Cindy Sheehan did something amazing this morning:

[mudesi]

She got CNN's Kiran Chetry to say the following words: "Impeach President Bush".

Okay, so in context it was really "Cindy Sheehan says she will run against Nancy Pelosi if Pelosi doesn't move to impeach President Bush".

But the point is that someone on a mainstream media network put impeachment out there in the airwaves. Not having the votes, not having enough time, not having this or that or any other excuse simply does not cut it.

Putting impeachment on the table means moving support for it from 45% to 65% to 85%, because Americans will begin to talk about it on their porches, over coffee, at the water cooler, and Americans will easily conclude the obvious truth that we here at DU all know: That it is imperative that this president and vice president be impeached.

Already almost half of Americans support it. What are the Democrats waiting for? If the public supports it, the votes will be there.

Thank you, Ms. Sheehan.

[KittyWampus]

1. sorry, this just gives the mediawhores another opportunity to gleefully talk about how Dems are weak

and excuse Bush and the GOP for the mess THEY MADE.

[yurbud]

4. uh...if Dems never do anything, never take any risks, what exactly would you call them?

How many elections in a row do you think they can win simply by not being republicans?

And on many economic issues like trade, they ARE republicans.

[KittyWampus]

5. Dems "never do anything"? Just cause Mediawhores don't report what Dems are doing doesn't mean

they never do anything.

It just means you are uniformed. Like a lot of DU'ers.

[yurbud]

9. could mediawhores blackout impeachment hearings?

I know Democrats are doing investigations, but so far, they are just licking around the edges of what the Bushies have done, and frankly, they insult our intelligence when they say they aren't certain Bush has committed impeachable offenses.

Bush publicly admitted breaking the FISA law.

His White House counsel signed off on a memo allowing torture.


His Secretary of Defense wrote a memo with a list of approved torture methods that were posted at Abu Ghraib.

If Bush did not approve that ahead of time, he nonetheless failed to fire either of them when their actions became a matter of public record.

The Plame affair alone is worthy of impeachment.

Let's face it, Democrats don't want to offend the people behind Bush, the oil companies, the defense contractors, and financial institutions that only disapprove of Bush's failure not his goals.

If you have a morally defensible alternative explanation for what they are doing, I'd like to hear it.

[KharmaTrain]

11. A Lot Of One-Note Singers Here

This is just what the corporate media loves...another round of Cindy Sheehan bashing...and with the added bonus of taking nasty shots at Nancy Pelosi, Democrats and us "fuckin' hippies". As always, the message gets overshouted by the cartoon images the corporate spinners have created...and surely Cindy will be the catalyst to create a diversion frenzy...in essence, pulling people's attention away from the causes Cindy believes in rather than bringing her and our goal of ending this illegal invasion now.

For those who say she's an "attention whore", I say she's the opposite...an attention magnet...whatever she says will be twisted, spun...used to divide and embarass Democrats and make her and those who support her as "moonbats". People here will howl, but haven't we been down this road before. Ane now Cindy gives the spinners and talking heads (the real attention whores) ammo that is very counterproduction. And as you say, a lot of DU'ers here can't see a bigger picture...they can't differentiate policy and politics vs. personal and personality.

[mudesi]

18. Why are you so afraid of the fight?

Ms. Sheehan is doing what the Democrats ought to be doing. I wonder whether or not the Democrats will finally end the war in September, let alone put impeachment on the table.

If the Democrats don't want the media to spin things, perhaps they should start doing what they were elected to do. The people are behind them. What are they waiting for?

[KharmaTrain]

20. Nice Projection...

Should I post the number of donations I've made to Gold Star Mothers or other groups that have been fighting the fight? Should I document the hours I've put in over a lifetime working for Democratic candidates and Progressive causes? Let's not get personal here, OK?

So you're proposing we find a DeLay...a hammer...turn the Democratic Party into a one-note, one issue party? And you're gonna do this with whose votes? Instead of punishing Repugnicans who brought this invasion and the destruction of our country, you prefer to take out Democrats? It's Repugnicans who are obstructing...investigations, votes and passage. There aren't 17 Repugnicans in the Senate with the spine to stand up to this regime and THAT'S why this war will go on and on...why impeachment won't turn into conviction and achieve what you want...immediate removal of this cabal. Sorry, Washington doesn't move on a dime...and to think it will will run you into walls over and over again. All I'm doing is taking a step back and looking for ways to exploit the current situation and work to bring down more Repugnicans next year so we don't have the obstructions we have now and that we can get real, true justice...that ALL the criminals in this enterprise are brought to justice.

