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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:13 PM
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Why not sue the admin. using the Civil Rights Act of 1871?
It still has the statute allowing lawsuits of state actors of civil rights violations (ie, vote caging, warrantless wiretaps, ad nauseum). Here's the Wikipedia:

Section 1983 does not create new civil rights. Instead, it allows individuals to sue state actors in State or federal courts for civil rights violations.<1> To gain federal jurisdiction, i.e., access to a court, the individual must point to a federal civil right that has been allegedly violated. These rights are encoded in the U.S. Constitution and federal statutes.

The statute reads:<1>

Every person who under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, Suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer's judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

For most of its history, the Act had very little effect. The legal community did not think the statute served as a check on state officials, and did not often litigate under the statute. However, this changed in 1961 when the Supreme Court of the United States decided Monroe v. Pape, 365 U.S. 167. In that case, the Court articulated three purposes that underlay the statute: "1) 'to override certain kinds of state laws'; 2) to provide 'a remedy where state law was inadequate'; and 3) to provide 'a federal remedy where the state remedy, though adequate in theory, was not available in practice.'" Blum & Urbonya, Section 1983 Litigation, p. 2 (Federal Judicial Center, 1998) (quoting Monroe v. Pape). Pape opened the door for renewed interest in Section 1983.

Now the statute stands as one of the most powerful authorities with which State and federal courts may protect those whose rights are deprived. Section 1983 of the Civil Rights Act provides a way individuals can sue to redress violations of federally protected rights, like the First Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment and Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution. Section 1983 prohibits public sector employment discrimination based on race, color, national origin, sex and religion. Section 1983 rarely applies to private employers.


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Has anyone else thought about this? Would the ACLU have a good chance if they sued the feds?

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:17 PM
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1. Knowing the ACLU, I would think they have already looked at this?
:shrug:
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:26 PM
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2. Number 1...finding the violated pesons...
How does someone know if their vote was counted or not if they are half way across the world in a desert or homeless on the streets? Then you must have evidence... Evidence that won't be thrown out by the judge for some circumstance or another.

I'm not a lawyer, but I think it would take more than e-mails held by a reporter.. I think they would have to have more evidence. It may start unraveling as the gonzalez story unfolds.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:30 PM
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3. Hmmm. I bet the BBV stuff might have some relevance here.
<flame suit on>
I'M JUST SAYIN'!
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:30 PM
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4. I thought about that... what about all those signs put up in VA in black
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 12:32 PM by gulfcoastliberal
neighborhoods saying they couldn't vote (edit: this was the '06 Webb/Allen contest)? Surely there must be some evidence remaining. If the dems really went after Rove, it would blow the lid off. We'd have names, dates, etc.

I wonder if Jose Padilla's lawyers thought about the Klan Act to try to force the feds to move the case to civil court?
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:34 PM
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5. This should also be used to stop repukes from requiring 5 forms of ID to vote, too.
The voter ID regs in force in some states definitely prevents people from voting and I'd doubt they'd have a hard time finding some of the newly disenfranchised.
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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:29 PM
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6. Start with Palast's caging lists....
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:46 PM
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7. I would def. start rounding up prople to sustain a law suit there.
I'm not sure that there is enough time left with this admn. to finish a hearing on this. I'm not sure if it could be applied retroactively. Its obviously illeagal..
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