Showing some respect for a freeper who has passed on

[The Straight Story]

I won't be like them and their posts about Andy, Monkeyman, etc and so on.

Tonkin was a well known poster at that other site, and I remember him more than most I do there.

I never spent endless nights searching out if he was really a vet, etc, as some on RW sites have done with MonkeyMan, nor did I spend any time like they did trying to make someone else's life hell (Ala Andy).

I took him for who he was and looked at his posts based on what he said, not who he said he was. I won't spend hours writing posts about whether or not he is really gone, whether or not he served, etc.

He contributed to their site for many years, he was a valued member of their site, and there is really no reason to go beyond that - especially now. His family is hurting and missing him, his friends there as well.

Death sucks all the way around. I have lost many over the years. We at DU have lost many friends. And now we see others have lost someone that meant something to them - even if we disagree on the issues.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1849275/posts

I know some don't have the stomach to go there usually, but there are some things which are bigger than politics - life being one of them. One of my best friends is a freeper type, and if he died today I would still mourn him, go to his funeral, and miss him. Sometimes, we step out of the political and into the human factor - more so when you are on the left :)

Hate is not something I want to embrace much, even when it comes to those who hold views that oppose my own. They may oppose us, but that does not mean I have to become what they are.

A friend to many died today, a father and a husband. I won't be like they are and dance on the graves of others and try to find reasons why we should doubt it - I will just say that I am sorry for those who feel this loss. Losing a family member is hard, as is losing a member of your online community is.

Rest well, and know as you pass into that other world that we here at DU did not attack you, did not question you, but that we as fellow humans in this online world recognize that you were once part of this information superhighway and will be missed - even if we were on opposite sides.

Rest well MonkeyMan and Tonkin, and may your debates light up the heavens above.

[Richard Steele]

1. "Death sucks all the way around." RIP, Tonkin. recommended.

[liberaldemocrat7]

64. Anyone who dies should get sympathy.

If I had only one wish in this world that I could get fulfilled by God, I would ask God not to let anyone die.

I don't celebrate anyone's death and certainly do not celebrate any Republicans death.

I focus on a lot of Republicans punishment of the middle class and the poor with their harsh Ayn Randian philosphy. That's what I have a problem with, so if I consider myself a compassionate person I don't want anyone to get ill and noone to die.

So therefore I'm sorry that this person has died and hope his family will heal and remain strong.






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[Ghost in the Machine]

2. A Beautiful Tribute, Straight Story! RIP Tonkin, rest well....

condolences to his family and friends.

:kick: & Recommend

[Hekate]

3. You're a good egg, Straight Story. KnR for a moving essay.

:hug:

[Faux pas]

4. Classy post, thanks. n/t

[eridani]

5. Not going over there, even for that

Pass along my indirect condolences if you want.

[Jonathan50]

6. I agree with your sentiment..

However, as Robert Heinlein wrote, politics is only slightly less important than your own heartbeat.

That is because it is the politicians who are going to tell you how to live your life.

[Name removed]

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[Nimrod2005]

8. K

[ComerPerro]

35. Thank you

[Bluebear]

9. Reading his profile page, it's sad . . .all this "Hanoi Kerry" stuff . . .

<sigh> Condolences to those who loved him. I do wish he had not been so consumed by bitterness ...



Hanoi Kerry is in in Violation of the
US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3

Violation of 18 US CODE 2381
TREASON

Violation of 18 USC 953
- Private correspondence with foreign governments

Violation of UCMJ Section 904. ART. 104.
- Aiding the Enemy.
"I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to expose Hanoi Kerry once and for all.

I will not tire, I will not falter,
and I will not fail.

I solemnly vow to do all I can to restore your honor
until I give my last breath on earth."

I spent 3yrs on a destroyer in the Navy from
'66-'69 as a Gunners Mate, GMG3.
USS CORRY DD 817 '68-'69 Gulf of Tonkin Yacht Club Member.
USS CORRY DD 817
Home port was Norfolk Virginia
and sailed with her in the North Atlantic,
Caribbean,(dealt with Cuban gunboats off of Havana in Jan '68)
thru the Panama Canal, across the Pacific to Viet Nam and back.