Sadly, the Democrats don't control the corporate media...they don't have the dominance of hate radio or sit on Editorial boards and Executive Producers desks. They can't offer the perks, the access...and they're seen as a threat, not an ally. People be damned as these goons have long lived in the Big Lie...and still believe they shape the opinion, not visa versa.

Ms. Sheehan has done a great job in bringing awareness about Iraq at a time when few would dare...and I still admire and salute her for that stand. While she's worked to bring a lot of people together, she's also become polarizing and a threat to the status quo...and with it has brought the scorn of the corporate media that now only looks to use her as a foil...especially when he attacks those who stand closest to her own views and gives a smokescreen to those who need to be held accountable.

Iraq is one of many fires burning...we've got an out of control regime that has destroyed the middle class with far more devestating affects...as well as beltway elite that profits from both this illegal invasion and the divisiveness its caused. So are you proposing Democrats become fixated on just one issue? Then what would it be? Iraq? Impeachment? And then who do you impeach first? Go after boooshie and end up with Cheney?

Right now Washington is in gridlock...anything Pelosi passes out of the House gets shot down or blocked in the Senate. This will remain the case until there are 10 more votes that shut down any cloture votes or, in my dreams, 17 votes that would mean conviction in an impeachment.

Now you can go after Democrats with Cindy, but I'm already working on helping various Democratic candidates to ensure a larger majority and for a Democratic Executive...making the immediate end of the Iraq fiasco a reality and the prosecution of this regime's crimes...ALL of them...possible.

Peace...

[erpowers]

25. Great Post

I am surprised that so many people at this website are upset with the Democrats. Many people seem to not be looking at what the Democrats can and cannot actually accomplish in congress. In terms of ending the war I have done a number of posts telling people the Democrats have very little power in terms of ending the Iraq war in that they cannot override any of Bush veotos. No matter what Bush will just continue to veto Democratic bills and the Democrats will not be able to override the veto. So the two main solutions is to elect more Democrats and elect a Democratic president.

[KharmaTrain]

31. Each Vote Is One Step Closer...

Thank you for your post and support. It gets a little tough trying to keep a toehold in reality here, but its needed to be said...no matter how unpopular it is. If a friend can't tell you, you think your enemies will?

I firmly support Senator Reid's one redress he has here...using the agenda to bring up vote after vote to further marry the GOOP with this invasion. I'd love to see ads in Minnesota next year saying "Normie voted 10 times to keep the troops in Iraq"...that'll truly be his death-knell. Or, like immigration, play the GOOP game of wedging one side of their corrupt party against the other...and, whenever possible, force them to vote to support their manchild and his failed agenda.

While we may not get many things accomplished this way, NOW...and nothing appears to be fast enough for many here...the chances to remake this country in a positive direction haven't been more possible than in any time in the last 30 years. You know the path...I don't begrudge those who are impatient here...I appreciate their passion and look at our family spats here as an opportunity to learn as much as fight.

Cheers...

:toast:

[Marrah_G]

33. That is because a good number have a limited knowledge of how congress works

Unfortunately those who know the least tend to yell the loudest. No matter how many times you try to explain things they will just continue to scream "I want it right now. NOW, NOW, NOW."

I suggest they start an "Independants for Cindy" website and can bash the party over and over on their own bandwidth.

[AndyTiedye]

24. The Mighty Slime Machine Does That To Anyone Who Rocks the Repiggie Boat

[KharmaTrain]

32. Unfortunately Cindy Feeds That Beast

When she drifts off the Iraq issue...representing the thousands of families that have been destroyed by this illegal invasion and steps into the political world or international stage, she's hurting her and other family's causes by giving the "Mighty Wurltizer" some new sheet music. For all her best intentions, when he strays from the message of a grieving mother, she diverts attention from the most important moral issue she has.

