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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:37 PM
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Ron Paul talks about Dennis Kucinich
 
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:05 PM
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1. K & R!
:thumbsup:
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:17 PM
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2. Interesting
K&R!
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:23 PM
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3. K&R!
Even Paul knows Kucinich is the best choice we have in the dem party! Who'da thunk it? :patriot:
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 05:08 AM
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8. Ron Paul is not stupid, unfortunately a majority of
Americans are. If not exactly stupid, they are IMO, mostly uncaring and easily lead by the MSM.
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Islander Expat Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 06:51 AM
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10. Well, more like the only choice now that Gravel is gone
e0m
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Islander Expat Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:23 PM
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4. Very interesting
K&R&K&R
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2 Much Tribulation Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:55 PM
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5. The enlightenment of Chuck Hagel (ES&S computerized voting vendor connected) nt
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:51 AM
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6. Ron Paul likes Kucinich - the only candidate who dares mention IMPEACHMENT . . .

And, interestingly, the only other politician he mentioned in answering this video question was another that has dared to talk about impeachment (Chuck Hagel)

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/06/hagel-impeachment/

http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/?p=954



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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 01:42 AM
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7. Calls Kucinich "Honest" with emphasis. Kucinich is the only real change.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:34 AM
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15. K&R if I could.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 06:28 AM
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9. Notes his consistency on war and war funding,
while noting Democrats' and Republicans' flip-flopping positions between Kosovo and Iraq.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:47 AM
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11. Kick & Nominated
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:54 AM
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12. K&R for Real candidates
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:16 AM
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13. Awesome !! That just made my day
Kucinich and Paul are the two true non-Imperialist's running.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:31 AM
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14. Ron Paul is a plague on economic liberalism the same as BushCo. if not worse.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:52 AM
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16. A plague on corporate liberalism is more like it! n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:40 PM
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20. Social security and universal health care is "corporate liberalism"?
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:30 PM
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29. Abolishing the FED.
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 07:40 PM by ozone_man
Ending corporate and military industrial complex welfare.

Since he wrote this in 2002, the dollar has lost about 40% of it's worth. To prop up Wall Street. We are becoming a 3rd world country. The economy and war is every bit as important as social issues.


Congressman Ron Paul
U.S. House of Representatives
September 10, 2002

ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE

Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce legislation to restore financial stability to America's economy by abolishing the Federal Reserve. I also ask unanimous consent to insert the attached article by Lew Rockwell, president of the Ludwig Von Mises Institute, which explains the benefits of abolishing the Fed and restoring the gold standard, into the record.

Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, middle and working-class Americans have been victimized by a boom-and-bust monetary policy. In addition, most Americans have suffered a steadily eroding purchasing power because of the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. This represents a real, if hidden, tax imposed on the American people.

From the Great Depression, to the stagflation of the seventies, to the burst of the dotcom bubble last year, every economic downturn suffered by the country over the last 80 years can be traced to Federal Reserve policy. The Fed has followed a consistent policy of flooding the economy with easy money, leading to a misallocation of resources and an artificial "boom" followed by a recession or depression when the Fed-created bubble bursts.

With a stable currency, American exporters will no longer be held hostage to an erratic monetary policy. Stabilizing the currency will also give Americans new incentives to save as they will no longer have to fear inflation eroding their savings. Those members concerned about increasing America's exports or the low rate of savings should be enthusiastic supporters of this legislation.

Though the Federal Reserve policy harms the average American, it benefits those in a position to take advantage of the cycles in monetary policy. The main beneficiaries are those who receive access to artificially inflated money and/or credit before the inflationary effects of the policy impact the entire economy. Federal Reserve policies also benefit big spending politicians who use the inflated currency created by the Fed to hide the true costs of the welfare-warfare state. It is time for Congress to put the interests of the American people ahead of the special interests and their own appetite for big government.

Abolishing the Federal Reserve will allow Congress to reassert its constitutional authority over monetary policy. The United States Constitution grants to Congress the authority to coin money and regulate the value of the currency. The Constitution does not give Congress the authority to delegate control over monetary policy to a central bank. Furthermore, the Constitution certainly does not empower the federal government to erode the American standard of living via an inflationary monetary policy.

In fact, Congress' constitutional mandate regarding monetary policy should only permit currency backed by stable commodities such as silver and gold to be used as legal tender. Therefore, abolishing the Federal Reserve and returning to a constitutional system will enable America to return to the type of monetary system envisioned by our nation's founders: one where the value of money is consistent because it is tied to a commodity such as gold. Such a monetary system is the basis of a true free-market economy.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to stand up for working Americans by putting an end to the manipulation of the money supply which erodes Americans' standard of living, enlarges big government, and enriches well-connected elites, by cosponsoring my legislation to abolish the Federal Reserve.


http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr091002b.htm

I think with Ron Paul, you have to give credit for some of the good positions he has. I don't agree on his social positions, but with monetary policy and the military industrial complex, he's right on target.

