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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 03:34 PM
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Noam Chomsky to RT: Bush torturer, Obama just kills
 
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Pinning its hopes on the sole support of the US, Israel risks a collapse if it is ever withdrawn - much like apartheid-era South Africa, prominent scholar Professor Noam Chomsky warns. ­He recalls how South Africans felt safe to ignore a UN embargo and corporations pulling out of their country throughout the 1980s, as long as the Reagan administration continued to support them. As soon as the US withdrew its support, the apartheid regime collapsed. "For 35 years, the US and Israel have been rejecting a political settlement that is supported virtually by the entire world. A couple of months ago, there was a meeting of the oligarchs -- people who pretty much run the economy ," Chomsky says, "and they warned the government that it better accept something like this resolution, because otherwise, Israel will be, as they put it, South Africanized: even more isolated, with boycotts, refusal to load ships, and their economy will collapse."
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 03:55 PM
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1. Is Noam Chomsky comparing Israel to S. Africa? That's quite a stretch. (nt)
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 04:18 PM
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3. There is a big difference.
Tel Aviv and Cape Town are 4,678 miles apart for one thing. Oh, and the brown skinned majority is a little darker in South Africa.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 07:42 PM
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9. So the blacks were able to vote and hold office in S Africa?
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 11:18 PM
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11. Voting rights was not the defining characteristic of Apartheid
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 08:15 AM
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12. You didn't answer the question. Nice dodge. (nt)
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 04:20 PM
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4. not really.
Not in the next few years when the number of non-Jewish Palestinians will be more than the number of Jewish Israelites. This is nothing new.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 07:46 PM
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10. Can the Palestinians vote and hold office?
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 04:54 PM
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7. (Media Matters) in re. to Israel,Obama wins the prize for most sycophantic US president in history
M.J. Rosenberg, journalist and Senior Foreign Policy Fellow at Media Matters Action Network, http://mediamattersaction.org/ discusses his two recent articles “If Tom Friedman can say it, you can too” http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/09/2011921103657427605.html about how criticism of the Israel lobby has gone mainstream and “On Israel & Palestine, Barack Obama Is Rick Perry;” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/obama-palestine-bid_b_977929.html the large percentage of Israelis who are OK with a Palestinian state, even though their government vehemently opposes one; why, when it comes to Israel, Obama wins the prize for most sycophantic US President in history; AIPAC’s excellent return on investment for its campaign contributions and lobbying efforts; and why Democrats are even more slavishly devoted to the Likud party line than Republicans.

http://dissentradio.com/radio/11_09_26_rosenberg.mp3 (Right click, save as)

M.J. Rosenberg is Senior Foreign Policy Fellow at Media Matters Action Network. Previously, he worked on Capitol Hill for various Democratic members of the House and Senate for 15 years. He was also a Clinton political appointee at USAID. In the early 1980s, he was editor of AIPACs weekly newsletter Near East Report. From 1998-2009, he was director of policy at Israel Policy Forum.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 04:01 PM
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2. Extra-judicial executions are acceptable if a Democrat orders them. This guy is a pinko.
I'll bet he's got a shortwave radio and a one-time code book hidden in a hollow nickel.

PB
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 04:22 PM
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5. No he's not.
If you listen to what he says, and go look it up, you will find that Chomsky knows exactly what he is talking about.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 04:45 PM
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6. Sorry, I should apologize- I guess my sarcasm was bit too much on the dry side.
I watched the video carefully and I agree with Chomsky's observations, entirely. Not always the case. But in this case, definitely. I'm not expecting some sort of Liberal Utopia but, dammit, with a Democratic President continuing some of Bush's worst policies it strikes me that the President could be doing more to uphold the rule of Law and the checks and balances in The Constitution.

PB
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 05:00 PM
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8. K&R
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