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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:21 AM
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City of Seattle may ban microwave popcorn
SEATTLE – At Seattle City Hall there are rules.

No weapons, no animals, no loitering, no alcohol, no lying down, no smoking, no music, no fighting, no trespassing.

Could the next thing be no microwave popcorn?

"It can be a significant problem in the future," says Seattle Facilities Director Pedro Vasquez.






http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_061307WABmicrowavepopcornbanTP.43bf29d9.html


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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:24 AM
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1. Mmmmm Smells Like Teen Butter!
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puffthemagicdragon Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:25 AM
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2. ban all microwave use
aside from the productivity issue microwaves should just not exist in the first place. It is not good for us to constantly be radiated things in our homes...it puts carbon in the atmosphere as well. We finally let go of our microwave and have learned to live without it. eat fresh!
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:28 AM
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6. Sure, that's rational
:eyes:

:sarcasm:
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:29 AM
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7. Hmm-
Kinda hard on your teeth, popcorn is, until it's popped.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:33 AM
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8. Air popper. Fabulous.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:00 PM
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17. Where do you get one that doesn't
spit the popcorn all over the floor? I had one years ago, I think it was a Sunbeam and it worked great until it finally quit on me. The one I have now spits seeds and popped corn all over the place.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:08 PM
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19. Black n' Decker Handy Pop and Serve.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:12 PM
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22. Thank you!
I will be searching for one of those. The one I have now is a Toastmaster.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:09 PM
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20. Put The Top On........nt
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:13 PM
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23. Silly...
:silly: :rofl:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:04 PM
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18. Any Other Way of Cooking Will Burn More Carbon, Except Solar Cooking
Solar cookers are great, but they are also slow, and only work if the sun is shining.

> Eat Fresh

and raw?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:18 PM
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26. I doubt that running a microwave oven has a smaller carbon footprint than cooking over natural gas
That electricity has to be generated somehow. Transmission and the oven itself are far less than 100% efficient.
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Crandor Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:11 PM
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21. How, exactly, is a microwave's radiation going to hurt you?
Certainly not by heating, hardly any of it can get through the door. And if you think microwave radiation (less than 1 meV of energy) is going to damage your DNA with ionization, you must be utterly terrified of visible light (1.7-3 eV).

And this business about it putting "carbon in the atmosphere" - how does that work? Does your microwave run on gasoline or what?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:26 AM
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3. I heard this this AM on CNN. It seems lots of people are
putting that little envelope in the MW and walking away, thus letting it burn. There have been MANY calls made to fire departments because of this problem. All I heard this morning was that anyone working in a gov't building better stand by the MW whole popping corn OR ELSE!. They didn't really say what the or else would be.

Do they only hire Shrub's buddies to work in Gov't buildings in Seattle? I honestly can't believe this is that big of a problem!!!!
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:39 AM
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13. Makes me wonder if they've heard of timers.
I never used any popping corn until very recently. (And it's not exactly nutritious so I'm not going to get far into it anyway..) But not only did I never leave it unattended, I used sane settings and my perfectly working microwave timer did its job well. So I don't get it.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:41 AM
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15. I assure you, Seattle city workers are not "Shrib's buddies".
Seattle is one of the more liberal cities you'll find in the country, and I don't think I've ever talked with a city worker who indicated otherwise.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:14 PM
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25. Sorry, it's just that the only people I can think of who are dumb enough
to CONSTANTLY burn MW popcorn have been Shrubbies! I didn't mean to insult anybody.

All the MW's I've used in the past 20 years have had a "popcorn setting", so what is the BIG problem?????
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:24 PM
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29. I usually let mine burn a little bit (not to flaming of course)
it tastes better! :D
:popcorn:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:27 AM
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4. What a shitty "Hooked ya, Sucker!" headline from the folks at King5 TV!!!!
You read the headline and think you can't eat micro-popcorn if you LIVE in Seattle, but in actual fact, they just want to ban it from city offices!!

The biggest offenders are at the Justice Center, but overheated popcorn has also forced evacuations at the Municipal Tower.

Popcorn is not the easiest thing to cook. Who knows if it's really two, two-and-a-half or three minutes? An unsupervised bag can destroy productivity for all your co-workers....
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:28 AM
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5. "top news story of the day" at King5
:eyes:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:33 AM
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9. Popcorn Alarms Burn Seattle Officials
SEATTLE -- If you have to pop, know when to stop, Seattle city workers have been warned.

"We continue to see a high number of instances of employees burning microwave popcorn and triggering the building smoke alarms," the city's Fleets and Facilities Department said in a memo to employees in the city government's three downtown buildings.

"This is a serious issue which requires Fire Department emergency response, building evacuation and resetting of building systems."

City Hall and the Seattle Municipal Tower have both had popcorn-related evacuations. Last month, the 11-story Justice Center was evacuated because of burned popcorn _ for the eighth time in three years.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/14/AR2007061402496.html
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:34 AM
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10. Microwave buttered popcorn kills the folks that manufacture it.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:34 AM
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11. Misleading headline.
The city banning popcorn is not the issue. Microwave popcorn in city buildings is, based on the number of evacuations that have taken place in the last few years is the issue.

I'm not saying I support it -- but we ought to be accurate.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:19 PM
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27. Correct, and maybe the city should try hiring more intelligent people
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to follow the directions on the package.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:37 AM
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12. Just FYI for skimmers: this concerns city employees ONLY
Not in people's homes.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:40 AM
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14. good-- I used to work in an office where, once every 3 weeks, some idiot would burn popcorn
and not the, it was in for 15 seconds too long variety, I mean microwaved by several minutes too many, to the point where the popcorn and the bag it was in would turn black, and the entire office would smell like burned popcorn for a week.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:43 AM
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16. Triggering fire alarms can be expensive - and a nuisance
I worked at a company once where the boss simply couldn't stand the smell of microwaved popcorn (people do tend to burn it). So, he got us a popcorn machine! We had fresh-popped REAL popcorn in bags available all day long - for free. They also had a machine next to it with free pop, lemonade, and iced tea.

Where I work now, people are always burning toast. The smell of burned food really is offensive to some (me included).
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:14 PM
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24. Terrible
<g> I worked at a job once where they wouldn't let us make microwave popcorn. Their reason was that it's smell permeates and then everyone wants to go take a break...and I guess, eat popcorn. The smell does attract.

..but evacuations because people cannot figure out when it's through popping and they burn it... I just don't know...<g> I LOVE popcorn.
Lee
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:20 PM
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28. I see it as a real nuisance
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 12:22 PM by libodem
You can't use the elevators in a fire drill and so every one has to pile down the stairs. Evacuations are a PIA! Wheel chairs especially. It's an accident waiting to happen. Or accidents. Plus if the alarms go off all the time, people become complacent about rushing out of the building. What happens when a mild earthquake breaks the gasline and causes a spark (for instance)? Every second counts. The popcorn machine is brilliant. Bringing out every fire truck, ambulance, police car and ADT, for a popcorn incident, pulls them away from possibly responding to a real emergency. If you got caught calling 911 for a prank it wouldn't be so funny to face the music. Responding to burnt popcorn makes about as much sense. That stuff has a flash point that goes from a pop every 3 seconds to thick, heavy, BLACK smoke engulfing the breakroom and stinking it up for days. It sounds trite but I think the lost time from productivity and the danger of a trampling of employees going en-mass down the stairs are preventable outcomes. I sue if I'd got stomped.
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