I have to ask...anyone else experiencing this? "Hearing" nature?

[BeHereNow]

At the risk of sounding like a complete lunatic- I have
to report that I have been having some REALLY strange experiences
in relation to the critters, fur, insect and plant life around me.

First, let me preface this with the fact that I happen to believe that all living things
are connected and that somewhere along the way, we lost our ability to
"hear" other living beings. I include all living things in that category.

Without going into specifics, I am curious to know if anyone else
has had recent unexpected communication from the non-human life in
their immediate environment.

And no- I am not crazy.
I happen to believe that people who do not understand this concept
of all living things are.

BHN

On edit- I have been studying the Kogi Indians of Columbia for some time now-
I have to wonder if this is a factor in my recent experiences.

[MonkeyFunk]

1. My dog's been very gassy today

You think it could mean something?

[BeHereNow]

3. I see your dog takes after you.

bhn

[MonkeyFunk]

4. You can smell

that over the internet?! :scared:

[BeHereNow]

9. No, I was referring to your tendency to gassing off on DU.

BHN

[MonkeyFunk]

53. ah

then use your super-spidey hearing to hear this:

[emilyg]

2. I don't think you're crazy

a tiny bit more detail please

[BeHereNow]

8. Okay- at the risk of sounding completely nuts.

Three times in the past few days- I suddenly KNEW an insect was drowning in the
pool out back.
Each time, I went out back, and sure enough, on all three occasions
I saw a bee fighting for it's life.
I rescued all of them.

Tonight, when I came home and opened the gate to my house
I destroyed a beautiful spider web. I felt terrible, knowing how hard
the spider had worked. I was overcome with remorse and felt
an urgent need to apologize to him. I also told him that
the location was not good and suggested one of my french windows.
An hour later, there was a web started there and the other web was
completely gone.

All of my fur creatures have been unusually affectionate-
And I swear I can "hear" them, if that makes any sense.

I know, it sounds crazy, but the other night, I saw a water bug
scurring across the floor of my studio- my first instinct was to
place him outside; I NEVER kill anything. As I approached him with
an empty tissue box for transportation outside, I suddenly sensed his fear
and knew he only came in for water. I backed off and he
went about his business of crawling in my shower and getting a drink.

Like I said, I can't explain it, but I have this incredible new
sense of compassion and understanding for ALL living things-
Including a sick oak tree in the front of my house which
I swear is asking for the diseased branches to be cut back.

I have always felt close to nature- been a vegetarian
since I was twelve, but this is something different.

And no- I am not crazy.

BHN

[loudsue]

36. Interesting!

I was struck by lightning in 2000 (August), and ever since then, I communicate with the critters....lightning, too, and wind.

I think we're supposed to.

[BeHereNow]

41. Yes, we ARE supposed to. Please take a look at the Kogi links on this thread.

BHN

[Vanje]

63. kogis?

Those very personal exerises women can do anywhere?

[rhiannon55]

156. lol

:spank: that's just TOO funny!

[emilyg]

82. Bravo

I don't kill bugs or eat meat. Feel a sense of connection to everything that's living. Often I have this kind of communication with my cats.

[Dervill Crow]

92. Saturday morning a voice woke me up saying, "Mom, something smells good."

My Amstaff was staring at me intently and my husband had left a scone and a latte on my nightstand. There was no one else around. The goodies had been there awhile because the coffee was lukewarm.

I asked both my sons if they had said anything to me, so either I had a waking dream or Daizie told me to wake up and share my scone with her. I "talk" to her in pictures as well as words, so I wonder if she has learned to talk with me.

On edit: I talk to Daizie in MENTAL pictures. I don't draw for her; I'm a lousy artist. She doesn't like my singing, either. Bully breeds are noted for being music snobs.

[roguevalley]

126. you aren't crazy. you have empathy. you get it from being close to

nature. you notice things you missed before. its part of your humanity asserting itself. I am very, very glad for you. you are blessed.

[librechik]

146. you are just fine. Just more sensitive than most.

We need better listeners in this world. I'm glad you are here, Be Here Now.

[wildhorses]

5. yes, i have 'communed' with animals.

actually, understand them better than most people.

on edit: i would think that, yes...studying indian ways have taught you how to use your 'ears'.

[Truthiness Inspector]

6. You are not crazy

but I don't have any recent experiences to share.

I do know what you mean, though.

[EFerrari]

7. I don't think I know what you mean by "unexpected".

/ack

[Truthiness Inspector]

10. Didn't you hear the one about the chicken who crossed the road?

He said "ouch." Unexpectedly.

(Not trying to make fun of the OP, as nature does talk to us if we just listen.)

[BeHereNow]

14. I agree completely, and I think that is what is wrong with the earth today- we stopped listening.

http://www.taironatrust.org
Kogis.
BHN

[BeHereNow]

12. Upthread I posted about bees drowning in my pool.

By unexpected I mean, out of the blue- I KNEW
something was crying for help and I "saw" in my mind
that it was in the pool.
All three times, there were bees drowning.
I was in the house puttering on each occasion and
WHAM- it just came to me- like I "heard" their
cries for help.
I don't think it's a bad thing, just a strange new thing.

BHN

[EFerrari]

17. I've always had that channel ON, I don't know why or how.

I guess that's not much help.

[screembloodymurder]

108. Chances are there are always a few insects in your pool.

If they're not wearing bathing suits, they're probably drowning.

[Eurobabe]

11. I don't think you are crazy...

Last summer when we had our horrible two week heat wave in Europe, I could swear I heard the trees screaming. Seriously. For 2 weeks the temps soared to near 100, and the chestnuts withered up, turned brown and never recovered. Every living piece of green was gasping. Conversly, I feel that the plant life is very happy and satisfied when it is cool and rainy. Like some kind of buzz is emanating from the forests. This summer, everything is lush and green, and the plant life and animals are happy, no prolonged heat -- so far. :D

I took a course in college on Environmental Ethics, one of our project required that we each had to adopt a tree on campus and write in a daily journal about it. I wrote about a mature maple that I was very fond of, it was one of the first trees to show fall colors in late August.

Am I a treehugger, you betcha! :hi:

[BeHereNow]

13. That's like my oak tree out front.

I swear I hear it moaning. It is sick.
Branches drying and one actually fell the other day.
The damned city has done nothing about it despite
my many calls to them.
I feel terrible for that tree.
She is a BEAUTY, but most certainly sick.
BHN

[Eurobabe]

15. I like to think the more spiritually evolved people are

the more they are able to tune into the vibes of everything on the planet. By spiritually evolved, I don't mean members of organized religion either.

[BeHereNow]

26. The Kogi would agree with you about "organized religion."

They were one of the few tribes to survive the invasion of
the "Christians."
Please do read about them-
http://www.taironatrust.org

They tried to warn us about the earth dying
twenty years ago.

BHN

[Clark2008]

170. I've actually heard trees "speak," as well, but I have to admit

I'm perplexed as to why you would expect the city to do anything about your oak tree.

Have they overcut it for utility wires or something? Other than that, I would think its care would be your responsibility.

[BeHereNow]

172. It's on our parkway- city property, supposedly "protected" life.

Legally, we are not allowed to do anything to the tree-
However, given the lack of interest by the city, perhaps I shall anyway.
I sincerely doubt anyone from the city would notice.
Unfortunately, we do have neighbors with WAY too much time on their hands
who apparently delight in reporting others for violations of code.

