I think VP GORE should be nom'd for the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE

[opihimoimoi]

GW Awareness has been around for a long time...and Gore was there from the start/near start.....

He should get the Peace Prize....It would be Truly Fitting.....

Opi

Come, we go wish....

[MatrixEscape]

1. Or, perhaps,

Gore should be nominated for being one of the best lackey representatives of the system that is most prevalent and who is most easily acceptable and digestible by the American populace to date.

A simple and quick look into Al Gore's life and political history should reveal that he is not what he appears to be, and that appearances are clearly about masks and presentations in place of substance and actualities in our media-induced culture today.

Al Gore is simply the best of the possible and acceptable delusions that the system has to offer you in place of anything that might remotely or directly affect your current life standard and your future.

When you find someone who can effect immediate changes to your, (our) current predicaments, struggles, amd personal problems, then you can consider me a participant. Otherwise, the grand facade continues with nothing more than excellent casting call that fits the script exactly as intended, all plot twists considered.

[JTFrog]

3. Oh brother.

So since no one out there lives up to your omnipotent and omniscient expectations, Al Gore is a lackey?

Al Gore is without substance? You sir, offend.

[MatrixEscape]

4. I am glad that I could offend!

I would only hope that the offense I have inflicted upon you would incite or entice you to consider what has led you to respond in such a way.

I assume that both you and I do not know Al personally. All we have is what has been portrayed to us via the media. Maybe you have a more intimate relationship with is prominent personality, but I do not.

From my understanding, his current portrayal and stance does not coincide with the observable history, place, and actions that correspond with his place. If that is offensive and does not demand more investigation by those who seek understanding and truth, then I apologize for my offense wholeheartedly. I did not mean to be abrasive or mean-spirited towards today's media Gestalt at all.

It seems rather good to ask ourselves, more candidly, what we know and how we get to know it. Al Gore is not a personal and tangible reality to me. He is just a personage who has commanded attention, (and is not poor, homeless, or destitute) and thusly, because of his ability to transmit his ideas and agendas to me via any media, immediately suspect. That is, because I do not see much media attention place on the average person, homeless or not, unless that person has committed a crime of some sort.

Al Gore lives and acts in a class, chaste, and strata of society that I, and most likely you, don't belong to. How am I supposed to relate to that other than to either accept it blindly or question it with the resolve and intent of our Forefathers?

[JTFrog]

6. So people

who live in that "strata of society" that you do not belong to are automatically dismissed?



We can agree to disagree then.

Have you by chance read his book?

[MatrixEscape]

9. Well ...

Only to the point that we see people in other "stratas" of society dismissed in ever increasing numbers and ways that only appear to be growing in vast ways.

Are we going to genuflect to the great and honor them still while untold numbers of children die of starvation around the world for the lack of medication, food, and sanitation?

Am I wrong to not admire the man of good fortune whose ideas and pronouncements only reflect a small portion of the greater problem that is simply centered around a grandiose idea of self-interest created by the very system that placed him in his high stature amongst us?

We can agree to disagree but ...

How can I put a wealthy player in a position that has been handed to him and call that a solution to the common person who suffers in the real world across the globe because of the greed that provides some with a comfortable cushion and platform to expound their ideas from?

How can I manage to trust anyone that is only portrayed to me by today's media when I know it is merely the Pravda voice of corporate manipulation, plain and simple?

[JTFrog]

11. By your reasoning,

Any person that you do not personally know, is not of your "caste" and you have no personal experiences with is untrustworthy.

To exclude a person based on his status in life is undemocratic. Do you believe that Al Gore went into New Orleans with his own equipment for photo ops and profit? Do you believe that his push to revert global warming is all about profit? I do not.

No one is perfect. He has definitely made mistakes. But he isn't letting himself be defined by those mistakes. He is taking steps to try to make this a better world.

And if you are trying to convince me that the media has a history of glorifying Al Gore, that is truly laughable.

Other countries always get it before we do. They came to him directly and begged for his help. But then other countries aren't force fed our propaganda.

I don't think Al Gore is superman or some fairy tale hero. But I will always have great respect for the man for what he is trying to accomplish.

Now, my response is about Al Gore. It seems to me that your issue is alot deeper than your feelings about Gore.

[democratdoug]

21. I agree!

The media hates Al. But I think he is the best person for the job if he would run. No one could live up to matrix's vision of a candidate....and yes, I think he should win the Nobel!

[newyawker99]

27. Hi democratdoug!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[johnaries]

34. And all I know of you is what I read here. I am not impressed.

Al Gore and his father were my Senators for many years, however. although I didn't agree with them on every point (I haven't found a politician that matches that criteria yet), they both did a fantastic job.

From what I can discern from your posts, you appear to be an egotistical, exclusionary, pompous ...,

Well, lets just say that I have known Al Gore much longer and better than I have known you and I DEFINITELY trust him more than I trust you.

