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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:11 PM
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Depleted uranium toxic and making people sick
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RADIOACTIVE AMMUNITION FIRED IN THE MIDDLE EAST MAY CLAIM MORE LIVES THAN HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI
Based on this article posted by a DUER babylonsister
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/28830

By Sherwood Ross

By firing radioactive ammunition, the U.S., U.K., and Israel may have triggered a nuclear holocaust in the Middle East that, over time, will prove deadlier than the U.S. atomic bombing of Japan.

So much ammunition containing depleted uranium(DU) has been fired, asserts nuclear authority Leuren Moret, “The genetic future of the Iraqi people for the most part, is destroyed.”

“More than ten times the amount of radiation released during atmospheric testing (of nuclear bombs) has been released from depleted uranium weaponry since 1991,” Moret writes, including radioactive ammunition fired by Israeli troops in Palestine.

Moret is an independent U.S. scientist formerly employed for five years at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and also at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, both of California.

Adds Arthur Bernklau, of Veterans For Constitutional Law, “The long-term effect of DU is a virtual death sentence. Iraq is a toxic wasteland. Anyone who is there stands a good chance of coming down with cancer and leukemia. In Iraq, the birth rate of mutations is totally out of control.”
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:11 PM
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1. oh but it gets worse..
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=134170&Disp=17&Trace=on


The Department of Defense (DoD) and Veterans Administration (VA) have been hiding or “cooking” disability statistics since 1991 in order to stonewall ailing veterans and to confuse the public. These policies, during both Democratic and Republican administrations, account for the wildly varying statistics and estimates of veterans suffering from radioactive poisoning.
http://www.notinkansas.us/du_4.html


"Our men and women of the New York State National Guard have just spent six months taking radioactive showers and washing small open wounds in a depleted uranium They’ve eaten over 500 meals with food, plates, and silverware washed with hot water, in two senses of the word. . . without knowing it."
http://www.selvesandothers.org/article14036.html
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:19 PM
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2. Ugly fallout to be sure
And while I don't want to make light of this, one sentence in that quote shook me for a moment! I read it and my reflex was: OH NO! I'm doomed! :nuke:

That line reads.... "The long-term effect of DU is a virtual death sentence." :wow:!!! Say it isn't so! :argh:
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:30 PM
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3. That's pretty disgusting.
IMPEACH THE BASTARDS ALREADY!!
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Gregory Purcell Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 06:34 PM
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4. DU is a War Crime
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 07:13 PM
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5. wow...
I'm sickened...If this is true, this would place the United States, the U.K, and Israel on the same war-crime massacre level as Stalin and Mao.

We are no better...I don't care how much democracy or enlightened values we have back at home (and those are sketchy at best)...if we allowed DU to be used on millions of innocent Middle Easterners, we are no better.

Our leaders MUST be brought to an international court and face charges.
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:05 PM
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6. Stop posting this crap. There is no real scientific evidance of this being true. None. nt
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 11:56 PM
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8. Uranium’s Effect On DNA Established

Uranium’s Effect On DNA Established

The use of depleted uranium in munitions and weaponry is likely to come under intense scrutiny now that new research that found that uranium can bind to human DNA. The finding will likely have far-reaching implications for returned soldiers, civilians living in what were once war-zones and people who might live near uranium mines or processing facilities.

Uranium - when manifested as a radioactive metal - has profound and debilitating effects on human DNA. These radioactive effects have been well understood for decades, but there has been considerable debate and little agreement concerning the possible health risks associated with low-grade uranium ore (yellowcake) and depleted uranium.

Now however, Northern Arizona University biochemist Diane Stearns has established that when cells are exposed to uranium, the uranium binds to DNA and the cells acquire mutations, triggering a whole slew of protein replication errors, some of which can lead to various cancers. Stearns' research, published in the journals Mutagenesis and Molecular Carcinogenesis, confirms what many have suspected for some time - that uranium can damage DNA as a heavy metal, independently of its radioactive properties. "Essentially, if you get a heavy metal stuck on DNA, you can get a mutation," Stearns explained. While other heavy metals are known to bind to DNA, Stearns and her team were the first to identify this characteristic with uranium.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20060307010324data_trunc_sys.shtml




The Health Effect of DU Weapons in Iraq
By Thomas Fasy MD PhD


Dr. Fasy is an Associate Clinical Professor of Pathology at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City. He has longstanding interests in carcinogenesis and environmental toxicology. In the past two years, he has lectured at conferences and university campuses on the toxic effects of inhaling uranium oxide dusts derived from depleted uranium weapons.


SNIP
Uranium is radioactive and it is a toxic heavy metal. Inside the body, uranium exists as uranyl ions. Much of the toxicity of uranium is chemically mediated, in addition to the effects mediated by radiation.

SNIP

By the early 1900s, uranium was well recognized to be a kidney toxin. By the mid-1940s, uranium was known to be a neurotoxin. By the early 1970s, uranium was recognized to be a carcinogen based on mortality studies of uranium workers and on experiments with dogs and monkeys. The first evidence that uranyl ions bind to DNA was reported in 1949 and by the early 1990s, uranium was shown to be a mutagen. Also, in the early 1990s, uranium was shown to be a teratogen, that is, an inducer of birth defects. The toxic effects of uranium on the kidney and on the nervous system typically occur within days of exposure and radiation probably plays little or no role in mediating these effects. In contrast, the carcinogenic effects of uranium have a delayed onset. The teratogenic effects of uranium might be due to exposure of one parent prior to conception as well as to exposure of the mother to uranium early in pregnancy.