BHN

[Dogmudgeon]

16. Well, what are you experiencing?

There are a lot of things that could be happening -- and all at the same time. Not just the craziness and delusion and hallucination we're quick to ascribe to non-linguistic communication, but actually picking up on things most people put out of their minds.

I've been very prone to so-called "mystical" experiences all my life. I have (among other things) frequent sleep paralysis, which may have a genetic component, and is thought to originate in the brainstem. My way of dealing with the flood of strange experiences has been to disbelieve any theoretical conclusions I come to, and redouble my efforts to report the experiences -- write them down -- as "journalistically" as possible. Imposing our culture's fears and beliefs on my experiences is like adding a layer of lies to them. But perhaps, just perhaps, if I report on what I've experienced honestly, there may be some value within it -- at least for my own sanity.

If you're having unusual mental experiences, keeping a journal may help you make sense of things. If you're developing a bona-fide psychiatric disturbance, you will probably be able to see it coming on. But if you're becoming sensitive to out-of-the-ordinary perception and intuitions, you will likewise be able to better identify what's happening.

Good luck with it, whatever it may be.

--p!

[BeHereNow]

19. I have kept dream journals all my life-

And am well versed in psychiatric episodes- this is NOT psychosis,
of that I am certain, more like an elevated consciousness.
That is what the Kogi have been trying to elicit from the rest of us.
Can't help but wonder if my studying them has somehow triggered it all.
BHN

[pitohui]

163. pgwidgeon are you familiar w. barbara walker?

it has been some while since i read her book, think it was diary of skeptical feminist, about her experiences w. goddess and her visions -- and her level headed response to it -- and your post reminds me a bit of her

a journal is always good, you can see where the dreams/visions/intuitions actually come to offer something of value -- and when/if they are just degenerating into something negative

great advice in my view, altho i could never keep up a dream journal myself because my dreams are too long and rambling

[Mojorabbit]

18. Are you talking about

behaviour patterns? I do wildlife rehab and can get a real good sense of what is going on medically with the animals after years of working with them. I just "know". I think it is a combo of subconsciously noticing patterns and a kind of "sensing".

When I worked as a nurse I could tell sometimes when someone was going to pass on even as all the tests and physical condition improving said otherwise. I had docs pay attention when I said it after the first few times and was right. I just knew
somehow that something was off.

I spend time outdoors most every day and listen to the hum of my beehive. I watch the birds. I know when a hawk is in the yard by the certain alarm call the squirrels outside make. I know the eagle is in the tree next door when the crows go crazy. I spend a lot of time observing.

There is an inner voice if we listen to it.

[BeHereNow]

20. More like "hearing" them.

I too, am accutely aware and study the life of all beings around me.
Suddenly, I am HEARING them, not like language, but like what it is
they are trying to accomplish; how they fit in the web of life and how we are
all dependent on one another.
Did I say that right?
BHN
On edit- I am also overwhelmed with unbelievable compassion for them-
even the drowning bees, which I am allergic to.

[Mojorabbit]

29. I think I get what you are saying

I had a similar experience after a hurricane uprooted three of my majestic oaks. It is hard to put into words what I sensed from the injured ones left.

[shadowknows69]

37. Ever get into deep meditation BHN?

Or know how to put yourself in an "Alpha" state? I used to meditate and ground myself in a local park. Which is an amazing place of power actually and is actually rumored to have some kind of "dimensional" vortex in it.

I used to be able to get to a point where I would see all organica objects as almost pure energy. More accurately I was seeing auras so strong that they covered the object and were sometimes opaque.

The trees used to tell me of the history of things there. Birds left energy trails in the sky. See if you can't get your extraordinary "sight" to work in conjunction with what you're hearing. Take note of how animals look that you feel are in distress.

[BeHereNow]

40. Where are you? Vortex...

I have been in two of those places in my life.
One in Indiana and another near Joshua Tree.

I know EXACTLY what you are talking about.
And yes, trees DO tell the history if you are listening.

Unfortunately, or perhaps not, the "alpha" state has
tendency to hit me out of the blue, in both waking and sleeping hours.
Fly in your dreams much?
BHN

[shadowknows69]

42. Thompson Park NY believe it or not, in Watertown

probably more of an urban legend but It was apparently listed in a book somewhere of places of power. Vortex or not there have always been powerful forces in the woods around here. Some very, scary. Some in houses too. I've seen some shit my friend.

[BeHereNow]

44. Don't be afraid.

All energy is only trying to reach the light.
If you encounter something that frightens you,
encourage it to seek the light and yes, the sage helps.
BHN

[shadowknows69]

47. I've been knocked unconscious by a spirit

muddled with some channeling, of a sort too, not always good. There are several layers to the spirit world. Some aren't and probably never been human.

[conscious evolution]

56. I was in the center of a vortex this weekend.

Went to a boogie this weekend that was located on an old Native American meeting place.I could feel the energy as soon as I arrived.Very incredible experience.

[shadowknows69]

45. What you describe about waking dreams and such

is very familiar too. I don't fly much actually but my dreams are almost always set in the same locales, which I feel like I recognize but know that I've never been to in my material life anyway. Inever remember much of my dreams anymore but bits of them hit me hard later. Something is going on here. I suspect we've travelled many of the same paths through time BHN.

[BeHereNow]

48. And the compassion towards all living things is because we SHARE that path with them.

And so it is.
Somehow...I think "remembering" these truth that have been
sleeping in us is intended to help us get through the nightmare
that has fallen upon the planet, courtesy of the BFEE.
Strangely, I'm no longer afraid of them.
I remember a truth from somewhere that says
fear only makes darkness stronger.
Let's stop being afraid and focus on the light.
I think we are going to need it, sooner than later.
Maybe that is what this is all about.

BHN

[shadowknows69]

49. It is time to gather allies.

In flesh and spirit.

[BeHereNow]

51. I could not agree more.

On that note- I say we go to dream land and like the Kogi,
pray for the healing of all life.
BHN

[Justpat]

77. .

Read the book: The Language of Miracles, by Ameiia Kinkade.
You won't feel crazy.

She has been communicating with animals for a long time and talks about
eveything you spoke of here.

It is a good book. She explains how the communication between species works.

[The Backlash Cometh]

128. My squirrel story:

Squirrel wouldn't stop his alarm call, so I came out to see what it was all about. Instead of shutting up, he became more urgent the closer I got to him. I couldn't figure out what was bothering him and just got tired of looking. Then I noticed at my feet was the hose I had forgotten to roll up, so I tried to ignore the increased squirrel racket as I went for the hose. When I picked it up and started to coil it, the squirrel stopped in mid shriek.

Boy, didn't he feel stupid.

[glitch]

139. lol! nt

[BeHereNow]

147. MAN, you could have at least included a "keyboard alert" in subject line!!!

TOO funny!
I had a similar experience with a squirrel who was most alarmed
at one of my dog's toys in the yard.
From a distance, I can see where he thought is was a cat.
My dog loves those toys that look like animals with the
sqeaky thing inside. She had one that I think was
supposed to be a ferret or something and that was
the offender.
LOL on the hose-snake.
BHN

[The Backlash Cometh]

150. I've got a great cat story, well, plywood cat story.

One of our neighbors who lives across the "road-you-will-not-cross," (well, that's how the dog knows it by name), well, the neighbor had a peculiar lawn sprinkler. It was a two-dimensional cut out of a cat about two and a half feet high. Imagine a kid drawing a cat from the side so you can see his front legs and back legs at the same time, but you can also see that the cat's head is turned to look at you. The tail is what's peculiar. There's a way to hook up the end of the hose to the back so that it swishes back and forth, like a normal cat tail, and the lawn gets watered as an exta.