On edit: Five years ago this statement (from above) was made, but it could just as well have been made today as we're starting to see the FED bubble implode. Or is it the dollar exploding?


The Fed has followed a consistent policy of flooding the economy with easy money, leading to a misallocation of resources and an artificial "boom" followed by a recession or depression when the Fed-created bubble bursts.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:27 AM
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39. Corporate Liberalism is the good kind...
You know, restrictions on business, trust-busting. The whole hands off approach doesn't work if the companies are colluding to fix prices and product qualities.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:37 PM
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17. Sorry, but that's not a good endorsement IMO..
Ron Paul is not the kind of change we need. He's a racist Libertarian nutbag, and the only people I know supporting him are right wing fundamentalists who previously supported Bush and Cheney. He's no hero in my book.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 01:51 PM
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18. only people you know?
Maybe you should get out more?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 02:32 PM
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19. Yeah..
I live very sheltered life...:eyes:
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 05:33 PM
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23. This is the first charge of racism leveled against Mr. Paul that I have read...
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 05:34 PM by mikelewis
Libertarian and nutbag; I've heard and agree with only one of them... racist is a new one. I don't know the man very well but what little I've seen has been positive IMO. He seems honest and sincere and thus completely unelectable... so I haven't delved into his past. Do you have any evidence of his racism or is this just a belief you hold?
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:28 PM
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27. just Google "Ron Paul" and racist
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 07:29 PM by sellitman
More than enough pages will pop up on his sorid past. If you are a
liberal then this turd deserves nothing.but scorn.
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RantingWacko Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:19 PM
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34. Proof of Ron Paul's racism
Here's a spattering of quotes from Paul's personal newsletter, FreedomWatch, as reported by The Houston Chronicle on May 23, 1996


"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e., support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."

"Politically sensible blacks are outnumbered as decent people... I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."

"By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism."


Paul was also the only person in all of Congress to vote against giving Rosa Parks a Congressional Medal of Honor. Make of that what you will!

Oh, and as for the story that Paul never said those things and that all of those views were written by a disgruntled employee...

... even if that WAS true, would you really want to put a man who can't manage his own staff and routinely allows statements to be made to the press without proofreading the damn things first in The White House? I think not...

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johnp Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:50 PM
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21. And this guy is a Republican how
Sounds more like a Progressive than a Republican
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:46 PM
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22. I didn't know he and DK were good friends, but it doesn't
surprise me.

Interesting. :)
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 05:47 PM
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24. "Conviction politicians" don't have a lot of peers in Washington. . . . .

The pool of potential friends for an honest man is slim indeed.


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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 06:35 PM
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25. People at DU and in this country can learn from Ron Paul
There's many people that believe the party is more important than the country, or a singular issue is more important than the big picture. Paul and Kucinich are political opposites. Paul shows that good people for this country are always more important than pet issues.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:29 PM
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28. Get real....Paul is a fucking republican and has always
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 07:32 PM by GreenTea
completely embraced republican ideology....anyone with half a brain knows republican ideology is fucked, a party build for the corporate & wealthy elitist. It's government helping corporations & the wealthy with subsidies, (corporate welfare) tax breaks and deregulation, corporate interest over helping the people, the workers and the environment...I can proudly say I NEVER voted for any republican ever...

It's disgusting when people vote a personality they see on TV - not the man's ideology...because that ideology is indeed the man. It's what the man has base his entire life on, and when push comes to shove, Paul will always vote his party's ideology. Paul is a fucking republican and republican ideology is selfish & elitist, based on greed and corporations over people, a truly fucked ideology...

Just more spin for the ignorant and the gullible, more bullshit about Paul...so people will believe there are actually good republicans to vote for... Paul is a fucking republican, and has promoted republican ideology throughout his whole life...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:55 PM
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31. I'm not talking about ideology at all.
In fact, I'm talking about the opposite of that. Paul can see the good in people regardless of party. You obviously are the kind of person I was referring to in my OP.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:17 PM
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26. Any other Firefox-user having trouble with YouTube?
I was watching this video, in full screen, and everything was fine. Afterwards, I wanted to watch another video, and all of a sudden I can't get full screen anymore! I can make the screen smaller, but not bigger. It sucks. Anybody have a word of advice?
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:24 PM
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35. When in doot, re-boot!!
When in doubt, reboot your computer.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:03 AM
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37. Doesn't work. But YouTube send me an e-mail saying there was a problem with the site.
Hope it gets fixed soon, so I can see all Democrats full-screen again. ;)
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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:47 PM
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30. Yahoo News: "The Ron Paul revolution."
I just put together a long post about why he is so popular (I'm sure it's all alienated white males :eyes: ), but nuked it so as not to get tombstoned. I don't think it's just war haters, either, although Will Pitt's post in the last week or two about how even Democrats basically understand they have to support the war machine or else our economy collapses goes to the heart of some of Paul's popularity.

