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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:33 PM
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Juan Cole's Advice to Hillary on Iraq: What She Should Have Said
instead of the boneheaded thing she did say at Take Bake America:

http://www.juancole.com/2007/06/coles-advice-to-hilary-on-iraq-reply-to.html



The Chicago Sun Times has a run down of what the Democratic presidential candidates recently said, some of it Iraq-oriented. Actually, I would argue that everything in this election is tinged by Iraq.

The article, like many others, notes that at Hillary Clinton's speech at Take Back America, the Code Pink antiwar demonstrators were out in fewer numbers this time and that she got support from other parts of the crowd. The demonstrators objected when she blamed what went wrong in Iraq on the Iraqi government. They were right to protest.

If I were advising Senator Clinton on what to say about Iraq, this would be it: "Our troops have fought courageously and with great skill against the totalitarian, genocidal Saddam Hussein regime and its security forces. They did their job, but the Bush administration did not do its. Bush failed to secure a United Nations Security Council resolution for the war, depriving the war effort of key international support and casting the administration as an outlaw regime in the eyes of much of the world. There was no planning for the aftermath of the war. Stupid decisions were taken to dissolve the Iraqi army, to fire thousands of experienced bureaucrats and teachers, to marginalize the Sunni Arab community, and to deliver Iraq into the hands of expatriate carpetbaggers, some of them overly friendly with the ayatollahs in Tehran. Neither the US military nor the Iraqis bear the primary blame for the subsequent catastrophe. It is on the shoulders of the Bush administration. The administration has so spoiled the situation that there is no longer any hope of a military solution. Any solution to this festering crisis must be political and diplomatic. The US military is essentially being ordered to support some sides in a multi-pronged civil war against others, but without any real hope of having being able to triumph decisively in these low-intensity guerrilla wars. That is why I favor getting our troops out of Iraq and insisting that regional powers, NATO and the UN now come in to bring about a political resolution, even as the world ensures that a nonsectarian Iraqi military is trained, equipped and deployed for the protection of all Iraqis."

Caveat: I am not giving my own speech above. I'm just taking what Senator Clinton often says and rephrasing it so that the blame is put where it belongs, which is not on the poor Iraqi public but on Bush-Cheney. I think she'd find this approach a stronger rallying cry and also that it would allow her to occupy a higher moral ground.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:41 PM
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1. What he Said!
though I would have been no where near as diplomatic and nice.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:42 PM
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2. Beware pundits
offering "advice". Loopy idiocy at best. They usually use the advice as means to disseminate their sudden "wisdom", much less credible than armchair quarterbacking and more than useless. Boiling the rant down he is challenging Hillary to take Bush on about the war because he violated everything she voted for. Since when have any of the resolution voters ever made that clear challenge successfully? if they did it was squelched by these same advice givers who were not prepared to take this to the American people- except in event of tactical political failure(and low polls, loss of power) by the Coup dictatorship. The day of the invasion, did Juan Cole decry any of these basic legal violations and outrages? Since then?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:48 PM
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4. Evidently you don't know who Juan Cole is.
But yes he has been consistently against the war. You should look Google him and look around his Website.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:40 PM
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5. Evidently I
got carried away so I couldn't see Juan Cole from Juan Williams. Thanks. Too too far.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 01:46 AM
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6. That is *really* far away!
;-)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:43 PM
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3. Rephrasing isn't Hillary's problem,
it's her position:

Clinton Would Keep Troops in Iraq

"SHADOW GOVERNMENT IN WAITING" to propose 2012 withdrawal

New think tank details U.S. withdrawal from Iraq..."beginning in 2008 and ending in 2012"

Juan Cole has been giving her the benefit of the doubt, but it's obvious he believes her positions and the way she talks about Iraq are flawed.
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