Now let us briefly consider the routes of exposure to uranium. In the context of the dust particles derived from depleted uranium weapons, this means exposure to uranium oxides. By far the most dangerous route of exposure to uranium oxides is the inhalational or respiratory route. Absorption of uranium oxides through the gastrointestinal tract, the skin and the conjunctivae is possible but quite limited.

Following impact with hard targets, uranium metal undergoes combustion releasing large quantities of very small uranium oxide dust particles into the environment.

These dust particles derived from depleted uranium weapons are drastically different from the natural uranium that is normally present in rocks and soil.

Soil particles contain uranium at very low concentrations, typically less than 5 parts per million; the vast majority of these soil particles, however, are too large to be inhaled deep into the lungs. In contrast, the dust particles derived from depleted uranium weapons contain very high concentrations of uranium, typically more than 500.000 parts per million; moreover, most of the D.U. dust particles are sufficiently small to be inhaled deep into the lungs. Thus, compared to the uranium naturally present in the environment, D.U. dust contains uranium in a form that is vastly more bio-available and more readily internalized.

Uranyl ions bind to DNA; they bind in the minor groove of DNA. While bound to DNA, uranyl ions are chemically reactive and can give rise to free radicals which may damage DNA. Chemically mediated DNA damage of this type may contribute to the ability of uranium to induce cancers.

I would now like to present some epidemiologic data from the Basra governate in the south of Iraq. In February 1991, more than 300 tons (possibly much more than 300 tons) of D.U. weapons were used in South of Iraq. After 5-6 year latent periods, increases in childhood cancers and birth defects were documented in the Basra governate. The most recent data indicate a four fold increase in pediatric malignancies and a seven fold increase in congenital malformations compared to 1990, the year preceeding the war.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4124449
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:26 PM
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10. More Proof
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10477996&pnum=2

"DU burns, it releases particulates that can be breathed in, and it doesn't go away," he says. " Now we know that we can still find measurable levels of DU among the people of Colonie, we need a much bigger study to establish whether they have suffered disproportionate ill-effects such as cancers as a consequence. If they have, it would raise a serious ethical challenge to the use of these weapons during war. Arguably it could constitute a war crime."

The NL plant on Central Avenue, Colonie's main artery, opened in 1958 and became one of the Pentagon's main suppliers. DU, the material left in huge quantities by the process of refining enriched uranium for bombs and nuclear reactors, is extremely dense. A pointed rod fired at high velocity will penetrate not only armour but several metres of concrete. In 1979 a whistleblower from inside the plant told the local health department that it was releasing large amounts of DU from its 16 m chimney, which was not properly filtered. The state government carried out atmospheric tests and in 1981 ordered that main production cease. The factory shut three years later.
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There finding DU in people 30 years later

Our military our killing our own men
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:20 PM
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7. And the problem with DU as well as Agent Orange is that it passes death through generations...
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 09:21 PM by calipendence
through inherited damaged DNA... That is why there is still so many birth defects in Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam now too where we used Agent Orange caused by dioxin poisoning. It also warped their DNA so that when they have kids, they pass along the damaged goods to their kids, that is, if the newborns live.

That's what makes weapons like this so much more horrible than what was used in past wars. This isn't something that just "goes away" after we stop the bombing, etc. It continues to linger for generations, and we probably don't really know the full effect and how it might be "contained".
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Fool_Me_Once Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 02:29 AM
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9. I wonder if they've been bombing us here..
with this crap at the local bombing ranges? We have at least 4 known Bombing ranges in our local area..
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 02:24 PM
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11. You can be sure of it
Remember the Phalanx anti-missile gun? The one that the U.S.S. Stark forgot to have turned on when in range of Iraqi missiles? That one uses DU projectiles, as do all "advanced" weapons systems where they want a bigger bang from the projectile.

If they were doing field tests of advanced weapons systems, chances are they were littering the range with LOTS of DU, and in addition, volatilizing a lot of it. Uranium is one of several metals that are pyphoric, that is, they will ignite in air, similar to magnesium that is used in flash bulbs. Once the DU projectile explodes and sends shards of hot uranium metal flying, these shards can then ignite and spall off copious quantities of uranium oxide before they hit their target.

Want to fix the problem? Plant some jimson weed, harvest it and bury it in a DEEP landfill.

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 06:42 PM
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12. In Hawaii on Big Island YES the army has admitted it
http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/15200/Army_forced_to_admit_depleted_uranium_use_in_Hawaii

Experts from a government contractor confirmed the presence of depleted uranium at Pohakuloa firing range on Big Island

A military contractor confirmed the presence of depleted uranium at the U.S. Army’s Pohakuloa Training Area on the Big Island, the Army said.

The Army has said it did not use depleted uranium at the training range. Earlier state tests found radiation levels in the air near the Pohakuloa training range to be “normal.”

The Army last year said it also found depleted uranium at an Oahu post, Schofield Barracks, in remnants of training rounds used in the 1960s. That announcement came after years of Army denials it used depleted uranium in the islands.

The Army said in a news release Monday it currently does not use depleted uranium in training munitions.

but

The locals used Geiger Counters and saw huge swings near the training facilities
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