I was there the same time Kerry was.
I was there Oct'68-Apr'69 on the destroyer USS Corry DD-817
which sometime supplied PCF's and PBR's
and provided gunfire and gunfire support
in North AND South Viet Nam.

My ship may have even supplied
Kerry's boat in the Mekong Delta

USS Corry served in all areas of the Viet Nam conflict from patrol in North Vietnam & China waters,
providing gunfire support in the south, replenishing patrol craft in the Delta.
The USS Corry earned various ribbons, awards & the E efficiency award.
She sailed from Norfolk in Aug'68 & returned Apr'69.
The USS Corry was alongside the USS New Jersey
when she made her debut in the South Vietnam war theater.
Both ships were participants of Operation Bold Mariner in Jan'69.
It was the largest amphibious landing since the Korean conflict began.

Although there are many similarities between naval gunfire support
and Operation Sea Dragon (which ended Nov '68), they differ in two important areas:
naval gunfire support is normally fired at the request of troops ashore,
while Sea Dragon's mission is the interdiction of supplies and destruction
of military targets; and naval gunfire support is always conducted in South Vietnam,
while Sea Dragon missions are fired only above the demilitarized zone.

29 US Navy ships received gunfire from Viet Cong shore batteries.
My ship DID NOT get hit by the VC.


http://www.freerepublic.com/~6869tonkingulfyachtc/

[Hissyspit]

18. He was there (Vietnam) the same time as Kerry. Guess who wasn't?

George W. Bush.

Dick Cheney.

etc.

[TahitiNut]

24. He was a Gunner's Mate on a destroyer offshore, not IN Viet Nam.

The VC had no Navy. The North had almost no Navy. Any pretense of being *IN* Viet Nam is horse manure. While there certainly were Naval personnel on the ground (and in the rivers) in Viet Nam, doing destroyer duty was far cushier than even being a radio disk jockey in Saigon.

[ComerPerro]

36. actualy, I'd like to see some evidence that he was ever in the military at all, LOL

there are a lot of RWers who pose as veterans. Usually, the more amazing the story, the more likely it is bullshit.

[sanskritwarrior]

94. How about just keeping your mouth shut and not acting like an asshole?

How are you any different than the people that went after Monkeyman after he passed.......you sicken me.

[OzarkDem]

30. I feel sorry for him

if his life was consumed with bitterness and anger against good people. I feel sorry for whatever may have happened to him that made him so unhappy. Here's hoping he finds peace in the afterlife.

[Bluebear]

40. Indeed. Imagine leaving that hostile "profile page" for your posterity. nt

[Gato Moteado]

43. he wrote this.....

"I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to expose Hanoi Kerry once and for all.

I will not tire, I will not falter,
and I will not fail.

I solemnly vow to do all I can to restore your honor
until I give my last breath on earth."

***********************************

did he "expose hanoi kerry" before he gave his last breath on earth? jesus, this guy was insane.

seriously.....how does he merit a DU memorial in front of the hundreds of thousands of iraqi civilians and thousands of US soldiers who were butchered and maimed in the war that he supported until his death?

[Kingshakabobo]

48. I don't get it either.

I don't understand why we have to "honor" him??? I mean, not actively seeking his demise through denial of benefits/treatment and then not dancing on his grave after he dies would put us MILES ahead of the freeper trash.

[The Witch]

10. Respect for a *human being* that has passed on

freeper is only ever one part of a person's identity.

i'd go one step further and say with love and respect to the OP, let's not take the opportunity to boast about how we are so much better to dead people who disagreed with us... let's just say rip.

[rpannier]

11. Touching and Poignant

Thanks

[SalmonChantedEvening]

12. Condolences to Tonkin's loved ones

And his friends at FR

RIP :cry: :hug:

[LWolf]

13. I appreciate this, TSS.

My heart goes out to all who suffer loss, regardless of whether I agree with them about politics or anything else.

I also do not embrace hate.

[Cults4Bush]

14. I have empathy for any who suffer. RIP. n/t

[Skidmore]

15. When death comes, it is no respecter of creed or philosphy,

but is the great equalizer. It does us well to remember that we are all just trying to do our best to live our lives and in a short time allotted us. Thank you for posting your interaction with this man. Condolences to those whom he was nearest and dearest and to his community.