Anyways, dog and I have walked on the sidewalk along the "road-you-will-not-cross" many times and we've seen the cat sprinkler in operation. Dog has never reacted to it, until one day she suddenly gets her gander up and she's looking at the cut-out cat and can't stop barking. I don't really recognize the bark. It's a new emotion. Something like shock and protest. So I look across and see the cat sprinkler and notice that the hose which acts like the tail of the cat is stuck. It's not moving in its normal side to side way. Instead, it's stuck, pointed downward, positioned exactly where a penis would be and the water is gushing between the legs, onto the ground as if the cat is taking a really wicked piss or is taking way too much liberty marking the place.

I'm embarrassed for my dog, but since there was no one on the street, I put her on the leash and walked her across so she can get a better look. Sure enough, once she realized her mistake, she stopped in mid-bark, just like the squirrel did.

[BeHereNow]

151. Animals get embarrassed you know...I hope you didn't laugh!

One of my dogs and one of my cats get extremely embarrassed when
caught in a moment like that.
The best is when my cat falls off the bed, which he is prone to do
when completing for space with the dog. They both try to be the closest
one to me- the dog has figured out which side of the bed is safe and
usually takes it first. The cat will take the other side and once I start
scratching under his neck, he writhes and forgets the edge of the bed and falls off.
He always looks at me like, "I meant to do that."
I am very careful not to laugh, at least not while he is looking at me...
God, I love my fur friends.
BHN

[shadowknows69]

21. "Noise"

Mind racing, memory erasing as each new thought arrives.
The noise is pounding and surrounding; Too resounding.

Brain screaming for peace, or even "The Dream Police"
To arrest what's inside my head, and make it quiet instead.

But quiet not all my thoughts; Just enough.
Just the noise of other people's lives. Not mine.

No mind of my own. I adopt those I know. Or don't
Just to read is to live another's need. Their pain. Even their greed.

I dream not to care, not have to share, the pain of all I see.
Why can't my mind filter out the noise? Ignore others, make the pain leave?

Huge hearts and hopless causes. The empath's curse.
I hear all the pain of life. The noise is getting worse.
S

If you're crazy then I'll see you at the funny farm BHN. I used to hear my mother better but my magick is dulled. Somewhat intentionally if you get the meaning of this poem.

[BeHereNow]

23. I understand- I call it- "I have no skin and the world hurts"

That is a wonderful poem.
Did you write it?

And yes, I know the need to "dull" it out.
All too well.

BHN

[shadowknows69]

25. Yeah, my own mental/spiritual issues are manifesting in my writing

quite often lately. Wait until I start composing my prophecies lol.

[BeHereNow]

28. You are an excellent writer-

I happen to believe that each piece of art produced
from "that space" is a feather on the wing that can save the
planet.
Please, keep creating beauty.
BHN

[shadowknows69]

31. Lately my thoughts are grim

don't know if I've created much beauty lately. Thank you though. That really means more than I can say to me.

[BeHereNow]

34. Kahlil Gibran-

"Your sorrow is your joy unmasked."

Keep writing- as Leonard Cohen said, the crack is
how the light gets in.

BHN

[shadowknows69]

33. "I have no skin and the world hurts"

That description is spot on BHN.

[BeHereNow]

38. So happy to know that you understand.

It helps, not being alone, eh?
BHN

[shadowknows69]

39. Indeed

I have a very good friend who in college with her and another witch we shared probably one of the most profound psychic experiences of my life. We had this triangle of energy flowing through the three of us in this grove with all our backs to trees but facing each other. Yes, 80% of the world probaly thinks I should be locked up in a rubber room.

[Bluerthanblue]

101. "listening" to the

two of you in this thread is like bird-song.

i agree with both of you.

BHN- i think your having the courage to post this thread to begin with 'says' much.

Shadow- your writing, even/especially the 'not so happy' stuff, is a treasure. You put words to feelings and experiences, which enable and encourage people to slow down, listen and connect with their own voices.

People need to be able to express what is going on within.

Is there anything like the sound of a mourning dove on a warm summer day-?? it is hauntingly beautiful...
but not "happy"- speaking words of everyman at some place in our life.

Thanks for this wonderful, unusual, thought-provoking thread-


peace,
(don't stop listening- or hearing, "we need to get ourselves back to the garden")

blu

[conscious evolution]

149. It only hurts

when we exist.
Remember,when one embarks down a spiritual path other beings are attracted to our light.
Some good,some bad.
The Good want to increase the light.
the Bad want to destroy it.
Join with the good and shine on the bad.

[loudsue]

43. That's a great poem, shadowknows...

Shadow KNOWS!

:kick:

[greyl]

22. I think you're making connections that don't really exist.

What are the chances that any look into your pool won't find a struggling insect? I'd say very low.
Have you considered how many lives you saved by destroying the spider web?
Maybe your tree is dying because it's infested with parasites that are only trying to eek out a tiny living in the community of life. ;)

[BeHereNow]

24. Oki

bhn

[cobalt1999]

59. You're right.

The human brain is designed to try to recognize patterns and associations. Sometimes though that ability makes associations that really aren't there, especially if someone is predisposed to believe in those associations.

The interesting thing in this thread is not the "communication", it's the sample of people who believe in it and the associations they notice to confirm their beliefs.

People exhibit interesting behaviors.

[Eurobabe]

60. And that feeds into the argument of soft science vs. hard science

with of course, hard science always being correct. :eyes:

Maybe if humans stopped pretending they freaking KNOW everything for once, we wouldn't be headed down the vortex we are at present.

I'll stick with BHN and his/her kind. The world is full of mystery.

Aristotle was an asshole.

[cobalt1999]

68. so you are predisposed to believe, have at it.

But it's a belief system that is all.

[shadowknows69]

75. I was "predisposed" to believe in Christianity

but I chose a different more spiritual path IMO. A predisposition to a belief system does not make an intelligent person incapable of questioning those beliefs.

[cobalt1999]

79. read a little further up.

The "predisposed" part was in relation to people "seeing" associations where there really isn't one. It's an interesting feature of our brains to look for patterns and associations and sometimes it gets it wrong.

Why do people believe in associations that are not really there? Mostly because they are already looking for them, thus "predisposed". Take this thread for example. Lots of folks sharing their experiences where they noticed something after an experience. How many are also sharing how many times that association did NOT occur. None. Why? They either don't remember when the correlation fails, and/or assign much more emphasis when it happens.

I'm not trying to change the believers, I'm humorously watching and noting their behaviors. The human brain is damn interesting.

[NJCher]

83. uh, no, it's not just a belief system

Because when you experience, it is interactive.

A person talks to you. You talk back. There is communication.

We talk to nature. Nature talks back. There is communication.

You just haven't had the experience yet. Once you have, you'll know beyond a certainty.



Cher

[cobalt1999]

87. Sorry, but psychic conversations with bugs and plants...

is certainly not science, not proved with any data, not measured by any means, not demonstrated in any repeatable way, not even explainable by any physical or chemical processes.

So, either (1) it's all in your head, or (2) everything we know about biology, physic, chemistry, evolution has some huge holes in it.

No offense, but I'll go with option (1). However, like I've tried to explain, I'm sure you and many others DO sincerely believe in these abilities. Enjoy.

[shadowknows69]

115. The scientific method is designed to find and fill the "holes"

in what we know as scientific fact. Just because we haven't found a way to quantify something yet through our current technology and understanding does not mean it isn't there. You do a a grave insult to science by choosing the option of "If we don't know it for sure yet. It's all in someone's head"

Like the world being round perhaps?

