NBC "Proof of Connection between Iraq and Iran" mmm not so much

[underpants]

I saw this last night.

It was titled then as it is now on the NBC News video site as "Reality Check: Is Iran aiding terrorists?

Now the title (on the Lexis transcript page) is "Proof of Connection between Iraq and Iran"

Before you see that Andrea Mitchell report--- that the Bush claims are just that with no hard evidence to support them I found this

From John "What is the purpose?" Gibson
WHY IS NBC NO LONGER WORRIED ABOUT TERRORISM?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244319,00.html
Gibson complains that NBC (supplanting ABC's Brian Ross as enemy of the state #1) doesn't have a show just like "24" and that someone at NBC dared question if the show's (conservative) producers were using it for propaganda.

Okay here is the NBC report.

http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100007221&docId=l:565475150&start=8

As the civil war in Iraq grows deadlier by the day, the Bush administration is increasingly blaming Iran. What does the US claim? First the ambush in Karbala killing five US troops 11 days ago. US and Iraqi military officials say Iran may have provided money and training for the attack. But what is the evidence? Iraqis say the ambush was so well planned, Iran had to be involved. But tonight a senior US intelligence official tells NBC News "you can't prove it at this point."

Mr. BRUCE RIEDEL (Former Central Intelligence Agency Official): The argument that just because it was sophisticated it couldn't be Iraqis is a little bit tenuous. The Iraqi insurgency has shown a great deal of sophistication over the last four years.

MITCHELL: Another US claim that Iran is providing weapons to Iraqi insurgents and militias, shoulder fired rockets and shaped charges like this one, explosive devices known as EFPs.

General MICHAEL HAYDEN (Central Intelligence Agency Director): (From file footage) The EFPs are coming from Iran. They are--they are being used against our forces.

MITCHELL: What is the evidence? US officials say they found proof on computers seized three weeks ago from an Iranian office in Irbil, but tonight a senior US official tells NBC News, "Even if the weapons are made in Iran, it doesn't mean Iran provided them directly."

Third, what about the US claim that Iran's Revolutionary Guard is helping to target US and Iraqi forces in Iraq. Intelligence analysts say after Saddam fell, Iranian agents did pour into Iraq. But experts say 90 percent of the attack on US forces are from Sunni insurgents or al-Qaeda, not Iran.

So why would the administration want to blame Iran?

Mr. ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI (Former National Security Advisor): A lot of the stories we hear are, in fact, prefaced by the word "allegedly." In some ways it's reminiscent of the hype that was being developed before the war with Iraq.

MITCHELL: Critics say blaming Iran could in part be a useful diversion to deflect criticism from US and Iraqi failures in the war. Andrea Mitchell, NBC News, New York.

WILLIAMS: When NIGHTLY NEWS continues in just a moment, the latest airline security tactics. How about giving--getting everybody at the airport to now be on the lookout?

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. a whiff of actual balanced investigative reporting...

how refreshing!

[underpants]

2. Video is here (with ad)

Reality check: Is Iran aiding terrorists?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/

[redqueen]

3. Why the title change?

To get more readers?

[underpants]

4. No idea

Maybe LExisNexis does its own titles.

[redqueen]

8. Seems downright irresponsible to me. n/t

[kenny blankenship]

5. I know for a FACT they are connected

Iran has contacted Iraq over a length of 900 miles--and not sometimes, but every day!

[underpants]

6. Funny I thought about that when I saw the other headline

Well, you know, they ARE connected :eyes:

Yes they are connected.

[kenny blankenship]

7. Yeah they can pretend they have nothing to do with Iraq

but the fact is that they're hanging all over Iraq like a cheap suit.

It's amazing how some countries just can't keep to themselves and mind their own business, but instead they go looking over the horizon to meddle in another country's affairs. It's like an illness or something. Thankfully we know nothing about that here.

[LSK]

9. My question is, why couldnt have the Karbala attack been done by Al Queda???

You know, they guys who supposedly did 9/11??? Wasnt that a sophisticated attack???

It seems to me that we no longer need to scare the Americans with Al Queda, but now Iran is the ones they want to scare us with.

This is all such BULLSHIT.

[underpants]

10. Well there is also the fact that it goes against everything we have heard

from the administration about the Iraqis that we have trained.

We hear over and over about the gains they are making and how "sophisticated" they are becoming then this happens and it is "Way too sophisticated it must be the Iranians"

but then list of their BS is endless.

I have seen the depictions of this and it isn't that sophisticated. Looks like normal movie type stuff to me. The point here is that they got through those checkpoints--clearly they had inside info on where the Americans were and help getting there.

[redqueen]

11. By "help" do you mean the Yukons? The weapons?

Or some kind of documents or someone to vouch for them?

[underpants]

12. Someone AT the checkpoints

if not the whole checkpoint (they were manned by Iraqi forces not US forces).

[redqueen]

13. Thanks. n/t

[LSK]

15. and that the fact that the Iraqi Police/Army is infiltrated by Insurgents

As per the ISG Report.

[BOSSHOG]

14. What grabbed me tellingly

was Brian Williams intro (Brian can be so subtle) to the story. In so many words, Brian said bush and the other lying motherfuckers in his administration fucked us with WMD, why the fuck should we believe the lying motherfuckers now. With more on this story trashing bush like the worthless lying sack of shit he is is our old gal Andrea. Cue that tape!

I switched to NBC after Katrina because they did and still do the best reporting on New Orleans.