[Supersedeas]

16. Condolensces to his family and friends

[deutsey]

17. No one here gets out alive

The one thing that makes that awareness bearable for me is the ability for us to embrace each other's humanity, regardless of our disagreements.

I hope I never become so partisan or ideologically driven that I can't recognize the humanity, however flawed or wounded, in others who don't agree with me.

I also hope the favor will be returned in recognizing my flawed and wounded humanity.

[Cabcere]

91. Well said.

"Ashes and diamonds, foe and friend, we were all equal in the end." - Roger Waters/Pink Floyd, "Two Suns in the Sunset"

[peacebaby3]

19. May he rest in peace. I will keep his friends and family in my thoughts and prayers. n/t

[Lone_Star_Dem]

20. My heartfelt condolences to his family and all those who loved him.

Death is an equalizer. It knows no political party nor boundaries.

[lumberjack_jeff]

21. Thanks SS.

[Gato Moteado]

22. there are probably thousands of recently deceased people that deserve....

..a memorial on DU before a freeper ever does.

i'm not saying it's right to gain enjoyment out of someone's death. i'm just saying i wonder how this guy merits this kind of a post at DU. other than trying to say "look at us...we're better than freepers because we respect their dead", what is the reason for this type of thing at DU?

remember, these guys are the people that killed andy stephenson. these are the dirtbags that support the iraq war, destruction of the environment, bigotry, racism. these are the people that are against stemcell research and teaching science in school. these people are insane and disgusting. their victims need to be memorialized at DU. why even give any of these nazis this kind of attention here?

i'm a bit confused.

we've lost thousands in the iraq war that the freeptards support. some estimates say that hundreds of thousands of iraqi civilians have been killed. people are dying everyday from cancer, heart disease, diabetis and other diseases that could possibly be prevented with stemcell treatments. environmental standards have been lowered so now people are getting sick and dying from poisons in the air and water. we might be bombing iran next. big industries around the world continue to exploit human life and the environment. the freepers support all of this. so what, if one of them dies? people die every day. good people are dying as a result to the horror that the freepers support. why expend energy praising one of them when there are millions of victims of their shitty ideology that could be remembered instead?

i'm not trying to insult you or flame you. i'm asking a serious question.

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[spoony]

45. That's right, no one can tell YOU we're better than freepers!

Goddammit! You know the truth! :crazy:

[Gato Moteado]

49. i honestly don't know what you're talking about

i posed a legitimate question. i didn't call you or anyone a poser or holier-than-thou or any other name. i expect the same respect. rather than lashing out and attacking me (which is all too common here these days), if you want to discuss this whole issue, i'm willing to do so.

i saw what those people did to my friend andy stephenson. i knew andy long before he ever came to DU....in fact, i introduced him to DU. i saw the delight the freepers had in tying up the money meant for andy's treatment. i saw the glee they bathed in when he died. these are not nice people. now i'm not saying we should dance on a freeper's grave and taunt his family....i'm just asking how a freeper merits a DU memorial when he dies. the ideology he subscribed to and the corporate owned political party he supported are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in iraq...innocent civilians and our soldiers. why does he deserve a memorial before they would each get one here? that's my question and it's a valid one, and if you want to try to answer it and discuss it i am all ears. if all you have are rude comments and ad hominen attacks, please don't bother...i have no desire to get in a flame war with anyone.

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[sanskritwarrior]

95. WOW

welcome to my ignore list.......A human being is a human being regardless of their political beliefs........

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[Balbus]

26. I don't understand the purpose of this thread at all.

Yes, it's sad when anyone passes on, but why a specific thread for this particular person?

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[The Straight Story]

53. My reason:

On the internet we have a few places some of us call home, and we have places where we visit regularly (ie, the enemy camp...) - we get to know people here and there, and when they pass it does not hurt to mark that event.

I have known of this guy since about 2001, that's 6 years - and I am sure others here have followed his posts (with disdain).

Unlike when someone here we knows passes on, I don't want to be a grave dancer. He was a fellow poster whom I disagreed with, but who I nonetheless knew from my travels on the net.

Many people die each day we never notice of course - but there are some we know or know of who pass and we make note of it, as I did here.

We post here often of people we don't know who pass, soldiers, Iraqis who were bombed, etc and so on - so I don't think it inappropriate to note the passing of someone many of us might have interacted with (either through reading his posts or calling him out on his arguments).

