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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 01:59 AM
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A reminder on Sec. 2718 of the Senate Bill - 85-80/15-20 Ratio aka The Golden Bullet!
From the Senate Bill:

Section 2718 "BRINGING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH CARE COVERAGE".

‘‘(1) REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE VALUE FOR PREMIUM PAYMENTS.—
‘‘(A) REQUIREMENT.—Beginning not later than January 1, 2011, a health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage (including a grandfathered health plan) shall, with respect to each plan year, provide an annual rebate to each enrollee under such coverage, on a pro rata basis, if the ratio of the amount of premium revenue expended by the issuer on costs described in paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a) to the total amount of premium revenue (excluding Federal and State taxes and licensing or regulatory fees and after accounting for payments or receipts for risk adjustment, risk corridors, and reinsurance under sections 1341, 1342, and 1343 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) for the plan year (except as provided in subparagraph (B)(ii)), is less than—
‘‘(i) with respect to a health insurance issuer offering coverage in the large group market, 85 percent, or such higher percentage as a State may by regulation determine; or
‘‘(ii) with respect to a health insurance issuer offering coverage in the small group market or in the individual market, 80 percent, or such higher percentage as a State may by regulation determine, except that the Secretary may adjust such percentage with respect to a State if the Secretary determines that the application of such 80 percent may destabilize the individual market in such State.


What it means:

The language is convulted but the result is simple,
insurance companies can no longer make money by ensuring people who don't make claims.


Under the current business model of private insurers the goal is to recruit insurees who in all likelhood won't make claims, while denying those who are certain to either because of pre-existing conditions or simply by falling sick. The bill directly outlaws those practices but under 2718 they wouldn't have the desired effect anyway. Take the hypothetical case where your entire risk pool is made up of healthy young adults whose claims are mostly limited to broken bones from skiing or biking accidents. Under 2718 unless those claims across the risk pool don't add up to 80% or 85% depending the insurer has to rebate the extra premium. At the extreme the company would have to rebate the entire premium and so go out of business having no revenue to even pay employees. Under the new model the only ways to increase profits are one, to compete on the basis of volume, or two to reduce administrative costs, which is a 180 from the current model of hastling claimants into dropping coverage or simply finding excuses to rescind coverage.

Similarly 2718 limits or eliminates the utility of simply raising premiums because it would require a parallel increase of provider payments on an 85 to 15 ratio, otherwise the rebate provision would trigger. And while collusion between provider and insurer can't be excluded the benefits would flow more than 5 to 1 to the provider while the price differential with other plans falls entirely on the insurer. The same effect occurs by eliminating a category of coverage, even if you didn't fall afoul of the Acceptable Benefits Package requirements once again you risk triggering the rebate provision.

The words are not used in the bill but the result is nearly automatic cost controls. And enforcement is relatively easy, most of the information needed to calculate MLR is readily available in SEC filings and IRS returns, you don't need HHS auditors rummaging around in the records, the SEC, the FBI and the IRS are already on the job.

This language is not in the House Bill, at least not with the same effect, and we can expect that insurance companies will start working on the usual suspects to kill the bill on final (the language is still in the bill as of 3/13/10). Which in my mind is reason to just get this bill signed to nail 2718 into law.

Because on its own it has many of the same benefits on the overall system that the Public Option was supposed to deliver.
http://www.angrybearblog.com/2009/12/medical-loss-ratio-revisited-cost-and.html

You can go to the article link and read the comments, as that might answer some of your questions
in reference to loopholes ect.....

The author also has the last comment on that blog:

"For those of us who believe that given an open playing field a Public Option can out compete for-profit insures this provision is the Golden Bullet to ultimately kill the Beast that keeps 50 million people uninsured at a societal cost far greater than that of other developed countries.

At times I worried about pointing this out lest opponents of health care reform focus on killing it, but figured that AHIP was all over it anyhow. And indeed they seem to have watered it down to nothingness over the summer only to have it come back to life. There was some reporting that their early elation about getting the individual mandate through without the PO was tempered when they found out this had crept back in the bill and gotten past the Conservadems. Which in my view is the strongest reason for the Democrats to swallow hard, pass this version of the bill before Nelson and Lieberman get instructions to find some new pretext to kill the bill. Take the money and run."



Maybe that's why Nancy is smiling so much these days!...... :shrug:
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 03:17 AM
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1. Is this the measure that Sen Bill Nelson of FL added?
Al Franken said he thought it a better cost container than the PO offered in the House bill.



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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 04:05 AM
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2. I'm not sure how it got in there......
but it is certainly there! :)

Do you have any links on what Sen. Franken said about this? I'd be curious.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 02:43 PM
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11. I read it on DU some time ago
I've been searching for it in archives but without any luck
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 09:24 AM
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3. Thanks Frenchie!
that will piss off the extremists. :)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 11:25 AM
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4. Anything good does.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 11:37 AM
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5. Thanks Frenchie for bringing to light
..Section 2718 of the Senate Bill.

No wonder the insurance companies are spending millions of dollars to kill it.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 12:00 PM
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6. but don't you know that they're really FOR it
why WOULDN'T anyone spend millions of dollars trying to kill something they're really in favor of?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 12:33 PM
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7. The insurance companies know
more about their bottom line but they do have something in common with those who say they really want it..they both want to kill the bill.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 01:52 PM
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8. Hey, Frenchie -- good to see you. Was wondering where you were.
This is a great post, because it puts the lie to Kucinich's disingenuous claim that there are NO cost controls in the bill. It also illustrates how just because the 'public option' proper is not currently in the bill, the objectives that the concept of the public option were created for are largely still there through different devices. Yet those who are stuck like a broken needle on the words/concept "public option," seem to not even want to take a breath to understand this!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 02:30 PM
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9. Hi, quiet.american......
I'm trying not to be on DU too much these days. I have a lot of work,
and plus DU is quite depressing, with all of the naysayers, most who
don't know what is in the bill, they only know what is not in it.
Hard to debate those who have bothered really reviewing anything,
because they have been with "the party of NO" on this since
single payer was ruled out, and especially since the watered down version in the House
isn't part of the deal. They are fixated with labels, and don't want to
know that this bill does more than they think, and that this bill is a beginning,
not the end.

Hard to deal with narrow views who only live in the present, and/or in the past,
and can't imagine anything other than a fucked up future. Since they attribute
Bush's agenda to Obama automatically, they are like the beaten spouse who
can never again learn to even begin to trust anyone anywhere at anytime.
They are jaded, and only time will heal their wounds.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 02:42 PM
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10. As always, well said. nt
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 09:55 PM
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12. I just came back from a visit over there
and it is truly bizarre.

You would think they would take the time to READ the information but it's Eyes Wide Shut Time.

We are FIRED UP! READY TO GO! :fistbump:

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