[NJCher]

119. bring yourself up to speed

Thought communication with plants is a very common high school science experiment. It's done over and over and all over the U.S. and has been for years. And it shows that plants react to human thought.

I'm sorry you're so out of date on this. You're the one that's missing out, not me.

Anyway, you enjoy, too. Enjoy your isolation and your (most likely) belief that we're the supreme species.



Cher

[greyl]

89. Beyond rational certainty and into the realm of

unshakable faith?

Can you do me a favor and define what you mean by "nature"?

[edhopper]

71. Since when does

Science not deal with mystery. Since when does Science say there is nothing unknown. No. I leave the sure assurances for the metaphysical crowd.

[glitch]

142. And your own input sample provides its own pattern segment to this particular topic.

Less hostile than some of the others, but still you found it necessary to join in. Perhaps you are more interested than you think.

[Matsubara]

65. Good point - nature is a bitch if you're the one getting eaten, but that's the system.

I have mosquitos in my yard, and hell yeah, I kill as many as I can. I'm not as aggressive with the centipedes - I know they are beneficial, but dammit they are venomous and creepy as hell, so when one wiggles out in front of me I STOMP it.

But I don't try to be sadistic. I found a huge sphinx moth larvae (hornworm) in my calla, and I relocated it to the woods nearby. I seldom have the heart to kill anything bigger than an inch.

I don't commune with the bugs and critters, but I love watching the plants grow, I don't use poisons on my garden, and I do like to watch the butterflies, birds and bees.


I don't really wan't to poop on your thread. I think you realize that it does come across a bit loopy and hippy-dippy, but that's cool, and certainly not a sign of insanity.

Enjoy your unusual perception of nature, and maybe next time, don't call people who don't share it "crazy"...

[goodgd_yall]

27. When I was 9

one night, as I tried to fall asleep---I don't know what triggered this---but I had an experience of tremendous compassion and empathy for insects. Before that I would step on them carelessly and without a second thought. After this experience, when I saw a bug in the house I would be very aware of its life and---this feels silly to say---how tragic its loss of life would be (as I decided if I should kill it or let it be). It's as though I could feel its appreciation of its life and how precious it was. I can't say I never kill insects, but I am certainly aware that I'm taking a life; I can't seem to kill them without a care.

[shadowknows69]

30. We have some nasty insects and spiders

and for the most part we'll let them be, unless they're making a b-line for my face. Small moths, on the other hand I have little or no sympathy for. They have invaded us.

[BeHereNow]

32. Sage works wonders.

Burn some sage in the spaces they have invaded.
They will leave.
I guarantee it.
AND, no harm will be done.

BHN

[shadowknows69]

35. hmm I do have some too

worth a try. I should have thought of that anyway. Sigh, the priestess that taught me would be very upset.

[glitch]

140. Thank you! That helps me.

Regarding your OP. I adopted a cat a year and a half ago. She had been aloof, if not disdainful for most of that time. Two weeks ago she became very affectionate. Like a light switch went on.
Also, I have a year and a half year old puppy. It has been brutal to trim her hair, she squirms like her life depended on it. I was thinking about getting her drugged just so that I could trim her mats. Well, last week she just let me trim her as if there had never been a problem! Like a light switch again.
I know what you mean about strange things happening. I have never heard an insect call for help but I do believe that deeper levels are possible and you are listening on one of those now. The world is incredible. Was it Yogi Berra who said, "you'll never believe what you see when you look?" Or something like that.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

46. The mixed animal Oscar was "born" out of just such a state that I was in.

[BeHereNow]

50. LOL

Always good to see you.
Thanks for the levity.
BHN

[A-Schwarzenegger]

52. You're welcome, but I meant it.

It's all about communication between apparently separate forms and levels and letting go of old concepts and habits of seeing and feeling. Oscar is the expression of the mystery of this communication and the absurdity of much of what passes for reality. "It is a fish made out of water, it is a bird made out of air, it is you made out of me." When it's funny it's because it's too simple to be understood except in the most uncluttered and "silly" state of seeing.

[KittyWampus]

62. Oscar helps us suspend rational thought and access a different part of our life experience!

if you see Oscar, pleases give him our regards.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

91. He prefers extra-rational.

A boat is useless when you're in the air, unless it's a flying boat, but if you're in the air already, who needs even a boat that flies? :hi:

[lildreamer316]

102. Ohhh no.

I miss Oscar.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

129. He's right here.

Ever & allways.

[Silver Gaia]

54. What an interesting thread! I just want to thank you for posting it.

I was surprised to find this discussion here, and have enjoyed reading it immensely. Perhaps because of a renewed interest in Momma Earth thanks to Al Gore and Live Earth, it has become easier to speak openly of such things without so much fear of judgment. It is important to find allies in these times.

[H2O Man]

55. I like to

spend as much time as I can out of doors, enjoying the land here. Usually, I do this alone, or perhaps with my wife or one of our children. This weekend, I had the pleasure of company: on Saturday, my cousin, and on Sunday, a niece, her SO, and their beautiful little daughter. These people all love nature, but are in positions now where they are living in urban areas. I took them "out in the wilderness," to see where I spend my time. On both days, my visitors had the chance to sit quietly -- well, not the little children, but that is good -- and to have intimate contact with our four-legged and our winged relatives.

My niece's SO comes from Long Island. This was my first opportunity to talk with him. He is hoping to buy a place out in the sticks, and I think he really enjoyed spending time here. He likes to watch things like the National Geographic channel on tv, and I was happy when he asked me what I think of Al Gore.

I think that one of the best parts of the weekend was the amount of contact that my visitors had with those animals that live in the creek, the woods, the swamp, and the open fields here. As adults, we can see the little children as part of the natural world that is in constant communication. Our culture has forgotten how to listen, much in the manner that our culture really is deaf to the message of little playful children.

My niece's SO spoke about how native people related to certain areas by way of song. The plants and animals are always communicating with us. I believe he heard the music here yesterday.

[BeHereNow]

112. "The plants and animals are always communicating with us" Thanks H20 Man

In that you are among one of the most intelligent, articulate and thoughtful
posters on DU, when it comes to concrete matters, I sincerely appreciate
this statement coming from you, in particular.

I dare someone to call YOU "nuts" for making it.
Among us, you are the most sane I can think of.

I'm happy to hear your family is planning on living
close to you. Sounds like your niece has found a good man.

BHN
:hug:

[H2O Man]

120. When I was

a child, I lived in an area that had what is known as an "Indian place-name." This is the type of name like "Susquehanna," which is a river and a community in PA. But few people in the northeast can translate the phrase "Susquehanna."

I lived near the Susquehanna, at a place which has a name that translates "the water sings here." I used to sit, as a young man, for hours with Chief Paul Waterman, listening to the water singing.

There were people who called us quite a few names.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

57. I Would've Sworn A Squirrel Was Calling Me Nuts.

But it turned out I was just hearing what he wanted to accomplish. Not sure if he ever did get his nuts.

