degradation, climate change and air pollution, water shortage and water pollution, and loss of biodiversity.
Livestock’s contribution to environmental problems is on a massive scale and its potential contribution to their solution is equally large. The impact is so significant that it needs to be addressed with urgency. Major reductions in impact could be achieved at reasonable cost.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:43 PM
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1. Now wait just a damn minute
Are you implying that our attempts at molding a species or two, increasing at the DNA level, in a direction that is designed to benefit only us, has adverse affects? Is that what is trying to be said here?

I don't buy it. That would mean our entire way of life is the problem. That would mean that we all can't have everything. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing it.

Look, we have to control and design nature to fit us. God told us we could, and science gives us the ability to do what God told us. If that's not validation, I don't know what is. Nature is our enemy, and we have to destroy it to save ourselves, or else we're all going to die at some point.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:07 PM
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3. "That would mean that we all can't have everything." BINGO.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:21 PM
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4. Try telling that to everyone else though
The wealthy want and can get everything. The middle class has as much right to anything the wealthy have. The poor have a small voice, so portions of the wealthy and middle classes speak for them, and so the poor have as much right to anything the middle class has, who in turn have as much right to anything the wealthy have. So we're stuck in this ever increasing loop that has everyone chasing what isn't there, to a destination that nobody seems to know the location of. Everyone wants their temporary fix of happiness. Maybe we can make a pill for it.
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:12 PM
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5. Man vs. Nature IS one of the 8 or so different plot lines we learned in high school English...
Only when it seems like we're winning, we're really losing.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:45 PM
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2. We need to return
to more responsible agriculture.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:21 PM
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6. i'm reeasonably certain that i will be eating steak for the rest of my lifetime...
let the next generation figure it out after i'm gone, if that's what they'd like to do.
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:36 PM
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8. What's the point of that commentary?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:26 PM
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9. things aren't going to change much in the next couple of decades, anyway.
too many of us enjoy our steaks.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:29 PM
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10. Change in what sense?
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 02:29 PM by nam78_two
Some consumer choices may end up being forced on us you know...

(Oh and I don't mean by "evil" govt regulation).
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:57 PM
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15. you tell me....i said that they AREN'T going to change much...
at least not in my remaining lifetime.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:07 PM
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17. Well you said they aren't going to change
I couldn't get if you were speaking with regard to climate change.. Are you saying tat there will be no noticeable changes in our lives due to climate change?
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:34 PM
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12. And too many of us enjoy our Hummers, and our 4,000 sq ft homes.
So are you saying you don't care, you're lazy, you're happy to let your (and everyone else's kids) deal with the destruction, or what?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:55 PM
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14. i don't have kids, and i enjoy red meat.
and plan to continue eating it as long as it's available.

which i predict will be for quite awhile yet- no matter how much "scary" propaganda the vege-nazis want to fabricate.
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:06 PM
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16. Vege-nazi?
I didn't write the article.

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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:54 PM
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13. I seriously doubt that
Unless you have your own ranch, or you only live another 10 yrs or so. Between global warming and energy depletion, farming for meat production will become extremely expensive within the next decade. It's hard to grow a lot of meat when your fields are hot and dry, diesel starts costing $5/gal, and fertilizer prices start skyrocketing.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:23 PM
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7. Proud to be vegetarian
20 plus years! :hi:
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:30 PM
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11. Too late..Oh well no Rec. :-/ but here is a kick
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 02:30 PM by nam78_two
:kick:
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:31 PM
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18. Cow Farts = Global Warming
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