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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:27 AM Original message |
Is there anyone here that believes in "mandatory sentencing laws" |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. you do kind of defeat your own point by mentioning your exception |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Maybe I mistated my point then, I am against mandatory minimum sentences |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. don't be a dick. No need to fucking insult me |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Are you sure that it defeats the point? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. not at all related. Not even close |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Would you say that civics, philosophy, and legislation are |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. it doesn't apply to this debate, so it is irrelevant. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm against all mandatory minimum sentences. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. LOL |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Heh, that can be the second stanza. - n/t |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. no-- and I include your exception in that disagreement.... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Don't forget that prison is big business, and they have an interest in keeping them full. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. yep-- as a Californian I'm appalled that my state is on track... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. It's no mistake. It's by design. - n/t |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
4. There should be much lower sentences for people convicted of non-violent crimes, |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
5. How about a mandatory minimum of two days of jail time for violent crimes... |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
6. There has to be a maximum sentence that can not be exceeded |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
10. There is a crime here in Florida that carried 4 sentencing points |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. Eliminating the judge is the whole purpose |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
13. Mandatory minimums make the judge little more than a clerk. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. It's part of an attempt to take discretion - and racism - out of sentencing. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. It writes racism into sentencing |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. It was an "attempt" to take discretion out of the process. It has institutionalized... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I agree with that |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. It was an attempt to remove discretion; it was seen as a reform... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. Saying It In Kindiness, This Is One Of The Most Outwardly Hypocritical Threads I Think I've Seen LOL |
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prayin4rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. I think the problem is that there is no such thing as a |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. I dunno. As far as Libby goes, I'd say the minimum... |
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prayin4rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yeah that three strikes law is appalling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. And California taxpayers are getting reamed to pay for it. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
30. Depends on the crime. Here in AZ drunk driving has mandatory sentencing |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
32. I think it's mostly a racist intrusion on separation of powers. |
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