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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:10 PM
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Calories and sugar content in beverages.
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 03:15 PM by firefox_fan
I noticed that many bottled drinks these days APPEAR to have lower calories and sugar content. For instance, on the main content table, it says 15g of Sugars. However, for some reason, many bottled drinks contain 2.5 servings! So, in the end a small bottle still contains over 30 g of sugars. It's a scam.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:18 PM
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1. Obviously they are trying to fool you...
... by clearly printing this information on the label.

- Make7
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:23 PM
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3. No, LEGALLY they have to print the information.
The information is not presented clearly at all. Clear information would be the total content in the bottle, since that is the effective serving size. Who drinks 33% of a bottle and leaves the rest?
Instead of having the content per serving in big letters (and the number of servings in small letters on the side), they should write the total content in big letters.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:24 PM
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5. I think that most people will look at a bottle of soda
and know that it is more than one serving.

The stuff isn't exactly good for you anyway. A serving of that stuff should be small.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:28 PM
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7. I agree, it's bad for you... And it's bad bottles have more than one serving...
Who drinks only half a bottle and carries the other half around?...
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:36 PM
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9. What about a gallon of milk?
Should they print the total content in the bottle? Or a half-gallon bottle of orange juice? Print the total number of calories and total amount of sugar?

As far as I know 8 ounces is the standard serving size for labeling of beverages in the US. This makes it easier to compare nutrition information of equal amounts of different beverages. Although it does require you to do some math to get the exact numbers for the actual amount you consume in one serving. Although other people may choose to consume a different amount per serving, and therefore have to do their own math.

How difficult is it to multiply something by 2.5?

- Make7
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:49 PM
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19. You have a point. It should have BOTH.
Clearly indicated. It's not difficult for me to do the math. Or for You. But remember that many people have trouble figuring out a 20% tip amount at the restaurant. No child left behind!
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:23 PM
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4. Right.
Everyone should assume that an individual container of something that cannot be reclosed, such as a can of cola, is more than one serving.

I read labels far more than anyone I know and am still surprised by them.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:38 PM
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10. What is the standard serving size of a beverage? ( n/t )
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:44 PM
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14. 8 oz, I think....
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:47 PM
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17. Can you tell if a bottle has significantly more than 8 oz in it?
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 03:48 PM by Make7
Without looking at the label?
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:50 PM
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20. No idea... I think that volume estimation can be quite off
depending on the shape of the bottle...
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:18 PM
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2. Everything becomes a scam when a government allows capitalism to run wild.
It seems to be getting worse every day.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:25 PM
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6. You mean 37.5 grams?
The servings/container is listed right there next to the sugar. It's hardly a scam when they explain it to you right there.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:31 PM
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8. I read all labels now- they can be deceiving
and I agree - not everyone realizes that the numbers are "per serving" and a package can contain more than one serving.

I just lost 38 lbs on Weight Watchers - you can bet I'm reading every part of every label. It's very eye-opening!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:40 PM
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11. I don't drink any of that crap anymore...
just lemon squeezed into water. No sugar, no fat, no calories.

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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:43 PM
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13. that looks so refreshing.. see advertising can work to trick you.
no onder coke does so well.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:42 PM
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12. And if anyone ever has fresh squeezed oj or some other juice..
it is naturally sweet. I question why so much sugar has to be added to these juices... what is happening during the processing that the natural flavor is lost and substituted with sugar?
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:47 PM
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16. True.... I don't get it either...
Drinks are just too sweet. I suspect the real motive is addiction and mood altering (not unrelated). Sugar and coffeine highs make one feel "good" temporarily and are addictive (you feel bad afterwards or if you don't have them). Most drinks would probably be much better tasting with 25% or less of the sugar in them.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:47 PM
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15. its hard to avoid HFCS in most drinks
Water tends to be safe thou.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:48 PM
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18. A Serving Has ALWAYS Been 8 Oz's. A 20 Oz Bottle Has ALWAYS Been 2.5 Servings.
There's no conspiracy here.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:51 PM
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21. Perhaps there are more 20 oz bottles than in the past.
I just started noticing the 2.5 servings...
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:53 PM
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22. With All Due Respect, Maybe Blaming The Company For Your Lack Of Paying Attention To Detail, Isn't
exactly the appropriate action here.