[ThomWV]

8. Blather

Blather.

Its the only word that fits.

"then you can consider me a participant"

That one line from your blather sums it up. You are not participating, you are simply childishly scolding, blathering some nonsense cooked up in your own mind. What you certain are not doing is participating in any constructive discussion.

Blather.

[MatrixEscape]

10. Then nothing but blather it is ...

in your mind.

Where does the validity of your own response come from? I certainly hope it is from your own "mind" rather than all that has been inserted into it since childhood, but I can certainly doubt that.

Cooking away here in all my blissful and realized childishness, as you dub it. What a harsh response? Min or yours?

Don't worry about it. You have already delegated my responses to far below the mediocre. I can't stand up to the media or Al himself when it comes to import or stature. I simply don't have that kind of money or influence.

Blather on, Garth!

[Labors of Hercules]

19. I can see by your use of language that you are intelligent...

Yet for some reason choose to convey the opposite.

[MatrixEscape]

Thanks!

I can only consider that as a compliment and a reflection on you own capacity to assimilate what was presented, no matter how brief and wanting your reply.

If you would like to consider my opposition to popular opinion as nothing more than contrary, please be sure to look behind the iconic mask of Al Gore. Their is much, both pro and con, for you to consider in his personal and political history. Your personal investigation and discernment is what is most vital and important above and beyond my own statements.

Who would feel confident in tacitly accepting anything that is presented to them without full disclosure and careful scrutiny? While none of us has enough time and resources to investigate what is going on, sometimes a good controversy or literal tipping of our boats can be the inspiration to delve more deeply into things we support only because the superficial has taken command of our attention due to our endless distractions.

Rational debate is one thing. Accepting what is presented to us based on its predominance is another. We must all learn to see that truth is not at all dependent on the volume of the amplifier or the number of repetitions of the tape being play. It is then that something wonderful MIGHT really happen for us all.

[MatrixEscape]

20. Thanks!

I can only consider that as a compliment and a reflection on you own capacity to assimilate what was presented, no matter how brief and wanting your reply.

If you would like to consider my opposition to popular opinion as nothing more than contrary, please be sure to look behind the iconic mask of Al Gore. Their is much, both pro and con, for you to consider in his personal and political history. Your personal investigation and discernment is what is most vital and important above and beyond my own statements.

Who would feel confident in tacitly accepting anything that is presented to them without full disclosure and careful scrutiny? While none of us has enough time and resources to investigate what is going on, sometimes a good controversy or literal tipping of our boats can be the inspiration to delve more deeply into things we support only because the superficial has taken command of our attention due to our endless distractions.

Rational debate is one thing. Accepting what is presented to us based on its predominance is another. We must all learn to see that truth is not at all dependent on the volume of the amplifier or the number of repetitions of the tape being play. It is then that something wonderful MIGHT really happen for us all.

[LostinVA]

23. Thanks alot

English Breakfast tea all over the desk now.

[koopie57]

33. humm

I thought it sounded arrogant and perhaps some jealousy. I've had some pretty stupid ideas (at work mostly) explained to me in a lovely memo complete with correct grammar, but their lack of critical thinking skills was awe inspiring. I prefer the rough grammer and spelling errors of the one in the trenches whose ideas are helpful and practical, but that is only MHO.

I don't mean that I think the poster is not intelligent, just I wasn't impressed with what he said, the way he said it not withstanding.

[LostinVA]

22. Wow.Unreal.

[Uncle Joe]

28. Did he not empower you to enlighten us with your wisdom

when he championed the Internet? How do you expect to escape from the Matrix without it? The Internet while not immediate, in the sense of instantaneous, is effecting change and it's getting stronger every day. For his vision and dedication to the people, Al Gore, was trashed and slandered relentlessly by the corporate media, this reminds me of that age old adage, no good deed goes unpunished.

[Alexander]

2. I think he should be nominated for many things...

whether he seeks them or not...;-)

[MatrixEscape]

5. Is there an award yet ...

For being wealthy, connected, of good family, and connected to the right people and powerful companies?

Well, maybe that's the called the Presidency here in America. The White House Award!

Personally, it has very little to do with my personal well-being, empowerment, or financial growth, over all. I, and those I know, would probably prosper greatly without the distractions, manipulations, and intervention of the wealthy and ultra-wealthy. So far, it seems like we are merely the bio-fuel for their personal aggrandizement and an underscore for their separatist delusions concerning power and fame.

Why should I be a part of that and support it when I can already see that no amount of support for such personalities equates with a demonstrable improvement concerning my gradually building enslavement to corporate agendas???

[LostinVA]

24. *yawn*

Oh wait, were you saying something? No, I see you weren't.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. He Has been nominated. eom

[MatrixEscape]

12. Great!

So do We the People get the peace or a prize? I am not sure what we are going for here or what the tangible end result will be.

