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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 07:58 AM
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Are Democrats capable of Protecting America?
What I mean by America is not some land mass somewhere but the heart and soul of the country, the US Constitution. IMO the Constitution is America Yes America is a lot more than that "damn piece of paper" but what is America if it (the Constitution) is gone. America is an idea not just some frozen tundra in Alaska or swampland in Florida. It isn't just a bunch of people living on some land mass. It is how those people live that make a country. By what code they live. Our code that made America a great nation is under attack. I see the assaults on it daily but see no defense from those assaults. I see hearings on the assaults and mumblings about such but no real defense. Are Democrats not able to defend us. I have no worries of terrorist destroying America. I don't believe there will be huge armies of Muslims going door to door to search out Christians and destroy them. I don't think America is in any danger from armed assault. Maybe an occasional criminal act that kills a bunch of people but not an invasion of a foreign force on our soil. I do see our heart and soul ( the US constitution) being savaged and assaulted almost every day. This is a real honest to goodness attack on our country and I am not sure our elected Representatives are up to the job of protecting us. This is in no way suggesting Republicans could do better and in fact they are the enemy. They are the responsible party for destroying our country, IMO. Until I see some real defense of our country from Democrats I will continue to criticize and moan and groan and do what is within my power but I am very worried. I am not sure they are up to the job. Granted they have only been in Power for six months but they need to realize this is the number one job. Nothing else matters if America is destroyed to be replaced by Amerika. Just my $.02 worth
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:00 AM
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1. So far, the answer is no.
They refuse to for some theory about the 08 elections.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:04 AM
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2. Of course
If a CLEAR MAJORITY of the American public elects enough lawmakers, enough lawmakers to overcome an aggressive minority of republics. And, if a Dem Pres is able to make one or more appointments to the Supreme Court.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:13 AM
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3. They have a majority.
That is all that is required to initiate impeachment. It doesn't have to be a big majority. We don't have to wait for anything in the future. All it requires is having one more person than the republicans have. Just one. One individual. Nothing "bigger" is required.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:05 AM
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12. yet, an impeachment won't 'defend America' against ALL ills
and it WILL obscure and stifle many functions of oversight and levers of accountability unrelated to whatever charges are brought.

It's just not credible to present impeachment as some all-encompassing cure-all.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:53 AM
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17. There is no legislation more important than
the primacy of our nation's constitution and its laws. Without it, we no longer are the country you grew up in. We live then at the political whims of party and power. That is not the American democracy.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 10:04 AM
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19. How about criminal charges?
Are bringing charges of wrong doing off the table as well?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:26 AM
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4. Thank You For Your Concern.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:38 AM
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5. What a bull shit question
That kind of question plays right into the right wing meme that republicons are keeping you safer.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:40 AM
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6. How so?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:47 AM
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7. It makes no difference what party the elected officials are in regards to protection
The republicons keep you safer line is pure propaganda and to ask that question here is playing along with the right wing and validating their propaganda.
Republicons are just as competent to screw it up as anyone else and they don't want you to think so.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:48 AM
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8. The OP was not talking about protecting us from terrorism.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:51 AM
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10. Where do you see any suggestion at all that Republicans keep America safe?
Are you capable of comprehending what you read? I said the exact opposite of what you suggest. Maybe re-read the original post and then look at your post. It makes no sense in relation to what I posted..
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:50 AM
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9. We The People
are self governing. Are we capable of protecting ourselves? should be the question. The idea that politicans are Daddy and Mommy and have the job of protecting us little children is a Republican meme.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:00 AM
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11. If not the Democrats...Please tell us WHO?
Them Dems are our only hope in the short term....

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:26 AM
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13. Whoever is calling the shots
should be removed from their sphere of influence in the party since Americans are limited in their options. Playing politics in the ashes of the constitution isn't getting it.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 01:23 PM
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21. It seems you are suggesting a FILTER of some sort....I strongly agree
The DEM Party should implement a plan to run only those who adere to the Peoples Wishes/Concerns/etc....they gatta be held acountable to the Grass roots....

How they can pull this off is anyones guess...

Newt did it in his own GOP Way...He formed GOPAC... as time revealed...it was highly successful..but FLAWED...the basic Philosophy was corrupt from the onset...

Our Dems should be looking for a way to put power in the hands of the ABLE and focused on the Altruistic side of things.....can they do this??? Of course they can...will they? is another thing...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 04:07 PM
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25. Maybe a new PAC.
I don't know. Anyway, ignored people at the base level don't stay around forever to keep getting kicked around.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:50 AM
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15. Historically the Democratic party has been a slow but very deliberate party
The Republicans have spent the last 30+ years trying to unhinge various parts of the New Deal but only have gotten half way there. If History teaches us anything of how these things work then the next few years are going to be surreal times for some of those died in wool Republicans. Nobody can be sure how it will happen but then again nobody could deny how much impendence is there, pushing for it
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 01:30 PM
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22. In this day and age...ya think they can find ways to speed it up...
Change....it could go in the direction of the stronger FORCE...

Bad Change...when things go Bad...from Good Gov't to Bad forms...as we see in recent History all over the World....

Good Change...from bad conditions to Better conditions....IE French Revolution...Despotic Monarchy to Democracy....

Our Democratic Party should be instituting a National Entity that trains/schools/focuses/etc Future LEADERS adhering to Altruistic/Benevolent Principles....
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:38 AM
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14. We're not supposed to trust politicians to "protect us".
Supposedly, this is a democracy where we elect representatives, not leaders. The burden of protecting our freedoms is up to us not a bunch of bosses.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:53 AM
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16. Yes. It's a big job, but SOMEBODY'S gotta do it!
and I absolutely think Democrats can do it. The Cons have proven they're certainly not up to the task.
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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:59 AM
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18. It's NOT Up To Any Party To "Protect America"
It really isn't up to any party to protect America.

It's up to THE PEOPLE to preserve and protect America.

WE -- you, me, and the person over there behind the tree -- WE are the ones responsible for protecting America.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 10:06 AM
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20. Well get to it then because it is under attack.
Or do you think the Bush* Doctrine is the right direction for America?
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 01:32 PM
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23. The Constitution
The Constitution is a piece of paper, based on ENGLISH law, written several hundred years ago by a bunch of straight white males. It is not sacrosanct. It wasn't written by a god.

I'm not saying it's bad; I'm just saying I get tired of people treating it like it was sent here from some higher being and that nothing could ever improve on it. The amendments prove it can be improved on and often needs improving.

How could something written that long ago by such a narrow group of people POSSIBLY cover everything that has to do with modern life.

Just sayin'...
Lee
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 01:33 PM
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24. Democrats didn't fail at every level on 9/11.
:wtf:
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