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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:58 PM
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"IT WASN'T THE START OF A BEAUTIFUL FRIENDSHIP"
"By all appearances, conservatives' burgeoning love affair with Eric Massa ended abruptly yesterday, a few minutes after 5 p.m. (ET).

On Monday, Glenn Beck told his radio audience of the New York congressman, "This guy is the guy we've been looking for!" I don't imagine he feels the same way now.

Beck had Massa on as a special, hour-long featured guest on his Fox News program yesterday. The host and his supporters had heard Massa spinning wild conspiracy theories involving Democratic leaders on the Hill and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, and hoped desperately that his tales would prove humiliating to Dems.

By the time the interview was over, there was plenty of humiliation, but not among Democrats.


Marc Ambinder's description of the Beck-Massa discussion summarized things nicely.

So everyone thought that Eric Massa would go on Glenn Beck's show and trash the White House and fuel conspiracy theories about Chicago-like intimidating tactics used to threaten lawmakers into voting for the health care bill.

But the first thing that Massa said was that he wasn't forced out, "I forced myself out."


Beck's night ended there. His lip curled up.

Then Massa used the platform to (a) look a little crazy (b) defuse a conspiracy theory that he helped to create and (c) lambast Beck a bit for his own overstatements.

Complicating matters, Massa conceded that he "groped a male staffer" last year, though he said it wasn't sexual.

Conservatives waiting with bated breath for the former Democratic congressman to dish the dirt had to have felt dejected. Did party leaders really force him to resign as part of a heavy-handed display of power? Well, actually no. Does Massa have any evidence to bolster his conspiracy theories or specific instances of corruption? Nope. Did Massa have anything new or damaging to say about Democratic leaders? Not really, no.

Was there any real point to this bizarre political theater? Not so much.

As the show was wrapping up, Beck seemed to realize he'd made a terrible mistake: "America, I've got to shoot straight with you. I think I've wasted your time. I think this is the first time I have wasted an hour of your time, and I apologize for that."

Sam Stein, who posted the video of the hour-long chat, described the interview as "train wreck television."

How could Beck allow this to happen? Alex Koppelman highlighted the underlying lesson from yesterday: "Beck had very little idea who Massa was or what he wanted to talk about. He simply wasn't prepared for the interview -- he just knew that the former congressman had said some things that tended to support his worldview. This is where we really see the limits of an approach like Beck's. His schtick -- former wacky morning DJ turns guy who's singlehandedly saving America by exposing what they don't want you to know -- works fine when it doesn't involve actual knowledge or reporting. Once he needs that, though, things can fall apart very quickly."

As for Massa, it didn't seem possible for his reputation to deteriorate further. And yet somehow, he managed to find a way".

—Steve Benen 8:00 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (34)
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

beck wasn't the only one who had little idea of what Massa was about..they only knew they wanted him to keep slamming Rahm and the Dems with his little conspiracy theory.


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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:26 PM
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1. Good grief. I don't know whether to lmao or feel sorry for that fool Beck
Wait, who the hell am I kidding??? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:28 PM
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2. What stood out for me, too was when Beck called citizen involvement a "commercial."
When Massa suggested that one way to end "corruption" is for people to get involved, Beck, disgusted, cut him off with a "No! Don't do a commericial!!!"

Huh?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:38 PM
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4. Massa was great in that respect..he
foiled beck.

He's a very confused individual who had no business accusing the Dems of a conspiracy which he later retracted but punking beck was priceless.

Shuster predicted that this would come back to bite the repubs in the ass who were trying to make hay of Massa.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:33 PM
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3. How sweet it is!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:22 PM
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5. "Eric Massa's Navy Files"
<snip>


"A couple years ago, I got a tip about Eric Massa. It involved his aggrieved former campaign manager, Sanford Dickert, who was involved in an ugly dispute. Dickert claimed Massa had fired him and refused to pay him for work he'd done on Massa's unsuccessful 2006 run for Congress. Massa, he said, had retaliated by issuing a series of salacious charges against him, which Dickert denied, including that he had hired, and then given alcohol to, underage staffers, and also that he had made a pass at Massa's teenage son. This seemed like a personal dispute that didn't have much news value and was, furthermore, impossible for me to adjudicate. I didn't write about it. Dickert wound up filing a libel suit against Massa, and in the court documents, which you can read here, the strange and bizarre charges are all laid out.

Then came last week's news that Massa, a 20-year Navy veteran elected to the House in 2008, was under investigation by the House Ethics Committee for allegedly groping three young male staffers. Massa sort of denied it, while claiming that the House Democratic leadership had set him up. All this made the earlier episode worth revisiting. Dickert, who had since reached a settlement with Massa, declined to comment when I reached him. (Update: I see that Massa rescinded his allegations against Dickert and issued this joint statement on Dickert's blog.) But in conversations yesterday and today with some of Massa's Navy shipmates, it became clear that the behavior toward his subordinates that got Massa into trouble in Congress is part of pattern that dates to his time in the Navy."


<more>
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/03/eric-massas-navy-files/37309/

Posting this because Massa was accusing the Dems of orchestrating his ouster from Congress at one point so as to make the repubs like beck and some others giddy with anticipation.. and it's sounding more and more like it's just not true.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:37 PM
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7. How very in...ter...est...ing. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:50 PM
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8. It's wild.. especially
when there were some who wanted to bring down Rahm and the Dems bc of Massa's accusations.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:27 PM
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9. Hello! nt
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:34 PM
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6. I'm so sick and tired of these pukes. . .
and I can't believe they're still a credible political force.

There are a lot of crazy and stupid people in this country. :(
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