[BeHereNow]

109. Don't laugh- you're not so far off. Let me tell you about the squirrels in my trees.

In the large oak trees in front of my house, there have lived
for many years a large family of squirrels.
I have been feeding them for years, for many generations
of their family.
Each year when the baby squirrels are born and old enough
to leave the nest the parents bring them to me and introduce
me to their children, not my husband, not my neighbor-
That is because I am the person who feed them peanuts.
From then on, the baby squirrels will always come to me
and appear to have no fear of me.
I honsetly believe it is because their parents
have "told" them I can be trusted and will feed them
treats.
One squirrel years ago would actually come in
the house and start barking for peanuts!
I loved him. He figured out how to get on
a book case by the window where the cats could not reach him.
He was SMART.
BHN

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

113. I Hand Feed Several Squirrels Here And Chipmunks As Well.

Over the years many others have gotten far less scared of my presence and each year I have more that will come right up to me.

The chipmunks are the best though. They'll hop right into my hand and eat the seeds while I pet them and stuff. They're like my little pets now. :)

[BeHereNow]

114. That's great- for years now, I have preferred my fur friends to most people.

Something about that UNconditional love, eh?
Makes the world go away everytime, critter love.

BHN

[shadowknows69]

116. Critter Love

would be a great name for a band lol. B-)

[DemReadingDU]

58. This is an interesting thread!

I think many more of us could also experience these types of communications, if we would only take the time to get into nature. But alas, most are just too busy.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and the links.

[shadowknows69]

78. Meditate, meditate, meditate

Hidden senses we don't normally use are obtainable if you can go deep enough into yourself and surrender to the All.

[Sapere aude]

97. Like mindful meditation

[Tesha]

61. Direct communication, no. But...

> Without going into specifics, I am curious to know if anyone else
> has had recent unexpected communication from the non-human life in
> their immediate environment.

Direct communication, no. But the world has a lot to
say if you're paying attention to it.

For example: Those birds that come to your bird feeder
aren't identical, audio-animatronic birds purchased at
God's Walmart-in-the-sky; they're individuals, and if
you pay enough attention over time, you'll come to
notice that.

Ahh, here's Mr. and Mrs. Cardinal, coming in the
dusk for their usual evening meal. They'll take turns
eating and eventually leave, but they'll be back again
tomorrow at dawn.

It's easier with the squirrels that are robbing the
feeder: that one has a shortened tail, probably as
a result of some battle waged a few years back. This
one has ruffled fur around its ears, and only shows
up when the feeder's been empty for a while.

And that red squirrel has clearly been doing whatever
is the squirrel equivalent of crank; nobody better
mess with that bad-ass mofo -- he's one mean tweaker!

It's the same with plants; the world isn't made of
God's astroturf, it's made of individual plants who
are born from seeds (spores, what-have-you), grow,
compete, and eventually die. And you can see all
of this happening if you have a mind to do so.
Ahh, that black raspberry there is fruiting, and
the fruit is being eaten by the birds; soon there
will be more raspberry bushes around the neighborhood.

A lot of people never notice this stuff because they're
too busy pushing buttons on their Blackberrys or
rushing from car to house or house to car. Or their
mouths are constantly flapping, preventing any other
sounds from reaching their ears.

Perhaps you've just recently stopped being that sort
of person and have noticed that there's really quite
a lot to notice out there? ;)

Tesha

[Wiccan Warrior]

64. As a Wiccan all I can say is mother nature has alot to say if you listen..

even the plants have something to talk about =)

[nolabels]

100. What i have noticed about mother earth is she still says a lot even if...........

the people or what ever else doesn't listen. Some of the most strange and interesting aspects or her (it seems to me) is the cycle of death as it replenishes life. We don't know how or when it will come to an end exactly (well most of the time anyway) but we do know it will eventually be shown to have purpose, even it sometimes seems senseless.

Plants, as is proven are sensitive and do react to all kinds of stimulus around them. To say they even have need to communicate somehow with us seems plausible. Yet to hope for the here and now, that people who believe vegetables are something you get at the grocery store and hamburgers are a product of McDonald's that hope would seem hopeless.

I short what i believe is if we find ways to make all the processes that take place because her accounted for and then spend time trying to enhance rather fight against or be separate from her. If we could do that then all our lives and the future for other peoples lives that come along long after with what should now be Shangri-La could at least be much more hospitable.

If we continue to ignore her then we too will become extinct just like the so many before

Shangri-La
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangri-la

[supernova]

66. Fascinating thread

Thank you BHN.

Your experiences are very much not unusual at all. I think they are incredible.

I have gotten intimations of such things before, but I think I'm not as attuned to it as I could be. I seem to be going through something of a slump in that I haven't gotten much of anything lately.

We have these large spiders here that like to make thier webs under your eaves, then hang down from them. Every fall (new batch) I have to tell one not to make its web in front of my door. The back bedroom window is OK since I don't use it much. And everytime I say that, without fail, she's in that window the next day.

I have wild rabbits that live in my yard. They are so tame to me, that they just don't bother moving when I go outside. Even if I get within 5 feet of them. Everybody else, they take off the minute they are spotted. I wish I understood them better.

The feral cats, however, no go. :P Still working on them.

[Odin2005]

67. Sounds like New Age woo woo BS.

[shadowknows69]

74. Now, Odin

It is New, actually very old, age Woo Woo but millions seem to believe it worldwide. If you don't? Cool. Don't see the need for you to say so in every thread of a spiritual nature. You'll never convince people that have experienced such things that they haven't.

[seriousstan]

69. I talked to my oak tree.......he says your nuts. The squirrels concurred.

[InkAddict]

70. You might be interested in this:

http://www.noetic.org/about/history.cfm

[Tulum_Moon]

72. Tree's hold so much history.

Esp. Oaks and redwoods. They have been around for so long and experienced so much. They are certainly worth listening to. I know what you mean BHN. It is not a hearing with the ear, but of the very soul of your being.

[BeHereNow]

110. Thanks! Very interesting site.

Adding to bookmarks.
BHN

[Jed Dilligan]

73. When I was 13-14 there were wasps in my room

They would circle around my bed at night. It never bothered me; I felt like they were protecting me.

Then one day the school bully, who had it in for me, came in with pictures of his home invaded by wasps. They had ousted his entire family for several hours.

hmmm....

[lildreamer316]

103. Now that is cool.

I'm gonna remember that one. Thanks.

[Venus Dog]

107. I have had similar experiences with wasps when I was a kid

My parents' house had an attic that I would use to "escape" into fantasy. During the summer, it would attract many wasps. I was always fascinated by them and "talked" to them while I played in the attic. They never bothered me even when I was close to them.

One time, I found a hurt wasp in my backyard, and nursed it back to health (or so I thought). I had made a bed for it and everything.

I have always had very strong connections to animals to the point that people will comment about it. I have never thought of it as strange. Thanks for sharing.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

76. You're asking if we can hear nature?

You mean with our ears and such?

Yes. Yes, we can do that.

[I Have A Dream]

80. This is a wonderful thread. Thank you for posting it!

:)

[dysfunctional press]

81. personally, i think you're crazy.

there is no 'connection' between all living things...that idea is just as ludicrous as the one about the supernatural being who created us, loves us, and watches over us- while keeping track of our 'sins'.

[NJCher]

88. not true at all--has had scientific attention

Here's the researcher who is exploring it--I'm sure you've all heard of him--Cleve Backster. Any baby boomer will know this name: he is the researcher whose work the famous bestseller (and PBS series) is about: "The Secret Life of Plants."

Definition of primary perception(from Backster's Web site):

snip
The vehicle of communication, the invisible, unrecognized field that interconnects all species and life forms, whereby biocommunication can occur. Coined by Cleve Backster, primary perception is distinct from extra sensory perception (ESP) in that it occurs before the human specialized senses of taste, touch, hearing, sight and smell. It is likely going on all the time. (Needless to say the Quantum Physicists are thrilled with his research.)

snip

Here's Backster's newly published book:



And here's his Web site:

http://www.primaryperception.com/index1.html

I could write all day on this topic but I have to go to work so I will tell just one short story and if I have time later, I will retrieve the photos to illustrate it.