I find nothing wrong with the bottle and no reason whatsoever for your objection. It almost makes no sense.

But the premise that they are somehow trying to hide the true calories of their beverages is quite silly on its face, when it comes down to it.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:09 PM
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27. On the contrary. I pay attention to detail, since I noticed...
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:01 PM
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24. a can of soda is 12 ounces - 1 serving. A bottle of "Naked Juice" is 15 ozs- 2 servings
It isn't standardized, and they package things so you think you are getting one serving when you are really getting two. Who drinks half a bottle of juice? or even half a 20 oz. bottle of soda?

This is one reason there is an increase in obesity here.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:05 PM
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25. The Reason For The Increase In Obesity Is Moreso Due To Laziness And
lack of personal responsibility. It is not because the labels say 2.5 servings.

I'm sorry, but if someone doesn't know how to read a calorie label then that's their own damn fault. Seriously. I'm amazed at the things that people will so readily blame on others.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:11 PM
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29. Wrong. The Obesity Problem Is Due To The Cheapness and Abundance of Bad Food
You can eat crap at McDonald's for a dollar, and there's a McDonald's every where you look. However, if you want to eat healthy, you pay more and you have to hunt down the good food.

So, if you're poor and pressed for time, guess where you'll eat.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:14 PM
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32. I even saw this credit card that gives you 3% back on Fast Food purchases.
But only 1% for regular foods. WTF is that?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:19 PM
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35. I Consider That To Be A Monumental Cop Out.
It's one more way to deflect away from personal responsibility.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:13 PM
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30. Well, most people out of high schools cannot read basic graphs...
But they are still human beings who need to stay healthy and function...
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:20 PM
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36. Sorry, I Completely Disagree With The Premise.
I don't believe in the need to have to spoon feed everything to society. The bottle is labeled in a perfectly appropriate manner.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:29 PM
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40. That's OK, we understand that you can read the labels and do math!
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:10 PM
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28. Well said. And right on target.
Plus discounts for the jumbo size of evertything. And 3 for one schemes.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:13 PM
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31. Who pulls a 20 oz. bottle of soda from the refrig at 7-11 and only drinks half of it?
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 04:14 PM by Beaverhausen
What about those Big Gulps? Are they one serving?

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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:15 PM
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33. Proponents of abstinence do. Or they says so. Ahahahah!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:24 PM
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38. People who pour soda into cups, on ice.
I'd think people who drink Big Gulps probably aren't worried about calories anyway.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:30 PM
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41. What's Big Gulps?
A giant soda bottle?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:34 PM
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42. They are a 32 oz cups to get sodas from the fountain at 7-11
I think it's 32- it might be more now.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 05:00 PM
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43. Jesus... That's a diabetes recipe...
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:16 PM
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34. I did not know it was not standardized...
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 04:16 PM by firefox_fan
Are you sure?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:23 PM
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37. I just looked in the refrig here at work. Soda cans are 12 Ozs...
and it says one serving. The naked juice was 15.2 oz and said "about 2 servings."

the bottle of water here that I am drinking is 16.9 oz and is 2 servings.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:26 PM
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39. Wow... I'm sure they consulted their ad folks...
And that the layout of the label is designed to obfuscate (within the constraints imposed by the law).
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:00 PM
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23. I prefer bottles and cans to actually be 1 serving instead of 2.5.
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 04:16 PM by cat_girl25
That way the price could go back down to 50 cents.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:06 PM
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26. That's right! Instead, soon they'll make one serving bottles
and still charge the same amount! Let's face it, once you open the bottle, you drink it all. A bottle should be one serving. Nobody carries around a half empty bottle.
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