Got this e-mail from a "friend" ....... it's about our allegiance to the flag.

[a kennedy]

actually she's just an acquaintance

Subject: Best Bumper Sticker--keep it going


Let's spread this one around the United States two or three times!!!!!!

AMEN TO THIS ONE!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm proud to send this one!

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO
THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD , INDIVISIBLE,
WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!

I was asked to send this on if I agree or delete if I don't. It is said
that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time
understanding why there is such a problem in having "In God! We Trust" on
our money and having "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just
tell the 14% to Shut Up and BE QUIET!!!

If you agree, pass this on, if not delete.

She writes.....

I AGREE !!!!

"God Bless America "

PLEASE KEEP IT GOING - - - IT IS WELL WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then here: is a picture of a huge truck with the pledge of allegiance written in huge letters on the tailgate ....... sorry my computer didn't pick that picture up.

I just trashed the e-mail.

[Pushed To The Left]

1. Telling people in the minority to "Shut up and BE QUIET" is pretty intolerant!

If the author of this e-mail is trying to bring people over to his or her side, telling the other side to shut up and be quiet just because they are a smaller group is not the way to do it. Small groups have a right to their beliefs just like larger groups do.

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[A HERETIC I AM]

6. Want to know why 14% can scare the rest so easily?

Because dissension in the ranks might just mean there is something wrong with the orders, that's why.

People who so adamantly require the silence of heretics do so because hearing opinions contrary to the norm indicates a crack in the facade. If there is a crack, it might just break apart and fall down and we just can't have that, now can we?

[patrice]

16. Right - No, we can't have that crack in the facade, because a cracked

facade would no longer serve its function, to keep the light of knowledge out and thus make the fearful feel safe.

[Solly Mack]

44. wonderfully said

[tanyev]

3. Reply all:

BLIND ALLEGIANCE TO FAILED LEADERSHIP IS NOT PATRIOTISM

Oh, and be sure to include lots of !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ron Green]

4. I especially love the abundance of commas in the text.

It's the way morons write: just as they speak.

[baldguy]

7. I do solemnly swear

that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

[BrotherBuzz]

21. I was a dumb enlisted draftee, my oath was a little different than the officers oath

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

[baldguy]

37. No matter which oath you took

Does it mention the flag?

[and-justice-for-all]

8. Not everyone in the US believes in Goad...

With "in goad we trust" I just mark it and when it comes to the Pledge, I just do not say "one nation under goad". Since the pledge is not the Constitution, I am not that concerned about it since the Constitution (The law of the land) makes no mention of goad at all. The simple fact that several individuals who drew up the Constitution and signed it, have made it clear that the US is not founded upon Chistiandom. More then not, those people had no interest in allowing the Chruch to continue its same opressions.

At first, with the early colonies, silly church laws did continue, there was no Freedom Of/from religion. It was not until the Cinstitution was established that it was made clear the there is to be a very clear seperation of church and state. The first admendment states that with no way of misinterpratation...This is NOT A COUNTRY FOUNDED UPON CHRISTIANDOM. The early colonies were cruelly relgious, but the Constitution changed all of that.

[jedr]

9. Of late;

I've been very intolerant of this type of spam. I reply and tell them that this is nothing more than someone spreading tracking for junk mail and that I don't want any of it sent to me and tell them I will block them if it happens again. If it happens again I block them and sign them up for Common Dreams and send a note that it may broaden their knowledge.:evilgrin:

[China_cat]

10. You might remind her

that the original pledge...written by a Baptist minister, btw...did not include any mention of any god. (It did, however mention equality for minorities and women but those clauses had to be taken out as objectionable.)

'under god' was added in 1954 as a sop the anti-communist HUAAC and the McCarthy witchhunts.

[a kennedy]

11. I'm gonna send this to her right now.....

thanks :pals:

[Left Is Write]

31. Funny how people like the email sender are loath to acknowledge that little fact.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Why should "God" bless America?

Why would any deity, worthy of the name, concern itself with a small portion of a small planet, circling a rather common star, which is on the fringes of a run-of-the-mill galaxy amongst billions of other galaxies in a universe that is quite likely, a universe among trillions of other universes?

All in all, the prospect seems downright silly.

[Oeditpus Rex]

13. And this is in response to what?

Someone woke up with weasels in their ass and decided to dash off an e-mail with a kajillion cc's to stir the wingers to pre-emptive action?

Apparently, if there's no current controversy about something on the "lib'rul agenda," the assbuckets will create one.

[Cabcere]

25. "Weasels in their ass" + "assbuckets" = 2 of the best phrases I've read all day

...or possibly even all week. :rofl: Thanks, Oeditpus Rex - I'm going to have to remember those! ;) :hi:

[Oeditpus Rex]

33. Feel free to propagate them

:hi:

I've been experimenting for the last couple months. You can stick a lotta stuff after "ass" and make it funny.

"Assbasket" is another good 'un. :D

[Cabcere]

34. Oh, I intend to...

:evilgrin: LOL. "Assbasket" is rather good...and I just remembered another good one that I saw on another forum - "ass bagel." I think the poster was demonstrating how to create swear words by combining anatomical features with breakfast foods, as I seem to remember "scrotum toast" being thrown around as well...haha. :P Good stuff. :hi:

[Oeditpus Rex]

36. Oooo!

"Scrotum toast" is really good because of... ah, I dunno what you call it in poetry or whatever, but it's the repetition of the long 'o', separated (and thus punctuated) by a syllable that sounds stupid on its own — rhymes with "duh," y'notice. :D

There's a rhythm (like a rhyming scheme, I guess) that makes certain word combinations work well together, and the 2-1 is one that works really well in humor.

I love playin' with words and sounds, man. Just love it. :D

[mzteris]

14. Pledge written by a SOCIALIST!

(gasp!)