I opposed the views of the person, but I also saw him as a person. And he has died. I and others here had a small connection to this person, much like some here did with Mr. Wizard and were sad to see him go.

I can separate politics and other things, and I hope others can as well. If you did not know the guy from his postings it is understandable why you might not care, even though you posted here on it.

But I did know him from my travels on the net, and others here did as well. And when people die I don't go looking up online how they voted, loss is loss - I can mourn for the loss of many people I barely knew, and that to me is better than celebrating their passing.

An online community has lost a valued member, even if it was someone I don't agree with. And that to me is sad. We might be enemies online when it comes to our politics, but then I could say the same thing about people I know and love in the offline world as well. We don't always agree (like me and my conservative dad) but I will nonetheless be saddened when that person has passed on.

I had talked to this guy many times over the years, we don't agree on some issues, but that does not mean I am glad to see him dead. Maybe some are glad when those who hold opposing views die, I am not one of them.

An old man passed away, a guy who did a lot more than post on a board we don't like. That to me is sad, and I don't see any reason to kick around the corpse because we didn't agree on things. He had a life outside the internet but sadly some people only see his posts and that is all there is to them. To me there is more. And I know to others here there is a sense of sadness that someone they had seen time and again has passed on.

If it does not matter to you, hide the thread and move on.

[Evoman]

63. I don't think anybody was "dancing on his grave " before you mentioned him.

Did you not know there might be negative reactions to this? If so, why did you bother? So that you could feel better about yourself when others behaved in the way you expected?

[Evoman]

62. I'm kind of with you.

I don't understand this....its too self congratulatory. It isn't real. I would never wish harm on this man, but I don't see why people think its important to post on this. If the OP was friends with this man, then I would offer my condolences, but I'm sure most of this guys friends and family probably hate me.

[dogday]

27. I didn't know who he was, but I've come to pay my respects

RIP Tonkin

[WinkyDink]

29. He was a human, and so his passing is to be mourned. I wish he had made better choices while alive.

[silverweb]

31. Well done.

"Rest well MonkeyMan and Tonkin, and may your debates light up the heavens above."

That says it all.

[datasuspect]

32. i'm indifferent about death in general

we all die. there is nothing you can do about it.



the way someone dies can be sad.

the type of person someone was while they lived determines whether they deserve to be honored.

i can't offer anything substantial or even really meaningful for someone i don't even know. sympathy? how valuable is it when you give it out all the time? it's a question of discernment.


knowing that someone might have advocated or actively promoted the vileness that the average freeper advocates and promotes just makes me think they must have been a horrible person while alive.

but to offer condolences or express sadness for a stranger wouldn't mean much, i'd look at it like posturing.

it's sad, but if i took the time to allow a necessary fact of life (death) to set the tone for my emotions, i'd probably never leave the house because i think i'd be overwhelmed by intractable sadness. many, many, many people die every day. and i think that if you MUST memorialize someone, there are thousands of better candidates.

in other words, i think this thread is trying to accomplish something other than its stated motivation.



it all seems so contrived and voyeuristic

[DS1]

34. posturing is a good word

[ProfessorGAC]

37. What DS1 Said

GAC

[johnnie]

39. What ProfessorGAC said DS1 said n/t

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

44. What johnnie said ProfessorGAC said DS1 said -nt

[Kingshakabobo]

46. What'd they say again?????

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

47. All your runaway subject line are belong to us. -nt

[Javaman]

51. Say what? nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

52. I was going to say "mental masturbation"

But yeah, whoever said it said it better.

[Gato Moteado]

42. great post....

i agree with you.

additionally, i wonder if the same people offering up this "respect" and these "condolences" for a freeper will do the same when bush and cheney pass on. would they have when they heard the news about hitler?

i just don't understand people tripping over themselves to heap praise on freepers, repuke rubberstamp senators that supported the iraq war and the rest of the vile garbage coming from the bush admin, and propogandist pigs like tony snow just because they're dead or dying. when i think about the countless people that have suffered and died as a result of this horrible ideology and the need for corporate pigs to make more money with no concern for human life or the environment, i really can't pretend to find sympathy for the ones that supported that ideology or political party and made the evil happen. my heart goes out to the victims of these nazis, not the nazis themselves.

it seems insane to me to all of a sudden forget the hundreds of thousands of butchered people in this iraq war....our soldiers and innocent civilians...to write a memorial to a freeper that supported it all.

what am i missing here? please, someone....help me out.