About five years ago I was posting on a garden forum, answering a question someone had about a particular type of insect (pest). The person posted back that they didn't know if I had the right pest so I said, "I will get you a picture." I walked out to my hedges and chose a leaf (without even looking at it) that the insect had laid some eggs on.

OK, so my hedges are are about three-quarters the length of a football field. How did I know which leaf to go to? And how did I choose it without even looking?

I brought the leaf with the eggs into the house and put it on my scanner. While scanning in the leaf, the eggs hatched and insects started walking off the scanner. You can see all this in the pics.

The person responded that that is what the eggs looked like and so consequently, we knew we were talking about the same pest. But if we'd had any doubt, there was the insect walking off the edge of the scanner glass!

I haven't opened my pool this year but I always used to have experiences with the bumblebees like what BHN talks about in her original post. I always saved 'em with the skimmer.

As I said, I will try to return to this thread later with the pics.



Cher

p.s. Hi Shadow :hi:

[dysfunctional press]

99. ...

:eyes:

[SidDithers]

104. The only good thing about The Secret Life of Plants...

was the soundtrack.


And even that was shite compared to Stevie's earlier works.

Sid

[BeHereNow]

111. Wow, the interview on that site is a great read.

Interesting to note that so many people on this
planet see this sort of activity/experience as
quite natural; not surprising at all.

I guess people who scoff and so forth are
just too arrogant to contemplate the possibility that people
who are not glued to cell phones and sitcoms might
experience the world, and the life in it, more
harmoniously and truthfully.
BHN

[NJCher]

118. It's hard to be this way

Like the poster with the drought, I also experienced the trees needing water. I was collecting shower water--not just mine, but others'--and carting it out there. I think I spent half my day trying to get water to the trees. I also experienced visual images with it--red hot sun and red sky. The drought was years ago but I can still see those images.

I can barely watch the news when they report about how we are systematically and methodically destroying this planet. The hardest story for me is the polar bears. I just cannot stand hearing these stories. But every day, there they are.

If I had the money to sustain myself, I would spend my time working on behalf of Mother Nature and endangered species. I was able to do that for years--worked only part-time so I could do so--but eventually circumstances caught up with me. I hope to return to this work soon.



Cher

[glitch]

141. That's rather hardline for someone who chose QuestionAll for a moniker. nt

[dysfunctional press]

157. you really think so...? why?

i question the idea that there is some type of paranormal or supernatural "connection" between all living things, just as much as i question the existence of any kind of supernatural and/or omnipotent and/or omniscient and/or omnipresent deity.

if you've got proof to the contrary on either count, i'd be thrilled to see it.

[glitch]

159. Until you have proof on either count you'll have to keep the question open, right?

As far as I know, questioning means you don't have answers yet. You seem to have made up your mind, closed off possibility. Maybe DisbelieveAllWithoutProofWithinCurrentScientificFrame would be more fitting. ;)

[dysfunctional press]

160. not at all.

does that mean until proof is presented either way, we have to keep open the possiblity of the existence of zeus, apollo, jesus christ, and every other imaginary friend that humans through the ages have come up with?

until proof is presented that something exists- it doesn't.

[glitch]

166. Read up on the history of science, it's fascinating. It took people decades+ to accept "proofs"

Before Newton presented a proof that gravity existed some people thought the world had be flat otherwise they'd fall off.
Yet gravity still existed didn't it? And the same goes for every major breakthrough.

[dysfunctional press]

167. it's always been easy to prove that gravity exists-

drop something and watch it fall.

it's always existed and has been plainly visible & demonstrable- they just didn't know what to call it.

[knitter4democracy]

84. Things have been odd this summer. Does that count?

All of the berries are far earlier than usual. We have tons of toads all around the house when we didn't last year (and I'm trying to put homes and safe places up all over my gardens. My tomatoes, the first time I've planted them at this house in new plots, are seriously going crazy and trying to choke out all of the other plants in the gardens around them. My basil, which usually grows very well, is just not doing all that great. It's an odd summer. My dog's also been very, very nervous and barking at everything. Heat like this this early in the summer, let alone the no-rain we're getting, is all very odd here in Michigan. It's reminding me of the summer of '89. Bad drought year that year.

[LibertyLover]

85. No, you're not crazy

Although I'm not good at it, I sometimes have "heard" and "talked" to the trees in my yard. Whenever I mow the lawn, I explain to it that it has to be done because the homeowners' association requires it and so that snakes won't be able to use it as cover. I also try to do that when we trim bushes. I've apologized to bushes and trees that we have had to cut down because they were not in the best of health too. Usually I get a sense of 'that's ok, do what you have to'. I also frequently talk to my dogs, rats and guinea pigs. Rats are interesting - very chatty and affectionate; same with dogs. Guinea pigs basically think about food, food and well, food. It could be that the Kogi studies you are undertaking have sharpened your abililties.

[MisterP]

86. the experience really seems to have threatened a lot of people here

just the idea of communion or Nature as non-inanimate seems to bring out the crusaders for orthodoxy, armed with bizarre, groundless fury and armored with claims of "science"
like those guys who were spamming DU about the evils of organic or natural food--it caused the Dark Ages dont'cha know?

[Sapere aude]

96. My guess is that some people get so out of touch with the natural world that it becomes a strange

place to them. To much technology has isolated them. I live in the mountains surrounded by nature and critters of all sorts. One nice thing for me is that the rabbits around my house are not afraid of me.
They are so use to me being there and not threatening them.

[greyl]

105. Does it make you feel better to believe that?

Can you consider that some of the responses here might be from people who believe that Earth and its community of life should be regarded with reverence and not demeaned by platitudes born of wishful thinking?

The indigenous human cultures that provide diverse examples of how humans can live with sustainability on this planet didn't come to be that way because they prayed hard enough to the right God/s or because they had meaningful dialogs with other animals and plants. They came to be that way because they simply kept on doing what worked for them for hundreds of generations over the 3 million year course of human evolution, and they didn't adopt the idea that the Earth was made for humans to conquer and rule.

An intimate communion with a turtle will never provide the change of vision required for our culture to alter its course away from forcing 200 species a day into extinction. We need to look at what does and what does not work in the world with an analytical mindset free of our cultural biases. There is no secret hidden from our view that needs to be revealed by animal spirits, angels, or aliens. The answers are to be found out in the open, plainly, using science. Science is your friend and has nothing contrary to say about properly respecting our biosphere and its inhabitants. Magical thinking, anthropomorphic arrogance, and lack of foresight are what has largely brought the Earth bleeding to our feet.

Evidence based worldviews are a path of hope to the future, while lucid dreams and daytime fantasies only provide fleeting escape from the harsh reality that we are all captives of a civilization that compels us to continue destroying the world.

[MisterP]

145. and by "armored with claims of 'science'" I mean the way it's used as a

buzzword, like by the TASSC freaks

[BlooInBloo]

90. So *this* is what Kucinich-supporters do when they're not evangelizing Kucinich.

[cobalt1999]

93. ...

:rofl:

Today's been a funny day on DU.

[BlooInBloo]

94. This too shall pass.

[kestrel91316]

95. Well, the bee that stung me on my ankle a month ago sure

was saying something! But, then, I deserved it for the way I treated her when she got tangled in my hair..........thought she was just a fly and got her plenty riled up.

