CBC talks with Belinda Stronach and John Manley about Dean's speech

[madfloridian]

Run time: 07:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T5262vCeiY   Posted on YouTube: November 30, 2006 By YouTube Member: swampfoot Views on YouTube: 10570   Posted on DU: December 01, 2006 By DU Member: madfloridian Views on DU: 1256

 
to the Liberal Party's Convention in Montreal. Nothing really stands out, pro or con, mostly pretty decent.

But I noticed the same thing I hear here in our country...that centrism won. It is a theme through the interviews. The middle, centrist...won.

My fear is that when they say that, they are not saying the real center. They are speaking of that place well to the right of center where they have taken us and intend us to stay. Sounded just like the lectures we hear from our media here.

And didn't Stronach's hair used to be blonder than that in the interview?

[IntravenousDemilo]

1. Ah, good, you fixed the "Paul" Manley thing already.

BTW, our political centre is somewhat to the left of the US centre. There are issues in which neocon interim prime minister Stephen Harper is actually to the left of Hillary Clinton, and the Democrats have a lot in common with our Conservatives. While we consider our Liberal party to be centrist, from an American perspective it seems like socialism. There's a substantially larger range of political thought in Canada, at least among the major parties. Our spectrum runs from red-orange (NDP and BQ) through yellowish green (Liberal), right through to Conservative (blue). In contrast, the Democratic party is somewhere around greenish blue, while the Republicans are bluish purple (verging onto ultraviolet). Not a great deal of difference, in other words, and most of the spectrum seems to be considered fringe by the majority of American voters.

Still, the Democratic party is the lesser evil, so Canadians generally like you better. And most of us absolutely despise your president. Hell, Bush had a 15 per cent approval rating in Canada two years ago and it's got even smaller since then.

[madfloridian]

2. Thanks, I had just caught it.

Thanks for the explanations. I actually watched parts of the convention online and enjoyed it.

I am not happy with where our Democrats have been the last few years on the left right spectrum. I never really noticed because of our ineffective media, until Iraq.

It hit so many of us then, even with the drumbeating warmongering media we had....we here online knew it was a wrong war. No one listened.

I learned about our party then, and I stayed on board to change it.

I hope now that we control Congress, at least the House pretty firmly...that we won't become wimpy.

I saw the dumbing down of America starting when I was teaching, before I retired. It was obvious. A dumbed down electorate is easier to manage.

:hi:

[caledesi]

3. Howard Dean is the best. Pack your bags Karl Rove, the

real genius has arrived!

[Ediacara]

4. I keep hearing about Dean's speech, is it on the youtube yet?

The remarks may or may not have been interesting. I wasn't paying attention. All I could focus my attention on was the obscenely loud music in the background. Can't the CBC afford a sound-booth?

[madfloridian]

5. Here's the whole speech, part of it, and the two parts at You Tube.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/717

The Part 1 and 2 at You Tube are in a post further down. Best quality is the CTV one.

That music was nervewracking, you are right. I saw it another site, I guess the CBC one, and it did not seem quite so loud.

[Ediacara]

6. Thanks so much for the links!