So, now we're blackmailing Sudan for oil?

[porphyrian]

Is that what these sanctions are about? Is anyone in a position to stop this administration going to do anything to actually stop them in our collective lifetimes, or can we stop wasting our hope on that already?

[magellan]

1. Yep.

Yep. No, and yes.

Oil is the reason we haven't come down harder on Khartoum to stop what Bush** admits is genocide.

[porphyrian]

4. I mean, I guess it's nice of him to finally pay attention to Sudan...

...but it's pretty fucked up that he's more concerned with the black gold there than the black people. Anyway, I'm afraid you're right, I was just asking as a formality.

[magellan]

6. I kind of thought you were

But I couldn't resist, this is one of those (many) stories that gets so little attention, relatively speaking. I doubt many know that Sudan has oil and everyone's fighting over it at the expense of the Darfurians.

[porphyrian]

7. Well, if we don't have to see it, we can pretend it's not our problem.

It's easy to allow a genocide that doesn't interrupt American Idol.

[whistle]

2. One of these events will trigger WW III this summer, Iran, Iraq, Sudan

....or some other hot spot area. Dick Cheney has been agitating for this to happen and with no impeachment action against him, the conflict on a massive scale is inevitable

[porphyrian]

5. I'm not a big fan of absolutes, so I wouldn't say "inevitable..."

...but I don't doubt that you're correct in identifying at least one plan in the chute.

[whistle]

12. Okay, rather than inevitable, I'll revise that to read unchallenged

....by the U.S. congress so Cheney and Bush will just fall into the circumstances that make it happen

[porphyrian]

14. That's accurate, though Kucinich at least tried.

Were it not for he and the few others in Congress who seem to know their job isn't merely corporate servitude, I'd have written politics off altogether by now, I'm afraid.

[porphyrian]

3. Oops, wrong place... - n/t

[madrchsod]

8. china is the main player in sudan.

they back the government and will not use their influence to stop sudan from the genocide in darfur. the usa and europe want china to do something but so far china has`t. what china really fears is that the european nations and the usa will boycott the olympic games. the word is that some european nations may but the usa will show up,remember jimmy?

the usa and europe has to stand-up against china or darfur will be inhabited by ghosts

[porphyrian]

9. Therein lies the wrinkle - China is covering a large part of our debt.

I don't think it's a coincidence that we've been biting a bunch of shit sandwiches with "Made in China" stamped on them.

[lonestarnot]

11. Now there's a war for 'em.

LMAO :rofl:

[TechBear_Seattle]

10. We can stop wasting our hope

I mean, come on! You expect Congress to do squat? It's not like it is their duty or anything. :eyes:

[porphyrian]

13. Smacking... head... against... wall...

It's easier to get hungover day laborers off their ass and working.