The mess her sting made of my leg is STILL not healed.......

[kestrel91316]

98. Ok as long as we are on the subject of weirdness.......

for the past couple of years, I occasionally hear inside my hear a very clear woman's voice saying (and it's always exactly the same): "There shall come a great winnowing".

That's it. Just weird. Probably a product of my own brain. But it's like our mother the Earth is speaking........

[Swamp Rat]

106. Yes, all the time. They are called "White House Press Conferences."

:D THEY often invade my home through the TV. :D



:hi:

[LWolf]

117. Yes.

Of course, it's summer, and I live rurally, so there is an abundance of non-human life exploding around me.

In the last week:

I was cleaning out a greenhouse used as a shed. The last shed on the place to be cleaned out after I bought the place 2 years ago. We've made more than 40 big trailer trips to the dump trying to get the place cleaned up; the price of getting a "fixer" that I couldn't have afforded any other way.

Anyway...discovered a quail nesting, and sitting on a massive pile of eggs, in the greenhouse. She couldn't have laid all those eggs herself; there are 20+. I needed to finish cleaning the greenhouse. I sent the eggs, and my incubator, to an interested party.

Two nights ago, I woke up in the dark, about 3am, to a loud squeaking. On my stomach. I could feel the cat at my hip. I turned on the light, and found that she brought me a live baby bunny. Not a scratch on it. She dragged it all the way in and on the bed, set it on my belly, and sat there on guard.

Later that same morning, about 6:30, I wake up normally. I get up. I'm standing in the room, and see that the cat is back. She's on the dresser this time, and has a bird. A live bird; sparrow of some kind. She is not touching the bird, she is simply "guarding." I open the door onto the deck, pick up the cat, and out the bird flies.

My cat is 6 yo. She's brought in live game before; mice and voles. She's never presented them live as a gift, though. In the past, she brings them in, kills them, and THEN presents them.

Today...I'm sitting here typing, and I hear the squeaking again. It's distinctive. A baby bunny. I get up and go looking. The best I can determine, it's coming from under the house or in the bathroom wall behind the shower. ?!?

Recently, we had an influx of lizards, as well. Three on the same day. There is still one hiding under the refrigerator. I captured and released the lizard under the chair and the lizard on the bookshelf.

Last sightings: packrats. They can be a problem. They were infiltrating the barn, and I was trying to decide the easiest, safest way to get rid of them since I no longer have a "barn cat." Before I could set any traps, 5 of them proceeded to drown themselves in a water trough over the course of 3 days. I haven't seen any fresh signs since.

That water trough is not the only source of water on the place. They could easily reach the chicken's water without risk.

I don't know that these experiences are really STRANGE for a rural area; the only truly unusual thing is the live gifts from the cat. Why live?

[BeHereNow]

121. That IS odd...live kitty gifts.

I don't know- maybe the consciousness is changing through out the
planet. I've always felt connected, a heightened sense, if you will-
but lately it has evolved to another level.
Maybe the Kogi prayers are reaching all life.

I had a serious talk with my hunter cat recently.
I told him that we had enough food and there was no
need to bring any home; this after he left me the
lower half of a bloody rat. I thanked him, but also
told him we didn't need any extra food and that his love
was the only gift I needed- so far, so good. Heh-heh.

Rats drowning in the trough?
That is WEIRD. Especially since you say there
are other water sources available to them.

As far as the baby bunny and sparrow-
The fact that the bunny was a baby may be why your
cat did not kill it. I have rescued baby squirrels, birds
and possums- they come to my door, literally.
It is as if they sense a safe harbor.
Anyway, when the refugee is brought into
the infirmary, fed, nutured etc... the whole
house fur gang joins in the process.

None of my house critters have ever acted agressively
towards a baby. Quite the opposite. It is a
festival of mothering towards the baby by both
the male and female critters who live here.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that
all species are wired to mother?

There are certainly countless expamples of inter-species
surrogate mothers.

I recently saw an astounding video of a cheetah
who killed a mother baboon and then upon
beginning to dine, discovered a baby clinging to
the mother- the cheetah treated it like a cub, not prey.

Interesting stuff, eh?

BHN

[LWolf]

122. All very intriguing.

I have been disgruntled and sad recently. When I moved in, there was an entire colony of feral cats in the barn. I spent a year trapping, spaying, and releasing. I also removed two litters of kittens, socialized them, and found homes for all but 2. I was attached to them.

I regret that now. I pulled them out of the barn and away from their feral mom when they had just ventured out of the den on shaky little legs, making their presence known. I hand raised them. I loved them dearly.

They loved me back. Yet, they preferred the barn to the house once they got old enough to figure out how to work the doggy door. I let them out; I've got 6 acres, good coyote-proof fences... it didn't help. By the time they ventured out, the feral cats were gone, having hung out awhile after being re-released, but not too long. Apparently the trap/spay/neuter/shots thing put them off the place, lol.

I don't know what got the two I kept, but the first went at about 10 months, and the second went about 2 months ago. Hence the pack rats inviting themselves into the barn. I regretted not finding those two a home where they would have been safer. My other cat, the one I brought with me when I moved, is more cautious. Plenty of hunting, but she doesn't consider the barn, or the great outdoors, "home." She stays close in.

Anyway, I've missed those 2 "barn cats" that I hand-raised. While they spent most of their time outside, they came in to eat, cuddle, and play. I feel like I let them down, not being there when they needed me.

Perhaps my senior cat is offering comfort.

[AlienGirl]

133. When a cat brings you a live gift, it's often a hunting lesson

Cats will bring their kittens living things to teach them how to kill them. I had a cat once who was convinced I needed remedial hunting lessons, and he would bring me live prey frequently. He also used to try to lead me through his best hunting spots, taking care that I stayed close behind him.

Tucker

[mitchum]

123. I am quite a skeptic and would never describe myself as "spiritual", but I don't doubt you...

at all. I also experience that phenomenon (and others) frequently.
I think, and this is just my opinion, that we don't "choose" to be receptive or attuned to these occurrences (just as some don't work at having better eyesight, hearing, etc. than others)
Perhaps this is a natural science for which the measurement instruments have not yet been developed?
I honestly don't know.

[dave29]

124. I have hyperacusis

a collapsed tolerance to sound, which can be very painful, but at the same time gives me what I refer to as "dog ears."

I have "superhuman" hearing according to my ENT.

In relation to nature and other wildlife, yes, I've noticed a change, within the last few years, picking up especially this summer. For me it is primarily the birds, which are acting and sounding different to me. I have not been able to put my finger on it, but there is something different. I would describe it as anxiety.

In regards to nature itself, I can tell you the things that are the loudest to me are the continuous tunnels of wind disturbance I hear whenever I hear cars going by on a not too distant highway.

I try to take all these perceptions with a grain of salt, as it could all be explained by my "condition" -- but I agree that the world has not "sounded" right for some time now.

[Homer Wells]

125. This is quite the thought-provoking thread

Kicked and Recommended.

Come on someone. One more rec and its off to the greatest page:applause:

[The Backlash Cometh]

127. Nothing that I would consider other worldly,

but, I have become extremely in tuned with my surroundings and I'm more aware of nature and quite surprised by how busy my backyard is, but I figured that had to do with planting a butterfly and hummingbird habitat.

[slowry]

130. Clarification please.

When you communicated with the spider, did you make noises? Or was it with your mind?

