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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:46 PM
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Hit piece making the rounds: Reply to All.
An evangelical acquaintance (who is extremely hypersensitive to any perceived "disrespect" or slight against her particular brand of Christianity) sent me the following email. My "reply to all" response follows immediately after.

As noted below, we are not sure of the accuracy of this article, but it's certainly worth checking out.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2008
Subject: Fwd: Fw: what a black columnist says about Obama

Not sure how factual this is, but it makes interesting reading and does invite us to look more deeply into Obama's politics.

Read the bottom especially.

Ken Blackwell - Columnist for the New York Sun

It's an amazing time to be alive in America. We're in a year of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first frontrunning freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a first.

We won't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand. We won't arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender. Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.

The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him. Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's the next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.

Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs. Clinton. Never in my life have I seen a presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda, and he lost.

Complete article here (to avoid violating the DU four-paragraph rule.) The entire article was copied in the email.


My reply:

Wow.

First of all, the New York Sun is a tabloid rag that I wouldn't be caught dead reading, let alone using as a source.

Second of all, Ken Blackwell is an extreme right-wing nut job, nearly as insane as Alan Keyes.

Thirdly, is the insinuation that because Blackwell is African-American, his opinion about another African-American is de facto more accurate?

Every assertion in that opinion piece is a distortion or an outright lie. And no, I'm not going to dissect it line by line because I've learned after wasting countless hours doing that type of thing that people who want to believe lies and tripe will believe them whether evidence to the contrary is presented or not.

Anyone who wants to know the truth about Senator Obama should investigate objective sources -- like his senate record (state and federal) and the actual text of his speeches and writings (rather than distorted paraphrasings).

I also strongly recommend both of his books, Dreams From My Father and The Audacity of Hope -- especially the first, which is obviously from the heart, introspective and insightful, and absolutely fascinating reading.

It's always a very good idea to ascertain the accuracy of a hit piece before circulating it; otherwise, it's known as slander (also against the 9th Commandment).


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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:48 PM
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1. Is it
seriously THAT Ken Blackwell?
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:53 PM
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2. It would seem so.
This is the only ID given at the end of his columns, but it links him to Ohio: Mr. Blackwell is a fellow at the Family Research Council, the Texas Public Policy Foundation, and the Buckeye Institute in Ohio.

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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:30 PM
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3. Yeppers
It's THAT Ken Blackwell. Mr. Class, Mr. Credibility. That's where my favorite :sarcasm: Secretary of State is currently employed.

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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:04 AM
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4. Telling.
I found it oddly interesting and very telling that neither his picture nor any reference to his past tenure as Ohio Secretary of State is mentioned in the little blurb at the end of his columns.

You'd almost think he actually had some shame or was hiding something....

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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:43 PM
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14. Shame, not so much
I think he wants space between his notoriety as SOS in Ohio while building his credentials with the Christian Right and the super conservatives. Lately he's being investigated for giving nice, big bonuses to his staff on the way out the door as SOS.

http://www.ohio.com/editorial/opinions/17136751.html
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 07:18 AM
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5. Remember when
Kerry was labeled the most liberal senator? I am sure that if somehow Ben Nelson became the dem nominee a way would be found to portray him as a flaming liberal.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:23 PM
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6. I'm a Buckeye and Ken Blackwell is a jerk. n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:50 PM
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7. Ken Blackwell - a "black journalist" ?????????? It should be added that he is a Republican hack
Ken Blackwell was the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio, who used not putting sufficient machines in inner city areas and other types of voter suppression to prevent Bush from losing Ohio and the Presidency. He was the black male Katherine Harris of 2004!

(I've noticed that MSNBC has had him on some talk shows - Hardball is the one I am positive of.

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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 04:31 PM
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8. Yes. It seems he's suppressing that information now.
See my post #4 above.

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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:30 PM
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12. Yes. And he's responsible for Ohio's Diebold voting machines.
Those are the ones our current SOS, Jennifer Bruner-D, is trying to replace.

Don't forget Wally O'Dell, Diebold's former CEO, who announced to King George "I will deliver the State of Ohio to you." He did.

And now Blackwell is a professor at University of Dayton where I'm a Lifelong Learning Institute student. I would NEVER take one of his classes.

:puke:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:41 AM
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9. We need to re-define 'liberal'...
...NOW. I heard these same talking points yesterday on some silly TV show (Dobbs, maybe?). They are starting the 'liberal is stupid' caricature...and the use of that word is inflammatory...thanks to people like Ann Coulter and Rush, et al.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 01:15 PM
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10. Reclaim, not redefine.
My definition of liberal is _the one described_ by JFK.

I don't want "liberal" redefined, but proudly broadcast anew.

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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:07 PM
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11. I agree...
...ans stand corrected. :7
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:13 PM
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13. National Journal Inaccurate
The claim that he is the most liberal Senator comes from the rankings in The National Journal. Obama's ranking was higher last year solely because he missed more votes due to campaigning. In 2004 Kerry wound up being ranked the most liberal for the same reason. Obama's rankings in previous years, where more votes were included, did not rank him as most liberal.

It is also worth looking at the particular votes. Many of the votes which were used to rank him as liberal were based upon positions such as ethics reform.

I've responded to this claim many times in comments at Liberal Values, such as in the comments to this post:

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2857

This might not matter to some conservatives who would still oppose Obama on the issues. However, some might prefer Obama if they consider the actual areas where he is more liberal than Clinton:

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2841
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