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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:39 PM Original message |
The two murderers from the Jonesboro, AR massacre are walking free now |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. "That should concern us all." |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. I understand your rationale, but not your conclusion. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. So you'd prefer to lock up pre-teens for life? |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yes, life in prison would have been the appropriate punishment |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Did you read the body of that post? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
79. I worry about them being free, not because of "punishment," but for other people's safety |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-08-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #79 |
112. Look what happened when they let Michael Myers out. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. You honestly believe that locking murderers away for life is as "sick" and wrong as |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. In both cases, you're maliciously destroying a life. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. You're right, its better that they have a clean record, completely clear. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I haven't. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. not advocating draconian punishment, but not advocating your "no harm no foul" position either |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. And that's stupid too, ain't it? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. heh, just as I posted |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. 11 and 12 year olds? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Damn, I should have gone on a massive killing spree when I was 11. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Exactly what point are you trying to argue? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I am just wishing I had done more when I was under 18, seeing as I'd have a clean slate |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Do you wish you'd spent eight years in prison? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. that's barely anything for the crime they committed |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Eight years is a tremendous amount of time in prison. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. people who do less spend longer in prison. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Adults who commit second degree murder get about that long. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Deleted message |
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Speak for yourself. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. what I am trying to say is most people here are only pretending to care |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Heh. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. thats true, gun nuts with a history of mass murder are nothing to be afraid of |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Are you afraid of them? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. nope, fortunately for me they aren't in my area and probably won't be anytime soon |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. So then you're a NIMBYist? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I think I made my point clear. Spin it all you want. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-07-07 03:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
104. Not affraid of them, Affraid for the people around them. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. I will give you 7 to 2 odds one or both of them commits another felony soon. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
80. You'll shoot them point blank, unprovoked, let's say, if you see them eating at a McD? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. No. I would wait until they finished eating. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-08-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #82 |
108. You ARE serious, aren't you? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-08-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #40 |
111. Do we know they are remorseless? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
93. Five Murders, maliciously committed... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Ridiculous assertion |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. when I was 11, I knew it was wrong to murder people. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Knowing it's wrong is one thing |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Well, god damn, 10 years, that's worse than murder, isn't it? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. We'll have to agree to disagree |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. yeah, like you honestly give a shit. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. I give a shit about the system |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I'm sure you do. Either that or you get off seeing yourself as a protector of these two killers |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Deleted message |
ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. no, I can just see through your bullshit. I am guessing you don't really believe in anything |
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fishnfla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. bingo |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. Why exactly are you defending these fucking monsters? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
66. They planned this, gathered equipment, executed it, and didn't comprehend the act? |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. Maybe they should have to register with the police wherever they choose |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. there are good reasons for treating juvenile offenders this way.... |
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Aristus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. "Society is cruel, you know, especially towards a murderer, you know." |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. Society is cruel.... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. Dang, if only they were smoking marijuana, they'd never see the light of day. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. They were so young. It doesn't excuse what they did, but.... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
89. That is chilling |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
21. Mitchell Johnson has already been re-arrested on carrying a prohibited weapon and |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. guess we should celebrate him exercising his 2nd Amendment rights |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
88. Christ. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
27. It doesn't concern me in the least bit...they SHOULD be released |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. OK, while I agree that SOME kids should not be held accountable for their crimes committed at a |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Oh |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Let's see, he tried to kill his mother, but shot his father who was defending her instead. Then he's |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. Yeah, now I see you're exactly right. Kids will be kids. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
69. Only a naive and foolish society would let an unrepentant violent murderer go free |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
32. There is a reason that children are treated differently than adults. |
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vickitulsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. This whole case was extremely upsetting from the git-go, |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. "insufficiency of the punishment" |
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vickitulsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. I consider their punishment insufficient for the taking of five lives, |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-07-07 04:31 AM Response to Reply #53 |
105. Mate, I don't care how many times you, or others, might have said that before. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. Me too. The argument "but they were young and didn't know/understand" is moot |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
55. Are You Friggin Serious? Jesus Christ I Feel For These Kids. I Think Their Sentences Were Harsh |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. Deleted message |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. You're Either Kidding Or Responding So Melodramatically That A Response Isn't Even Warranted. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. So is this a non-response? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. No, It's An Interim Inquiry LOL |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Send them over to my neighborhood. You will find out what I am saying. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. karl, have you a personal connection with these 2 people or their actions? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. No, not these particular two. A similar pair who killed my friend. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Thank you for your reply, makes what you write make more sense |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Thanks. I know I'm often perceived as an uncompassionate ass |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Each of us has things that make us as we are, and others won't know until we share it. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Peace to us all, hopefully! Maybe it's a pipedream but it's better than nothing, nu? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #75 |
92. You sound as dangerous as they do. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-08-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #92 |
109. I wonder what will happen if he casually meets an innocent person that has the bad luck... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Would this be incarcerated until 21 then executed, or executed at 11 and 13? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Deleted message |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-08-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #83 |
110. OK, that makes it official. You're fucking nuts. -nt |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-07-07 04:43 AM Response to Reply #77 |
106. If they are comprehensively diagnosed as unredeemable... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #68 |
103. Karl, I'm in complete agreement with you and could fucking care less... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
90. What about the childhoods of the 5 kids they murdered? And 13 is definitely old enough to know |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. Just For The Record, My Post Was Supposed To Be Sarcastic. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
101. You FEEL for them? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. LOL I Really Thought The Sarcasm Would Shine Through But It Didn't. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
57. If the prison system were designed to reform people... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
58. Sounds like they don't do a good job teaching grammar in the joint |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
63. Kind of a Catch 22 |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
65. I think most people deserve a second chance. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Seems like they should have to report to a parole officer at least. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
71. Pledge of allegiance to the all mighty gun...no further questions please |
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jilln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
78. I bet when you started this thread you had no idea how passionately people would defend those kids. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
91. They were 11 and 13. What do you advocate? Life in prison with no parole? |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
94. Golden is a goddamn SOCIOPATH who WILL KILL AGAIN |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. I'm just beginning to read about this case.... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
95. That seems in line with how the justice system ought to work for juvenile offenders |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
96. There is something fundamentally wrong when kids this young... |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
98. "Golden's grandfather died in January." |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I don't see punishment nec but being monitored for safety of all |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-07-07 05:16 AM Response to Reply #99 |
107. Becasue parole would defeat automagic clean slate all juvies are handed, |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-08-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
113. only time will answer the question |
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