[Zhade]

65. You nailed it - posturing by "weeping" for a man who very well might have wanted many of us dead.

Fucking fake-ass "wah, I'm better because I can even mourn the passing of scum" posts are so arrogant - as if feeling sympathy for someone who advocated what this fuck did is somehow honorable.

I care so little about dead freepers that they're not even worth the time to piss on their grave. No one gets out alive, who the fucks cares about a bigoted asshole dying?

Are these posers going to be "honoring" b*s* when HE eventually dies?

[datasuspect]

67. an ignoble man deserves no memorial

[Horse with no Name]

89. This weekend while at work one of our Doctors was in an uproar over what another Doctor did

His parting words were that he would have a hard time getting enough piss together if the other guy was on fire.

[Moochy]

68. K&R this post

It seems so contrived because it is.

[IChing]

33. I can have empathy for his passing but "respect"?

Respect is an assumption of good faith and competence in another person or in the whole of oneself. Depth of integrity, trust, complementary moral values, and skill are necessary components.

Respect adds general reliability to social interactions. It enables people to work together in a complimentary fashion, instead of each person having to understand or even agree with every detail of another's method.

respect |ri?spekt| noun

1 a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements : the director had a lot of respect for Douglas as an actor. • the state of being admired in such a way : his first chance in over fifteen years to regain respect in the business. • due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others : respect for human rights.

I have empathy for his passing but I can not use the word respect in all honesty.

Still a good post SS and I nominated it.

[roguevalley]

38. I don't care what he was. My mother died May 28th and I know

what his friends and family feel. There is no honor in excoriating a deadman. THose who have will know what they did some day. I send best wishes and much peace to his family. As for the rest of it? He's gone ahead and he knows the truth now. Someday it will be our turn. I wish all the travelers well on their way to paradise.

[texastoast]

56. I'm sorry to hear about your mother

That's a hard one. May peace be with you.

And as you so well put, there is no honor in excoriating a dead man.

[roguevalley]

57. Thank you, honey. And peace be with you too. Blessings be to

all.

[lies and propaganda]

41. yeah.. I wont be as EVIL and HEARTLESS as THEY are.

RIP to any human that has passed.

My condolences to the people who loved him.

[Madspirit]

59. Right...RIP to Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Ted Bundy, etc. NOT...n/t

[lies and propaganda]

72. thats totally what i was saying..

yank much?

[The Stranger]

54. We are always trying to be "better than them," and they take advantage of it every time.

With the current Congress hijinx and gamesmanship, promising Reid crossover votes that turn out to be lies at the last minute, filibustering at the drop of a hat after demonizing Democrats for it before in order to fund the trillions-dollar catastrophe, and openly protecting criminals in the Justice Department in a Congressional criminal conspiracy of silence, and the list goes on and on.

Meanwhile, they obliterate the only planet we have, wage massive illegal wars against innocent peoples in foreign lands, and make plans for rounding up those that still think for themselves -- all the while some of us try not "to be like them."

[nini]

55. this thread would only be necessary if people here were trashing him

I haven't seen that so to assume anyone here would be an ass over his dying is unwarranted.

I remember a woman there who lost her son in a car accident and the result here was overwhelmingly supportive to her -as it should have been. So, I am unclear as to why you felt we needed a lecture on how to react to the passing of one of the freerepublic's posters :shrug:

[ecstatic]

58. May he rest in peace, but please don't pull this stunt again nt

[specimenfred1984]

60. Welcome, you're now the only person on my ignore list

Very well deserved.

[EFerrari]

61. RIP, Tonkin. And my best to your family.

[Breeze54]

66. Who?

:shrug:

[mzmolly]

69. RIP Tonkin.

I hope you are at peace with the truth, finally.

[stevedeshazer]

70. K & R for Tonkin

:)

[Xithras]

71. TonkinYachtClub died? That is a shame.

I haven't bothered trolling Flea Rethuglick in several years, but back when I did (whatever happened to the "Who can get banned the fastest" challenges?), I had quite a few exchanges with him over Kerry and the validity of his Purple Hearts. I may not have agreed with him or his political views, but it's still sad to hear of his passing. He may have been a Republican and a Freeper, but he was also a human being, and I will not hold grudges against the dead for holding different political views than my own.