[Norquist Nemesis]

7. tsk tsk tsk The mediawhores are going to do that anyway

and when the Dems DO something, the mediawhores compete over how many times they can repeat the WH "political theatre" characterization.

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. But the Dems ARE weak!

The war still rages on and they voted to continue funding it. A criminal is in the White House and they took impeachment off the table. Our elected Dems are refusing to abide by the will of the people. Pelosi called the president a "nice guy" not long ago.

It's way past time the Dems we elected held the GOP and bush accountable for the mess they made.

[baldguy]

23. The Dems ARE weak

The difference is: weakness in support of Bush is a virtue - after all, Bush has and is committing an endless series of crimes.

Weakness in support of removing him is an abdication of Congressional responsibility - it allows him to continue his crimes. I'm all for the media talking about that.

[Buzz Clik]

2. That will be her single contribution if she does, indeed, challenge Pelosi.

[yurbud]

6. that's the point. She seemed to seriously consider challenging Feinstein

which probably made her realize she had to at least publicly distance herself from the war.

[babylonsister]

16. She 'contributed' her son. nt

[Buzz Clik]

27. That's pretty selective reading, sister.

She's made lots of contributions in lots of ways, the greatest of which, of course, was the loss of her son.

My comments were in the context of this thread.

[johncoby2]

3. How stupid.

[mudesi]

19. Why? (nm)

[Beelzebud]

21. Yeah, how dare she do this to our beloved George Bush?

Stupid, indeed.....

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. Yes glad to see you get it

It's called strategy. And so far, it seems to be working.

[snappyturtle]

12. From reading the above responses I'm confused.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cindy Sheehan doesn't have more name recognition than Nancy Pelosi. Cindy is bringing the impeachment issue to the table. I don't understand how that makes the Dems appear weak or that it is a stupid idea. It well may be the impetus needed.

Dems appear weak when they brush off impeachment with lame excuses. Time to take the bull by the horns and find out where the issue really stands. imho

[Fire Walk With Me]

13. The only way for government to be wrested from the grip of corporate puppets

is for the people of the country to do it themselves.

Of course, the corporations will fight back to retain their feedbag.

Rock on Cindy. You and Gore are the voices of the country's people. Let the country's politics be changed to reflect the needs and desires of the people.

Edited for spelling.

[Mabus]

17. Bingo. Cindy continues being proactive

Time and time again I see people voicing their disappointment that Congress isn't working on the right issues or that Congress isn't moving fast enough on others. I see people complaining that their own representatives are non-responsive on issues they care about. There is a lot of talk about how active people are and yet Congress and the media just aren't paying attention. Well, imho, Cindy is doing the right thing: She's proactive. She's doing what we should all be doing.

What I mean is: Do something. If you don't like what your government is doing you can use your vote to elect the person you believe will do something. Let's say that after the person you voted for is elected you find that you didn't get what you thought you were getting in a representative then one of the options that you have is to run for office yourself.

If nothing else, Cindy's candidacy will bring some issues to the forefront and start the conversation about them. And real conversation and real debate about the issues is something that is sorely lacking these days. Conversation and debate in D.C. starts with people who are willing to make unpopular decisions at the right time.

I agree. Cindy and Gore are the voices of the people. Now, if we could just get Al to put his hat in the ring.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Your OP is getting rave reviews

here at Camp Casey! We are packing up and getting ready for the long ride home, and I just read this to several here. There were cheers!

You rock!! :yourock:

[babylonsister]

15. You bet she did, and I'm proud of her and grateful she's still plugging

away.

[Perky]

22. Got he head out of her ass?

[Forkboy]

28. That's just insidious and mean-spirited!

Boy,I hope you're not like this in real life or anything. ;)

[Perky]

29. rofl

touch'e

[EFerrari]

26. Yes, that was amazing.

:)

[PVnRT]

30. So

Now, not only is Cindy the sole force behind the antiwar movement, she's also responsible for bringing about impeachment. Is she curing cancer too, or is that next year?

[robinlynne]

34. yes! absolutely so.

[midnight]

35. She needs to be credited for creating dialog

in this country that just has not been addressed by the T.V. spokes models. Thanks Cindy.

[ComerPerro]

36. not really all that amazing. Its not the first time the media has reported on efforts to impeach