[formercia]

131. We have a family of Ravens

that visit us on a regular basis. At first, I thought it was just to beg for food, but last year one of the older members of the flock began to keep me company while I would work in the Yard. It would preen itself and jabber at me in manner that they talk among themselves. I think it just enjoyed the interaction.

[Tesha]

134. Birds are far more intelligent than we (usually) give them credit for.

And they are individuals; it's not at all unbelievable that
a single individual would get habituated to you, particularly
if you've reliably given it food in the past.

And won't you be surprised when it brings the kids 'round
to be introduced to you? ;)

Tesha

[formercia]

135. I had a Fisher introduce me to his missus

We had an encounter while I was deer hunting. He came loping down the trail and was about 30 feet from me before he realized his mistake. We made eye contact for about 30 seconds until he realized I meant him no harm. He then loped right past me, passing within 3 feet of me like I wasn't even there.

The next year I was walking the woods in the same area when a pair of Fishers crossed the trail right in front of me. Normally, they would be long gone before I even got near. He wanted me to see him.

A fully grown male Fisher weighs about 30 pounds and looks twice as big with all his fur. Supposedly, they are about the meanest critter in the woods, but he showed no aggression at all, didn't even raise a hair or bare his teeth. He just had this sad look, like he knew his time was up.

I think they can read minds. It was spooky.

[Tesha]

137. Animals can read body language.

> I think they can read minds. It was spooky.

Animals can read body language.

We, being animals, can do it too, but we usually let
language get in the way, over-riding what the body
language should be telling us. "Of course I'll
respect you in the morning..." ;)

Tesha

[formercia]

138. A Fisher's favorite treat

is a Porcupine.

When confronting a Porcupine with the intent of making it a meal, body language is everything. :)

[rosesaylavee]

132. Thanks for the thread BHN

Since our first family cat as a child, I have had an ability to connect with animals in ways my family can't or won't do. It amuses them and I haven't given up hope that they will catch on to doing it too. Lots of hyper rationality in my family. Some people are just closed to this or they do not have that sense... yet.

I think you are discovering, in a very real and personal sense, that you are not the head species. You live in a world populated by other species and as you are the one with the opposable thumb, you are under obligation to help when needed.

I had a dog, Amelia, who passed a few years ago. We were very close. I would think of taking her for a walk and she would get up from her nap and start jumping around where we hung her leash. I would think, hey I still have some left over hamburger or steak from last nights meal that perhaps she would like for a snack, and the same thing... she would get up and look at me very expectantly until I got her the leftover. I visit friends houses who have pets who 'never come out for strangers' and very rarely do they not come to greet me. I greet all pets when I enter a home - as it is their home too. I think its just polite.

You are practising ahimsa - I do too. I don't kill any insect or creature unless they pose a threat to me or my family. Bugs get carried out of my house on a regular basis and it feels very right to do so.

[datasuspect]

136. i am the squirrel whisperer

they come to me without reservation and look at me as their holy father.

[diamidue]

143. Yes! How odd. Animals have been in my dreams

lately. Mountain lions, squirrels, rats, crows. I don't remember ever having so many creatures in my dreams before. How interesting that you should bring this up. Maybe it is because I have been doing a lot of gardening lately and growing in tune to Mother Nature? Don't know.

[BeHereNow]

148. I suspect it is a two way transmission.

I firmly believe the Kogi are actively seeking receptors at this point in time
in a very concentrated manner- the fact that you are practicing care of the earth
and plants by gardening is perhaps a conduit.
Please do take the time to check out the Kogi message to the world.
http://www.taironatrust.org.

Animals in dreams are symbols you know.
Maybe you should look up what the different
animals appearing in your dreams represent?

BHN

[firefox_fan]

144. Yes, Mel Gibson had the same experience in "SIGNS"

Something is going on.

[Venus Dog]

153. Crop circles - from wherever or whoever is making them, you have to admit

they are awesome. Check out this latest one that was just found in England http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/eastfield2/eastfield2007aa.html

[Sequoia]

152. It is an ability we have lost.

No, you are not crazy, just maybe more in tune.

[illinoisprogressive]

154. I've heard of people who do. I believe that all of nature and life is connected, too

[HCE SuiGeneris]

155. It's a gift to be connected to your living environment.

We have to overcome the negative social conditioning most of us undergo at an early age to discern the intricate patterns and energies that surround us. Good for you on opening your mind and senses.

[NuttyFluffers]

158. yes, intuitive understanding w/ non-humans occured to me before

some people are extremely in tune with such things, some with a particular specialization. some are so good they seem like savants, like an animal whisperer. others do it with extra dimensions into realms what we would term the dead, etc. this is nothing new and nothing to be afraid of. nearly all cultures have had terms and conceptions of these sensory phenomena and noting how there was a spectrum of sensitivity among human populaces. only recently are things like this dismissed as non-existent so openly, but it does not matter. i actually have faith that science will one day develop sensory equipment and decoding techniques to read such data; it will be fascinating day when we can read more than the few songs of whales and the dances of bees. intuitive leaps can glean the data fast, but seemingly w/o systematic reliability for all; that's why i also enjoy science, because it tries to bring a method of systematic reliability to democratize understanding and capability.

have fun speaking to the wind and the willows! :7

[pitohui]

161. well since i expect it maybe i can't relate

i look for and expect certain communications from nature, and for the most part i have discovered that the more i listen and look the more i hear and see

most people who don't expect nature to say anything to them are not going to hear anything, they've got too much other noise going on in their heads

most communication is immediate, cardinal taps on the window and wants to know when the eff i'm putting the seed out, wren looks in the window to see if i'm there to chase the cats away

occasionally something "woo woo" happens such as one of my plants marches up to me in a dream and demands to be watered, dammit, could be, my attention has to be caught that way (whether by my subconscious or my plant, who knows) because i pay more attention to other beings esp. the feathered species when actually awake and on the spot

and some species can't catch a clue, inter species communication between me and the common house cat is almost nil, they LOVE me, i can't seem to get it thru to them for more than a few hours that they need to buzz off elsewhere

i doubt any of this is "super natural," more a function of how much you're willing to study and learn about how various beings use body language etc. to express themselves

rarely do i hear "voices" and when i do the communications prove to be of little value -- i think the gurus who believe such messages to be distractions are probably right on track -- how much time has been wasted to no benefit listening to "channels" for example?

[HeeBGBz]

162. I watched a fox take a piss by a bush this am

Does that count?

I haven't seen a live fox in years and this guy was about a block from my house.













He was very unafraid and several times approached my car.
I felt if I had opened up my car door he would've come right in. It was weird.

[pitohui]

164. symptom of distemper?

i've always heard around here that if fox, raccoon, etc. come RIGHT up to you there is the risk of distemper but i don't think we've actually had such an outbreak in this area for several years so i dunno

[HeeBGBz]

165. I heard rabies too

He didn't appear ill, but he was very thin.

[porphyrian]

168. If the bees were communicating with you, it's more likely you smelled them than heard them.

Insects tend to communicate with chemical trails, though bees also "dance" to communicate directions to the hive.

However, what you describe is more likely sensitivity to something science hasn't defined as a sense because they can't attribute an organ to it. Or you really are crazy and in denial about it.

[BeHereNow]

169. How would I smell a bee from inside my house?

Maybe I am crazy, although I don't think so.
But then crazy people are the last to know, eh?
LOL.
BHN

[porphyrian]

171. I'm leaning towards one of the other two options.

It's unlikely that you have that sensitive a sense of smell. You have probably become more sensitive to things our society teaches us to ignore. Or bees drown in your pool all the time and you're just barking mad to think they're calling to you. ;)