RIP Tonkin.

[emilyg]

73. Thank you.

[Old and In the Way]

74. I didn't particularly like his politics.

I have no idea what kind of person he was outside of FR, but I thought he was generally a pretty hateful person on the threads I've read, that he posted on. I could lie and say his death saddens me, but I'd be a hypocrite. Hope he finds peace and love in his next life, cuz I don't think he found it here.

[Maven]

75. Christ. How much schmaltz does one man have?

Gawrsh and gee willickers and cornpone and warm fuzzies and all that grotesquery and if you don't agree with me you must eat babies for breakfast. Don't forget to recommend!

[JohnLocke]

76. RIP, Tonkin...I wish your life wasn't so consumed by hate.

[UrbScotty]

77. Peace and comfort to his family. (nt)

[dEMOK]

78. K&R for true 'Human Family Values'...

Thank you The Straight Story for your genuine thoughtfulness here.

Thank you for getting that there are no extraterrestrials present in the arguments among us mortals.

Well done.

[mhatrw]

79. Here's hoping that Monkeyman and Tonkin can at least debate across

the probable Gulf between them.

[RadiDem]

80. I'll pass

[dEMOK]

81. But you didn't...

;)

[Duncan Grant]

82. Oh, good grief (no pun intended).

DU is offering up 39 recommendations for this schlock? I hate cheap sentiment and this self-congratulatory superiority trip is nauseating -- to say the least.

Snap out of it.

[Matsubara]

83. Okay, somebody has probably already said this...

I would never denigrate some poster on a discussion board upon his death. It's just not something I would do.

But why would I even mention his name or his death in the first place? The only freepers I even know by name are RimJob and Kristinn (I think he is in ProtestWarrior).

So my question is, why should this person's demise even be mentioned here in the first place?

And why do you assume that people here would trash him?



Some of us may trash public figures like Jerry Falwell in death - I didn't agree with it, but he more than earned it.

But I have never seen people here trash some nobody freeper on the event of their death. I seriously doubt it has happened. That kind of disgusting denigration of posters is the domain of FR, and "that site" in particular.

So I have no warm wishes to send to Tonkin, because I don't know him from Adam, which is good, because that's why I also have nothing ill to say of him.

[BoneDaddy]

84. Class

That is what we need to show. We are the more evolved. The Falwell hate fest here showed us we still have alot of work, but this post is redeeming.

[Ganja Ninja]

85. Why?

I didn't know him and I won't miss him. I'm not going to go dance on his grave but I'm not about to get all misty eyed either. He's gone, tough break for him but that's the way the cookie crumbles. Why should I give a fuck?

[Puglover]

86. What?

Another paper due for creative writing? Wanted to run it by us?


Hmmm....

D+

Christ.

:eyes:

[Jamastiene]

87. Oh, give me a fucking goddamn break.

Has FR fucking bought DU now? Is that it? Go there and wax nostalgic about his death. We have more important issues to discuss here. Like how to counteract the harmful, negative effects of the policies that freepers endorse.

[Horse with no Name]

88. I'm not sure why we are doing this

What a post like this does--and the ONLY thing it does--is to open an avenue for them to look at us and say how awful we are when people basically say they don't really care that a freeper died.
Nobody sought out a place to dance on this man's grave, however, this post provided such a venue.
I know you meant well and it is a wonderful tribute as it were.
However, I highly doubt there will be something nice posted in their cesspool when I die and I am not going to shed crocodile tears for any of them.

[Dukkha]

90. couldn't care les about the enemy

and I will never feign sympathy for someone I did not know nor ever heard of. He's as dead as his very wrong ideology now.

[uppityperson]

92. No respect for dying. Nope. Condolences to those suffering, but no respect for mere death

we all will die and no one earns my respect by the mere fact that they died. Nope. Especially not someone who participated in harming so many people.

[Maru Kitteh]

93. If you want to be truly respectful leave off the "I won't be like them" qualifiers.

I understand what you're saying, but being better requires more that just walking the walk.

It requires taking that walk, without applause, canned or otherwise.