If you want to discriminate against gays, you are probably gay

[drexel dave]

Run time: 07:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KqfkiE-sfc   Posted on YouTube: November 23, 2007 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: December 08, 2007 By DU Member: drexel dave Views on DU: 571

 
An anti-gay discrimination ordinance recently went into effect in my town, and who of all people were against it? The Interfaith Ministerial Association. Damn Them!

Enjoy my first attempt at video blogging.

[Smarmie Doofus]

1. Well intentioned, but I disagree with the premise.

Now and then there's a bizarre case of a self-hating homo leading the charge against GLBT rights and protections.

But in the VAST majority of cases theses anti discrimination bills fail due to the dumb-as-dishwater ignorance of the straight majority and their determination to REMAIN dumb as dishwater.

It's much more a confluence of 1. mental inertia, 2. (hetero) sexual narcissism ( i.e. the inablility of people to identify with anyone who isn't exactly like themselves) and ,3. the religious and political opportunism that feeds off # 1 and #2.

Result: Stampede!

Gay people ( in or out) have little to do with it. Other than getting to play the role of trampled victim and scapegoat.

Lucky us.

[drexel dave]

2. in this case

it was a group of inner-city African-American church ministers leading the charge. The inner-city African American religious community is nowhere to be gay: it's a very homophobic cultural environment that attempts to manifest itself politically. And honestly, I do think that a lot of these minsters are working on the down low.

Simultaneously, I know a lot of these ministers are corrupt as hell. One down the street from my good friend's house ran all of the crack (whores and dealing) in his neighborhood.

The old-line fears progressivism because it threatens their grip on power, and threatens reactionary machismo rooted in a fear of an inner-homo.

I think there's truth in every facet related to the subject.

Thanks for the very thoughtful response.

[whirlygigspin]

3. from Frederick Douglass

always the same, 'religion' is always the last refuge of the oppressor


"The church in America is, beyond all question, the chief refuge of slavery. When we attack it in the state, it runs into the street, to the mob; when we attack it in the mob, it flies to the church; and, sir, it is a melancholy fact, that it finds a better, safer, and more secure protection from the shafts of abolitionism within the sacred enclosure of the Christian temple than from any other quarter whatever. Slavery finds no champions so bold, brave, and uncompromising as the ministers of religion. These men come forth, clad in all the sanctity of the pastoral office, and enforce slavery with the Bible in their hands, and under the awful name of the Everlasting God. We there find them preaching sermon after sermon in support of the system of slavery as an institution consistent with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We have commentary after commentary attempting to wrest the sacred pages of the Bible into a justification of the iniquitous system. And, sir, this may explain to you what might otherwise appear unaccountable in regard to the conduct and proceedings of American abolitionists. I am very desirous of saying a word or two on this point, upon which there has been much misrepresentation. I say, the fact that slavery takes refuge in the churches of the United States will explain to you another fact, which is, that the opponents of slavery in America are almost universally branded there -- and, I am sorry to say, to some extent in this country also -- as infidels. Why is this?

--Frederick Douglass prepared for his departure. In London, on March 30, his friends tendered him a public farewell attended by 1,400 persons "of great respectability." Deeply moved, the honored guest spoke regretfully of leaving the country.... 19

AT London Tavern, London, England, March 30, 1847


http://negroartist.com/writings/Frederick%20Douglass%20Selected%20Speeches%20and%20Writings.htm





*only Dennis Kucinich & Joe Biden support marriage rights for all people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6iYliBayh4