Al gets nominated. We still live in our day to day lives with ever increasing prices for energy and food and everything else. We live in a suspension of liberties and send our kids off to a war we don't want and live with their deaths. We have no health care without being able to afford it or lose all to get it. We work endlessly to get into debt with less payed personal and vacation time than the rest of the world. Our jobs are being outsourced and in-sourced as we watch the debacle of the decline fo our personal wealth unfold. Our property and homes are losing value as the housing bubble deflates and gets ready to pop. Our infrastructures is crumbling and our children are getting substandard educations compared to the rest of the world. The list goes on.

So, what are we celebrating here? Who is getting the kudos and prizes for just so happening to be in the right family with enough money and fame to capture our attention while not single-handedly doing much of anything that involves our personal, worsening, (yes, middle-class, that means you, too) lives?

Okay, wow! Let's give AL Gore something because he is all into Global Warming! Yeah, we can all work three jobs and not retire and not get decent health care, but lets honor and applaud this guy for the long-term problem that stands above our immediate needs no matter how long it takes for it to do us in in the end. Damn, I would miss a meal or a surgery for that!

All hail Al! Is is like a personal Jesus Christ for the DEAF, DUMB, and BLIND!

[HeeBGBz]

13. It's all Al's fault

Everyone else is doing soooo much more.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

16. I agree with you

on an intellectual and gut level.

I've educated myself and have come to the same conclusion. Yet, there is still a bit of the optimist in me, more for my sons than me at this time in my life, and I hope that I'm dead wrong, that maybe Gore is different. Not that I'm looking for a savior, there are too many other "players" behind the scenes that could make no savior possible (we are that far down the rabbit hole), but if I didn't have a glimmer of hope for my children, life would be too grim for me.

[AngryAmish]

14. That is a brave stand you have there

I mean, are you really willing to put up with the slings and arrows of such a bold statement on DU? In fact you should earn a prize for such a brave stand.

[MatrixEscape]

18. Thank you so much!

Well, your response is my prize, along with another post here of the same intent.

Recognition and reinforcing responses are a true treasure of great value to me! Consider yourself a benefactor in that cause and your bravery adds to mine to create an impetus.

That is uplifting! Maybe we can have an influence with our voices combined here?

[Anais_98]

15. I'm glad someone finally said it

I don't usually post, but I really wanted to say a few things.

Firstly, I agree entirely with what MatrixEscape wrote. It's pretty brave to say the truth on a board where Al Gore is considered a saint incapable of doing wrong (NAFTA anyone?).

Secondly, I do not see why Al Gore should get a Nobel Peace Prize. He served as Vice president during the Clinton presidency. The Clinton adminstration, of which Gore was an important part, did virtually nothing to halt or reduce greenhouse gas emissions in its eight years of power, despite the fact that there was much evidence that climate change was real. In fact, greenhouse gas emissions rose substantially during this era, unabated by pesky targets or commitments. If Vice President cared so much about climate change why did he not use his incredible influence and power to reduce greenhouse gas during this period?

A Nobel Peace Prize should go to those who devote their entire lives to a particular cause or field, and sacrifice much in the process. I don't think this applies to Al Gore.

[MatrixEscape]

17. Thank you so much!

I know I take a great risk here by posting what I do. It is not an easy job, nor is it something that brings much in the way of respect or honor as a reward.

If anything, my posts, and your apt response based on some unbiased knowledge and research, (which can be both painstaking and time-consuming) should serve to compel the readers here to be more careful about tacit acceptance of what appears to be versus a more in-depth inquiry as to the substance behind what is presented to us.

The above is very important to the status and nature of our union. It is more important than anything that the media, popularity, or recognition might superficially provide. After all, any one of us could easily fashion a wonderful fiction about ourselves if only we had the time, money, family, and connections to do so. We should take that fact for granted in the kind of media-generated society we are living in. Money and position buy not only power but image. If we all stand to question that premise without failure or prejudice, that is when we have a real chance to both participate in the process and have any real and recognizable participation in the outcomes. Until then, it is only a carnival barker's game, for the most part. That is a crucial aspect of recognition for the people.

[Lars39]

32. Ya'll haven't backed up your claims with any links.

[Elspeth]

35. So what are your thoughts on Ludacris?

I personally can't see him winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

[LibraLiz1973]

31. Yes, Al Gore CLEARLY did not care for the environment

during the Clinton years....


Just a little something published by Uncaring Al in 1993.

[opihimoimoi]

25. I see there are those who oppose the proposal of VP Gore recieving the Nobel...

Despite their efforts and reasoning...I still believe VP Gore should get the Prize.

[book_worm]

26. If I'm not mistaken, he has been nominated.

[dave29]

29. Al Gore has been nominated and may win this year - FYI,

n/t

[opihimoimoi]

30. Dems Produce Nobel Prize Winners....Pubs put out Cronies and Frauds.

The Republicans Ineptness is revealed.....