Bet she doesn't know that.

[pansypoo53219]

15. the pledge is grade school clap trap.

i also do not give a shit about the flag. talk to me about the constitution.

[Left Is Write]

32. And it shouldn't be.

I have no problem with children learning the Pledge. I have a big problem with them being forced to say it. There's no purpose anyway - most kids are "pledging" something they don't understand at all.

[patrice]

17. Yep, Magical Thinking; that's what we need. If all of us just . . .

keep repeating the same magical phrases over and over, we will be "saved" and everything will be alright.

[BikeWriter]

18. My Sister-in-Law was the World's worst at that, until...

I began sending the following to her entire mailing list each time I got one.
Burlap Boy
I am a very sick boy little boy. My mother is typing this for me, because I can't. She is crying. "Don't cry, Mommy!" Mommy is always sad, but she says it's not my fault. I asked her if it was God's fault, but she didn't answer, and only started crying harder, so I don't ask her that anymore.
The reason she is so sad is that I'm so sick. I was born without a body. It doesn't hurt, except when I go to sleep. The doctors gave me an artificial body. My body is a burlap bag filled with leaves. The doctors said that was the best they could do on account of us having no money or insurance. I would like to have a body transplant, but we need more money.
Mommy doesn't work because she said employers don't hire crying people. I said, "Don't cry, Mommy," and she hugged my burlap body. Mommy always gives me hugs, even though she's allergic to burlap, and it chafes her real bad. I hope you will help me. You can help me if you forward this letter.
Dr. Johansen said if you forward this letter then Bill Gates would team up with AOL and do a survey with NASA. Then the astronauts will collect prayers from school children all over America and take them up to space so that the angels can hear them better. Then they will go to the Pope, and he will take up a collection in church and send the money to the doctors. The doctors could help me better then. Maybe one day I will be able to play baseball. Or maybe just use my lungs and heart, when the doctors make them. The doctors said that every time you forward this letter, the astronauts could take another prayer to the angels. Please help me. Mommy is so sad, and I want a body. I don't want my leaves to rot before I turn 10.
If you don't forward this letter, that's OK. Mommy says you're a mean heartless person who doesn't care about a poor little boy with only a head. What kind of heartless person are you that you can't take a couple of measly minutes to forward this to all your friends so that they can feel guilt and shame for the rest of their days, and then maybe help a poor, bodiless nine-year-old boy?
Please help me. This is not very much fun. I try to be happy but it's hard. I wish I had a puppy. I wish I could hold a puppy.
Thank You.
Billy 'Smiles' Evans
The boy with just a head, And a burlap sack for a body.

[Kali]

19. ...

:spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[MountainLaurel]

22. Ditto that

:rofl:

[BikeWriter]

24. Thank you! :-)

[BikeWriter]

23. Hee hee hee! I'm glad you liked it.

[porphyrian]

20. Yeah, "liberty and justice for all" means force people to shut up.

Anyone too stupid to realize they're contradicting themselves in the same paragraph gets blocked from my email.

[karlrschneider]

26. Your 'friend' must own stock in a comma factory.

:eyes:

[Sapphocrat]

27. Sounds like...

...you need to dump this acquaintance.

Send her this -- the original pledge, as written:

[IChing]

28. The" Blood Flag" of Hitler

Pledge of Allegiance of Hitler Youth
"I promise to do my duty in love and loyalty to the Führer and our flag."

Jungvolk Oath (taken by ten-year-old boys on first entering the Hitler Youth)

"In the presence of this blood banner which represents our Führer, I swear to devote all my energies and my strength to the saviour of our country, Adolf Hitler. I am willing and ready to give up my life for him, so help me God."



History of the blood flag:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blutfahne

I will not worship an object.

[Left Is Write]

29. Shut up AND be quiet? Isn't that overkill?

:crazy:

We can tell this email is important!!!!! Because of the exclamation points!!!!!!!!!! Everything important has to be! exclamation pointed into the next century!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Quixote1818]

30. Have them watch this 1946 video. It shows kids saying the pledge without saying God

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnshtxUI0Mg

[Rosemary2205]

35. What a great find, thanks. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

38. To whom it may concern, re: your moronic chain email:

FUCK OFF

That is all.

[ComerPerro]

39. the pledge was written by a godless socialist, and "under God" is not tradition, it is new

its a relic of the Cold War (which is why Repigs probably fawn over those words so damned much)

[RushIsRot]

40. Francis Bellamy was a Baptist Minister!

Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897).

[Hekate]

41. The Pledge has had many iterations since its inception."God" was not in it until Eisenhower.

I remember having to re-learn the Pledge in primary school. :eyes:

Hekate

[ComerPerro]

45. the "godless" part is sarcasm

[Hekate]

42. I got the same one a couple of years ago, only with two children praying to the flag...

The one I got had the exact text as yours, but with a kitschy, schmaltzy painting of two blond kiddies with their eyes raised to heaven and their little hands clasped in prayer--with the US flag waving in the background. I needed Pepto-Bismol for the nausea.

I was so infuriated at being told to "sit down and shut up" that I researched and wrote a five-page reply about our inalienable rights, the short history of the Pledge of Allegiance, and the very-intermittent history of "In God we trust" on our coins.

And then I hit Reply All to my acquaintance's extensive list of friends with whom she had shared this piece of crap.

Three of them wrote to thank me, and the sender was offended, but she finally took me off her list.

Hekate

[Leopolds Ghost]

43. IF THEY BELIEVE IN GOD, WHY DO THEY PLEDGE ALLIEGANCE TO THE FLAG??

Just had to get that off my chest. What Sunday School did these people go to?

St. Augustine, Paul, Thomas Aquinas, Sir Thomas More would not be pleased.