OMFG - The Newest Woman-Molesting Religious Freakishness....

[BlooInBloo]

This is so freakish it's hard to believe it's true. Is the IHT a reputable paper?


http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/11/news/fatwa.php

"CAIRO: First came the breast-feeding fatwa: It declared that the Islamic restriction on unmarried men and women being together could be lifted at work if the woman breast-fed her male colleagues five times. Then came the urine fatwa: It said that drinking the urine of the Prophet Muhammad was deemed a blessing.

For the past few weeks, the breast-feeding and urine fatwas have proved a source of national embarrassment in Egypt, not least because they were issued by representatives of the highest religious authorities in the land."

[DemExpat]

1. I had just read this article and had to re-read it several times

to try to discover if I was reading it all wrong....

Unbelievable and SICKO.

DemEx

[dsc]

4. It has been ages

how are you?

[dsc]

2. according to wikipedia it is part of the New York Times

To me this sounded like something from the Onion but evidently not.

[BlooInBloo]

3. I know! I'm speechless - and that's an accomplishment.

[nosmokes]

5. so just how much of muhammed's urine is there floating around? n/t

[JerseygirlCT]

6. I still don't get the urine thing, but I think I see where they

twisted the BF thing.

I imagine that a wet-nurse relationship was enough to call the nurse and child "family", in which case, veiling wouldn't be necessary.

So the ding-dong extended that to BF adults around whom the woman wanted to be unveiled...

[riderinthestorm]

8. Uhm, the fatwa specified "male colleague", that doesn't imply a wet nurse and child

relationship if you ask me.

Fucked. Up. Fatwas.

But of course the whole religion thang is fucked up in my book.

[JerseygirlCT]

9. Of course not, but follow the logic (or lack thereof!)

The person who issued this fatwa read the bit about the person you've nursed being allowed to see you unveiled.

The great scholar then made the jump to - well, if you want to be unveiled around him, he'd have to be someone you'd nursed.

Does it really make any sense? Of course not. It's a wonderful case of holding to the letter of the law while completely ignoring the spirit of it. (Not to mention a "law" that itself is weird to me. Don't want to be tempted by those women, boys? Buy yourselves some very dark glasses). But I can at least see where the line runs.

The urine thing? I've got not a clue.

[LostInAnomie]

7. Dang! Allah's prophet must have taken some seriously large pisses.

It's kinda odd that they would keep jugs of it just laying around though? What was he, the 6th century's Howard Hughes?

[frogcycle]

14. "jugs" of it? - you've got the wrong fatwa

:rofl:

[madrchsod]

10. how do they keep all these interptations straight?

[BlooInBloo]

11. Like all religions, they just make shit up whenever convenient.

[WinkyDink]

12. The International Tribune is THE international newspaper of record. HIGHLY reputable.

The only newspaper to read, if you're overseas.

[MonkeyFunk]

13. Any mullah can issue a fatwa....

just like any fundie preacher in the US can say something stupid.

I wouldn't put a lot of importance on this.

[riverwalker]

15. "Micheal Slackman"

Has an interesting history of articles. Hmmmmmm. No agenda there, eh?
C'mon people.

[BlooInBloo]

16. Who is he? What's his chip?

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. You think he's making up the embarassment felt about that fatwah?

It's perfectly true - there was such a clamour that the guy who made it is now facing a disciplinary committee - and he withdrew it, as Slackman's article says.

What agenda do you think Slackman has? It's an article about how fatwas are made, how people regard them, and so on.

[Edweird]

17. And chimpy&co thinks there's a chance of winning their hearts and minds.

Or bombing them into submission. As if.

[shance]

18. Being that there is such a Muslim slander campaign happening within our media, I am a tad

skeptical of yet one more "how can we make Muslims look as horrible and savage and hateful as we can".

I keep thinking of how the Native Americans were accused of so many things they did not do, (however the White man did do).

I would like to know how widespread this actually is, or if it is some isolated situation(s) that has been blown out of proportion.

The people who I would like to hear from are those actually living in Egypt and who aren't being paid to say something they are being told to say by those wanting to promote a story . If it is happening I would like to hear more about what is the core issue behind such an act. It's not normal and yet the people of Egypt and Cairo have experienced much trauma and oppression themselves and abuse of their own from outside warring factions and from the continuous Middle Eastern conflict. It is the women and children who are often the most victimized by those men who have in turn been the victims themselves and endured horrific abuse and trauma by invading and warring factions.

The reality is oppressive, abusive acts BREED yet more oppressive abusive acts. That is why war is a cancer that spreads for years and decades after. War is death and destruction. Nothing but abuse, heart ache, trauma, fear comes from war.

With that said, this is obviously an act of dominating and humiliating women.

You can can call anything a religious act, as ALL religions have done, but an abusive act is just that, an abusive act.

What it is stemming from is in my opinion the more important question.

I would say war and poverty are the primary calling cards for such abusive, domineering acts against women and children and of course men of occupied territories as well.

[Quantess]

19. That's the most perverted thing I've heard in weeks.

Gross, too. Religion sure makes people act loony.

[BoneDaddy]

21. ONe more example

of the insanity of Islam and religious nuttery.

[NuttyFluffers]

22. this is hysterical, i love this guy! he can make fatwas all day long for me

i'd love to bring him over for a rented booth at the Folsom St. Fair in San Francisco. BDSM fatwas would kick ass! Catholicism wouldn't have anything like this outside of a celise!

"if my husbear was in the middle of c***&ball torture and evening prayers were just about to start, and all we had were edible sugar undies, but they were going to melt because it was a really hot day, what should we do? and also, should we cover the glory holes before prayers?"

[MisterHowdy]

23. lol...gotta love religion

why are people so stupid?