Instead, I'll just post what was on the front page of Yahoo News.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/theronpaulrevolution
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:12 PM
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32. "alienated white males"
maybe not, I haven't seen the actual poll results referred to but the headline I saw somewhere else led to this posting on Dr Paul's site.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/15/ron-paul-is-highest-polling-republican-among-black-voters/

October 24, 2007

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA--Public opinion service Rasmussen Reports recently released data indicating that Texas congressman Ron Paul is the top Republican presidential candidate among African-American voters.

1200 individuals were polled and asked if they preferred Ron Paul to Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. 33 percent of Black voters chose Congressman Paul over Senator Clinton and 31 percent over Senator Obama. Rasmussen Reports polled voters on their preference for the other GOP contenders over Clinton and Obama, and all polled lower than Congressman Paul. John McCain was preferred over Clinton and Obama by 24 and 16 percent, and Mitt Romney by 20 and 27 percent, respectively. Rudy Giuliani was only preferred to Clinton by 15 percent, and to Obama by 17 percent.

Congressman Paul’s support among African-Americans is much higher than what Republicans have received in recent presidential elections. CNN’s 2004 presidential election exit polls show that Democrat John Kerry was preferred over George Bush by 88 percent.

The RealClearPolitics Insider Advantage Poll from early October also indicated that Dr. Paul was the leading Republican candidate among Black voters in key primary state, New Hampshire.

“Dr. Paul is the candidate who brings Americans together,” said Paul campaign manager Lew Moore. “His unifying message of freedom, peace, and prosperity is drawing supporters of all backgrounds back into the Republican party.”

Rasmussen Reports conducted preference polls for Ron Paul between October 12 and 14. Preference polls for Rudy Giuliani were conducted October 8 through 9 and 15 through 16, and for Mitt Romney and John McCain between October 10 and 11 and 17 through 18.


Maybe there is more here than meets the eye at first glance.
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RantingWacko Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:04 PM
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33. Sorry, but as someone who lived in Paul's district...
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 11:04 PM by RantingWacko
... I cannot say one nice thing about the man. And I am disturbed that there's a single person out there who can consider themself a thinking liberal and not be disturbed that Paul is being taken seriously by anyone as a candidate.

Just to run down my own personal laundry-list... and I'll admit that some of these are a might personal and have more to do with the sort of people Paul attracts than the man himself.

1. He rallied against FEMA as an organization... back in 1998 while his district was going through some of the worst flooding in Texas history.

2. While he boasts on his own website about being a pioneer in writing and submitting term-limit legislation for Congressman, he has refused to practice what he preaches and has become a career Congressman.

3. I chanced to run into one of his supporters at a concert recently and can you guess what Ron's biggest concern apparently is? Not improving the quality of education. Not improving the quality of health-care. Not even putting more police on the streets and ensuring our police, fire and EMTs have the best equipment money can buy. No, apparently the biggest problem our country is facing is the fact that we aren't using the gold standard! Seriously...

4. His supporters called a female associate of mine a whore while we were walking down the street in Sundance Square, not causing them any trouble at all. We didn't even get that kind of treatement from the fundies up the road shouting fire and brimstone at all the would-be partiers.

5. The man is either a racist or an incompetent. See my above post for the exact quotes and the "defense" I was given by one Paul supporter.

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Plisko Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:41 AM
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36. Could he really do all the bad stuff they say?
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 02:50 AM by Plisko
Wouldn't congress need to go along with a lot of the stuff people are saying Ron Paul wants to do? He can't just wave his hand and abolish all this stuff can he?

It seems to me that if I was forced to have one of the Republican contenders in the white house he would be my choice. Wouldn't it be better to have a President that values the constitution above all and fails to get some bad ideas through congress rather than one who doesn't try to do this radical stuff but takes all the unconstitutional gifts that congress has already given up and creates a police state?

Is anybody even listening to these other Republicans?
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RantingWacko Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:06 AM
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38. No...
Paul wouldn't have a chance in Hell of getting any of his agenda pushed through if by some one-in-a-million chance he ever got into The White House.

But It wouldn't matter because he'd be hell-bent on making sure nobody else could get anything done either. Give Ron Paul veto power and you couldn't so much as pass a resolution that air is good without him declaring it unconstitutional.
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Plisko Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:16 AM
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40. So the answer is. .
One of the other Republicans is a safer bet? Which one?
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